Screen goes black once and while

[jackson]

Hey guys have a quick question have a T5 with a loader ver:l 1.00.00 hardware ver : ht_V20 1.00.00 Application ver 1.02.00

Every once and a while the screen goes black for 3-4 seconds then comes back my question is do you think this is a SW problem a over heating problem?
And another question if it is a SW problem what is the most stable (BEST) to run on the T5?
ANNNND one more if I upgrade the software will I have to re enter the server info as I will have to go look for that info as im on a new computer and the old one that I had all my info etc on has died
Thanking you in advance
Jackson

[maird57]

Hey guys have a quick question have a T5 with a loader ver:l 1.00.00 hardware ver : ht_V20 1.00.00 Application ver 1.02.00

Every once and a while the screen goes black for 3-4 seconds then comes back my question is do you think this is a SW problem a over heating problem?
And another question if it is a SW problem what is the most stable (BEST) to run on the T5?
ANNNND one more if I upgrade the software will I have to re enter the server info as I will have to go look for that info as im on a new computer and the old one that I had all my info etc on has died
Thanking you in advance
Jackson

My issue was a bad power cable

[The Noof]

Hey guys have a quick question have a T5 with a loader ver:l 1.00.00 hardware ver : ht_V20 1.00.00 Application ver 1.02.00

Every once and a while the screen goes black for 3-4 seconds then comes back my question is do you think this is a SW problem a over heating problem?
And another question if it is a SW problem what is the most stable (BEST) to run on the T5?
ANNNND one more if I upgrade the software will I have to re enter the server info as I will have to go look for that info as im on a new computer and the old one that I had all my info etc on has died
Thanking you in advance
Jackson

I have a T5 that behaves the same way, but only on 1 of 3 tv's I have.It only does it on my panasonic, not on the 2 LG's.If possible, can you try it on another tv in your house?In my case, Tried all the ususal:module,power supply hdmi cable,different tv inputs,ect, but it was always the same on the Panasonic...2 second blackouts several times an hour.I think it's an hdmi handshake issue between the T5 & the Panasonic.Worth a try if you can.As per software, the 0106 is the latest & best.Use it.You won't lose your server data on the software upgrade, but you will if you install the factory bin.

[jackson]

I turned off cec on the TV was told to try and so far no black screen flashes
Have a fan I will try tomorrow for cooling
thanks for the fast response
Jackson

[auggie]

I turned off cec on the TV was told to try and so far no black screen flashes
Have a fan I will try tomorrow for cooling
thanks for the fast response
Jackson

For My T5 I have a set of these:hxxps://www.amazon.ca/AC-Infinity-MULTIFAN-Receiver-Playstation/dp/B00IJ2J2K0/ref=sr_1_6?crid=1FJC8CFLA4KFC&keywords=usb+fan&qid=1673728078&sprefix=usb+fan%2Caps%2C269&sr=8-6

Keeps my Box Nice & Cool no Heat Issues, can place them on top of box Blowing/sucking air in/out.

[intelpenny4]

i also have a fan installed and use a 5amp 12 volt power supply and have the handshaking feature turn off on the hdmi port and never have a problem. the T5 will live to see another day and many more

[alfred67]

i also have a fan installed and use a 5amp 12 volt power supply and have the handshaking feature turn off on the hdmi port and never have a problem. the T5 will live to see another day and many more

How do you turn off the handshaking feature?

[The Noof]

How do you turn off the handshaking feature?

It is a function of the tv or home theater receiver, or both.It will be labelled CEC function

[auggie]

That's one of the Reasons I shy away from Panasonic & Sony Equipment, Both Company's tend to input
their own signature/software into their Stuff, basically forcing you to use their equipment to be compatible
with each Other etc.

[capthook]

All these years I thought it was my receiver and low and behold that fixed my problem. Thank you

[intelpenny4]

what the noof said CEC feature. just look for something that says that or look it up in your manual for your tv.

[dishuser]

on samsungs it's called anynet+

[jets]

Anyone know what its call in a Sharp Aquos TV? Or is it just CEC, I'm not at TV to check right now.

[The Noof]

Anyone know what its call in a Sharp Aquos TV? Or is it just CEC, I'm not at TV to check right now.

Cut'n paste:
Where is CEC setting on Sharp Aquos TV?
Press the Menu button on your Sharp TV remote. Select System Options. Select AQUOS Link Setup. Set AQUOS Link Control to On.
...
HDMI CEC:
Go to the settings menu. ...
Select All Settings.
Select General.
Select SIMPLINK (HDMI-CEC).
Set SIMPLINK (HDMI-CEC) toOn.

[squirtNcider]

This is also happening to a friend of mine but he can't find CEC or SIMPLINK anywwhere....Would it be called anything else on a new 2022 Samsung tv?

[dishuser]

This is also happening to a friend of mine but he can't find CEC or SIMPLINK anywwhere....Would it be called anything else on a new 2022 Samsung tv?

it's anynet+
read post #12

[squirtNcider]

Found it but turning that off made it flicker on and off even more. Anything else that could be causing this?

[dishuser]

Found it but turning that off made it flicker on and off even more. Anything else that could be causing this?

did you try a new cable?

[squirtNcider]

A few different ones.

[intelpenny4]

if all fails and your having a lot of problems i ended up having to change my hdmi port. how i came to that conclusion was messing around with the cable. i moved the box one day and must of hit the cable just right and the picture went out. i plugged it back in and picture came on. try pulling the hdmi cable out of its port just a little bit and i mean just a little bit. that’s how i determined that my port was wore out. i haven’t had problems since then.

good luck finding the port of you replace it. getting harder to find that style.

[The Noof]

if all fails and your having a lot of problems i ended up having to change my hdmi port. how i came to that conclusion was messing around with the cable. i moved the box one day and must of hit the cable just right and the picture went out. i plugged it back in and picture came on. try pulling the hdmi cable out of its port just a little bit and i mean just a little bit. that’s how i determined that my port was wore out. i haven’t had problems since then.

good luck finding the port of you replace it. getting harder to find that style.

I've changed 2 of them for the same reason.I'm pretty sure I have 2 spares if anyone needs one.They are hard to get.Mine came on a very slow boat from China.

[squirtNcider]

Im going to head to his house tomorrow....I'll post back what I find out.

[auggie]

One of my T5 boxes has the wonky HDMI port, so what I did was use a AV-TO-HDMI-Converter Up-Scaler to TV
I find there is Little difference between the Two, (Pic. Quality etc.)

[jets]

Jackson,

Are you running direct to a TV or through an Amp? You could always us RGB and L/R audio, it wont cut out then and quality is the same.

[squirtNcider]

Couldn't figure it out.....Works perfect still on his old tv, just not the new Samsung. Went though every setting I could find but still does it like every few minutes or so.

[Terryl]

How old is the older TV?

It could be something wonky with HDCP support* on the Dreamlink box, older TV's don't care too much about that, the newer ones do.


*https://www.lifewire.com/hdmi-dvi-hdcp-3276373

Have you tried all the ports on the new TV?

[squirtNcider]

We tried changing to all the different ports. The old tv, sharp aquos, is about 10 years old.

[auggie]

We tried changing to all the different ports. The old tv, sharp aquos, is about 10 years old.

It is most likely the Wonky HDMI port on the T5, I had one doing the same as yours, I ended up using AV-To-HDMI Converter

to Solve the Problem.

[squirtNcider]

I even brought my receiver to his house and it did the same thing.

[Terryl]

I even brought my receiver to his house and it did the same thing.If it did the same thing at your friends house but works OK on your old TV but not the new one, then something is wrong with the HDMI port drivers in the boxes software, or the HDMI chip set in the receiver.

Have you done any software up dates???

[squirtNcider]

I never knew there were updates for the T5 anymore. If there is, where would I find them?

[The Noof]

I never knew there were updates for the T5 anymore. If there is, where would I find them?

0106 is the latest/last.

[squirtNcider]

Its got the latest updates so I picked this up off Amazon for $10. Hopefully does the job for him.

29468

[auggie]

That should do it, just make sure All the settings for Video Adapter/TV Match Up

[squirtNcider]

Will do and I'll post back here with the results.......

[The Noof]

You won't get 720/1080 resolution with that...only 480.You need something like this for HD:
hxxps://www.amazon.ca/Component-Coverter-NEWCARE-Converter-Supports/dp/B07ZHFR2V3/ref=asc_df_B07ZHFR2V3/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459812522877&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17858562129873030419&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9104712&hvtargid=pla-862897939834&psc=1

[auggie]

If on North 82/91 Most channels are "Still" at 480p anyways, only a few at 720p This 4K stuff is all Hype with the Providers etc.
New TV's etc. can upscale the Video to 1080p.

[squirtNcider]

It says it can do 1080p....Here is the listing:

hxxps://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0B3HTVBGJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[dishuser]

It says it can do 1080p....Here is the listing:

hxxps://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0B3HTVBGJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

you want composite not component for hd

[auggie]

you want composite not component for hd

DU it's the other-way-round you want component not composite, Like the one The Noof posted in #36

Red Blue Green/Yellow Video cables=Component RCA= Red White Yellow cables=Composite Red/White=Audio Yellow=Video

[squirtNcider]

Well, I'll give this one a try and see if he likes the pic quality. If it's bad, return and order a better one.

[dishuser]

DU it's the other-way-round you want component not composite, Like the one The Noof posted in #36

Red Blue Green/Yellow Video cables=Component RCA= Red White Yellow cables=Composite Red/White=Audio Yellow=Video

not my fault
it was the gummie bear...lol

[auggie]

not my fault
it was the gummie bear...lol

Yes those "GOOD GUMMY BEARS" can do lots of things like Change the colors on Ya etc. I know cause I take them
every Night for !!SLEEP!!............LOL LOL

[squirtNcider]

Will there be a noticable picture difference between composite and component?

[The Noof]

Will there be a noticable picture difference between composite and component?

red/yellow/white yields 480p which is sd only.Red/blue/green yields 720p on an hd broadcast.Some tvs can upscale 720p to 1080I.The picture difference/quality is quite noticeably better on hd broadcasts with red/blue/green,even when converted to hdmi.

[squirtNcider]

Well, that did solve the issue but the picture wasn't that good so he is going to get the component version.
Thanks for all the help!

[intelpenny4]

i wonder if the video buffer or hdmi ic chip has anything to do with this problem the T5 suffers from :noidea:

[jackson]

Tried the fan on top of the receiver and still does it have new power supply have another on in the bed room rock solid never has a problem (what is the voltage and amp for the power supply that you guys are using)
The problem TV is a Vizio and the tv with no problems is a older LG don't know if that's a factor

Jackson

[auggie]

Tried the fan on top of the receiver and still does it have new power supply have another on in the bed room rock solid never has a problem (what is the voltage and amp for the power supply that you guys are using)
The problem TV is a Vizio and the tv with no problems is a older LG don't know if that's a factor

Jackson

You need a power supply at 12v 3.5-6 amp for the T5 to operate properly, and also how much equipment
the Box has to power-up (dishes,LNB's,long cable runs,HD Module, etc. etc.) You should also have cooling measures
in place (FANS) to keep the components inside from Over-Heating. if you are using HDMI For hook-up the cable
Spec's for the Vizio to T5 have to match (1.2 1.3 1.4 etc.) and in some cases you might need a booster/converter
of some kind, cause some T5's have the WONKY HDMI PORT, I have one with it and I had to hook-up with a
Component to HDMI Converter for mine to work right.

[intelpenny4]

i use a 12v 6 amp. my coax run is only like 60ft at the most. i use dish pro lnb so not much power needed there. fan installed on top using power from inside the dream itself.

[The Noof]

i use a 12v 6 amp. my coax run is only like 60ft at the most. i use dish pro lnb so not much power needed there. fan installed on top using power from inside the dream itself.

I'm using a similar setup:I have a thin 12v 80mm fan mounted on the iside of the cover.I'm using the 3 pin connector near the front left corner of the mainboard.It's 5vdc, so the fan runs slower,but very quietly.Still nice & cool, & it looks factory.I have 7 units out there all the same config.We use 4 & 5 amp power supplies with good results.

[maloque]

Mine keep rebooting by itself every 15 minutes.

I replaced the powersupply for 12v 5a, replaced the hd module, I have a fan on it but not connected to the box.

Does it since couple of weeks, I got my box for about 5 years.

Any idea?

[auggie]

Mine keep rebooting by itself every 15 minutes.

I replaced the powersupply for 12v 5a, replaced the hd module, I have a fan on it but not connected to the box.

Does it since couple of weeks, I got my box for about 5 years.

Any idea? Take the HD Module out & see if it reboots on a SD Channel.
when you replaced the hd module did you seat it with the white arrow on the HD board pointing to back of receiver ?
Failing that then I would say you have some Failing capacitors or Bulging ones on the PS Board

[maloque]

Take the HD Module out & see if it reboots on a SD Channel.
when you replaced the hd module did you seat it with the white arrow on the HD board pointing to back of receiver ?
Failing that then I would say you have some Failing capacitors or Bulging ones on the PS Board

Yes, I put the module on the right side. I'll test it without the module, good idea

[auggie]

Yes, I put the module on the side. I'll test it without the module, good idea

This maybe worth a try: https://www.satfix.to/showthread.php...otloop-upgrade (https://www.satfix.to/showthread.php?217097-dreamlink-t5-bootloop-upgrade)

[auggie]

Also how Old is the Power adapter you are using with the T5 ?

[maloque]

Also how Old is the Power adapter you are using with the T5 ?

About 2 years. For the moment, it doesn't reboot without the module.
I'll give it a try 1 or 2 more days.

It does reboots with 2 different modules. If its really the module, I'll put it back and try the bootloop file.

[maloque]

Without the module, it rebooted like once in 24 hours and blinked 2 times.
I'll try the bootloop file.

[auggie]

Without the module, it rebooted like once in 24 hours and blinked 2 times.
I'll try the bootloop file.

By the sounds of what you are Telling me, I believe you are having Heat issues, the fan you are using
is not doing a good enough Job of Cooling Things or The capacitors on the Power Board are Failing (Bulging Caps)

[maloque]

By the sounds of what you are Telling me, I believe you are having Heat issues, the fan you are using
is not doing a good enough Job of Cooling Things or The capacitors on the Power Board are Failing (Bulging Caps)

I think my fan is good, the box is all cold.
But I keep an eye on the capacitors ��

Sometimes it lost signal even if the weather is fine

[auggie]

Are you getting any messages on TV Screen like "Bad Signal, No Signal" ??

If so then it might be your Power Adapter, is Failing ?

[maloque]

Yeah I get this message.
I don't have any bulbing capacitors, but I'm going to test each of em and powersupply with multimeter.

[auggie]

Yeah I get this message.
I don't have any bulbing capacitors, but I'm going to test each of em and powersupply with multimeter.

Try a different (New) Power Adapter, if you are getting the "Bad Signal, No Signal" Message

[gig63]

It sounds more like his dish has moved and its just hitting the end of the signal area

[auggie]

It sounds more like his dish has moved and its just hitting the end of the signal area

That won't cause his Receiver T5 to Reboot which was his original post on the issue, But a Failing power adapter
or HD Module, bad Caps etc. will most likely cause it, especially when you are getting the "Bad Signal, No Signal" Message
Showing up on TV.

[maloque]

That won't cause his Receiver T5 to Reboot which was his original post on the issue, But a Failing power adapter
or HD Module, bad Caps etc. will most likely cause it, especially when you are getting the "Bad Signal, No Signal" Message
Showing up on TV.

No the dish is good, I got really good signal on both lnbs.
Did a lot of tests, it really seem to be powersupply or hd module. It did reboot without but just once.

I tested 3 powersupplies, 1 x 2a, 1 x 2.5a and 1 x 5a. It reboot with all of them. I got them for about 2 years.

I tested 2 hd modules. It reboot with both.

I need to test with brand new powersupply or hd module, to be contined.... ��

[auggie]

If you are "Still" Getting The "Bad Signal, No Signal" Message Showing up, Then My $$$ is on the Power Adapter is Failing

or the Components inside the T5 (bad Caps) are on their way "OUT." You may not always see Bulging Caps, indicating

they are Bad or Failing.

[maloque]

Finally found that was a failing powersupply, again... ��

Anyway, just need to buy a new one, not too bad ��*♂️

[maloque]

Oops wrong diagnostic, that is my Hd module.

I got 2 fans on it, I tried to put thermal compound but still reboot when it become hot.

Will try to put a heat sink. We'll see

[auggie]

Oops wrong diagnostic, that is my Hd module.

I got 2 fans on it, I tried to put thermal compound but still reboot when it become hot.

Will try to put a heat sink. We'll see

Your T5 HD Module, should have either a Silicone or Aluminum Heat-sink on it already ?
And you have to make sure it is seated/installed on the Board in the right direction (arrow on module pointing to back of T5)

[maloque]

Your T5 HD Module, should have either a Silicone or Aluminum Heat-sink on it already ?
And you have to make sure it is seated/installed on the Board in the right direction (arrow on module pointing to back of T5)

Yeah it had a rubber block on my first, now it is an aluminum heatsink.
It felt by itself, so I put it back on the module with thermal compound.

[The Noof]

If your 8psk is getting too hot,even with supplemental cooling, AND you have had multiple power supply problems,you probably have a cabling/lnb/switch issue causing this.Time to look deeper in to the cause rather than the effect.I have only once replaced an 8psk for the second time on a dreamlink, and never a power supply for the second time.I have about a dozen dreamlinks out there.I assume you're using at least 3.5 amp supplies?
If your unit has the silicone block heat sink,take note that they are slightly rectangular rather than square.Be sure to install it the way that gives it the best crush between the the 8psk & the cover.You should feel a slight warm spot where the block & the cover contact.

[maloque]

If your 8psk is getting too hot,even with supplemental cooling, AND you have had multiple power supply problems,you probably have a cabling/lnb/switch issue causing this.Time to look deeper in to the cause rather than the effect.I have only once replaced an 8psk for the second time on a dreamlink, and never a power supply for the second time.I have about a dozen dreamlinks out there.I assume you're using at least 3.5 amp supplies?
If your unit has the silicone block heat sink,take note that they are slightly rectangular rather than square.Be sure to install it the way that gives it the best crush between the the 8psk & the cover.You should feel a slight warm spot where the block & the cover contact.

No I checked everything, I got a 4amps and 5 amps powersupply, a laptop cooling system (not connected on the box), my lnbs and cabling are fine.

I know that my problem was the heat of the module. Thats better since I put new thermal paster with goog heat sink.

No reboot for now.

Thx

[auggie]

No I checked everything, I got a 4amps and 5 amps powersupply, a laptop cooling system (not connected on the box), my lnbs and cabling are fine.

I know that my problem was the heat of the module. Thats better since I put new thermal paster with goog heat sink.

No reboot for now.

Thx

laptop cooling system, (where T5 Sits on top of it) Is Not going to "CUT IT FOR COOLING" not enough air-flow
from bottom of Receiver upwards, Needs circulating air from Top-down & some way of getting the Hot air out

[surfinisfun]

I know for sure the original power supply effects the T5. In fact I've changed it myself to great success.

This latest conversation however has nothing....really to do with the topic post. Maybe, if a mod has a few minutes this thread could be split for both topics.