Low Latency IPTV service to Canada

[Justmee]

Ok so I am currently on a IPTV provider (proviewsible [dot] com)

Now I have had issues with them though they were good at start
but lately it is getting bad the latency to their servers are
horrible.

Now this isn't on my end I am on a fiber connection pulling 700 Mbs
to 900 Mbps up and down.

Now I am in Canada the servers unfortunately look like they
maybe in the Netherlands possibly.

So they route though either ntt.net or cogentco.com and it is killing
me the latency is just a mess.

Part of a TCP Traceroute routing though ntt.net

7 150 ms 150 ms 148 ms 129.250.6.146 [ae-9.r20.londen12.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net]
8 162 ms 158 ms 161 ms 129.250.5.2 [ae-11.r20.amstnl07.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net]
9 164 ms 175 ms 155 ms 129.250.2.163 [ae-0.a00.amstnl09.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net]

ICMP Traceroute routing though cogentco.

9 690 ms 698 ms 168 ms 154.54.7.130 [be2718.ccr22.cle04.atlas.cogentco.com]
10 171 ms 167 ms 168 ms 154.54.26.130 [be2878.ccr21.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com]
11 170 ms 171 ms 170 ms 154.54.93.14 [be4325.ccr52.lhr01.atlas.cogentco.com]
12 170 ms 169 ms 168 ms 154.54.47.146 [be4283.ccr52.lhr01.atlas.cogentco.com]
13 168 ms 260 ms 165 ms 154.54.60.5 [be3487.ccr41.lon13.atlas.cogentco.com]
14 167 ms 168 ms 171 ms 154.54.74.122 [be2784.rcr71.b019090-1.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com]
15 170 ms 701 ms 172 ms 154.54.74.126 [be3818.rcr71.b019090-1.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com]

The traceroutes are going to pro.viewsible.com which is the
server I connect into here. Incase you are wonder.

This isn't a comnnection issue on my end it is a routing issue
into europe. As I said the hops prior to these ones above are
all fine like 20 - 30 ms.

these traceroutes are done with NO VPN but I have tried
with a VPN and it isn't any better with a VPN (airvpn)


I have done traceroutes using TCP syn packets and the standard ICMP type
traceroutes. I am a trained net admin. I am not your average end user
here I am very well trained when it comes to computers and computer networks.

Now the traceroutes have been done though multiple different devices all
of which are wired devices no wireless devices were used.

Windows 10 machine and Debian 12 servers that I have here that are all
wired were used to do this. It doesn't matter what device is used you get
the just horrible latency going though either going though cogentco.com
or ntt.net

The latency is causing huge pauses and buffering in my TV experience
and it isn't good there isn't anything I can do prior to these parts
that I list everything is low like 20 - 30 ms then it goes though
either NTT.NET or COGENTCO.COM usually to get across from North America
and into Europe in the Atlantic crossing and everything goes to hell.

So basically what I am looking for is a good IPTV provider that can provide a
low latency experience. Where I am not going to buffer and lag constantly.

Now I would probably need 2 connections that is what I currently have.

Yes I know that you can't run servers easily here in North America because
of copyright laws but there must be a solution here for people in North
America for a low latency solution that is a reasonable price.
I mean I think I am paying $18 USD now for this but it is constantly
buffering and pausing. So I am looking for an alternative.

Now I do love the 24/7 channels and that is another thing that I
would need as many as possible please.

Now if owners of IPTV services here make recommendations for their
service then please provide me a link to the server because and
the general area where it maybe because I am going to do a traceroute
using a TCP and a ICMP traceroute to the server as part of my decision.

Any recommendations for a low latency IPTV solution that is still
with in a reasonable price?

I would need Canadian / USA channels too a lot of them they are the
main channels I watch UK and other English speaking channels would
be nice as a bonus too and the 24/7 channels as may as possible.

Again if you run a provider and are messaging me with recommendations
or posting here for recommendations then please give me a server
name I would be connecting to because I will do a traceroute
both TCP / SYN and ICMP to that server before considering it.

Using Xtream Code on my IPTV box or M3U. Also use this off
of android tablet / phone as well which is why I need 2 connections.

Thanks,

[dishuser]

Again if you run a provider and are messaging me with recommendations
or posting here for recommendations then please give me a server
name I would be connecting to because I will do a traceroute
both TCP / SYN and ICMP to that server before considering it.start reading in this section

[Emporium]

First rule.... you need to reach out to different service advertisers in the forum by PM. You do not request publicly that they contact you.

Secondly, latency alone will not cause the buffering issues you describe. The only effect high latency will have, is a slower response when you change channels/streams. Just takes longer for things to "start", but once they are flowing it should make 0 difference. Now, packet loss, jitter or a slow source would be a huge different story.

Also, you mentioned vpn. The one you mentioned is not one that is typically used by most iptv users and not sure how indicative it is of the effect of a proper vpn could have. Some common ones are ipvanish, windscribe, pia, nordvpn, etc..

I have used many servers, from many different parts of the world, and regardless of where they are located, you can still get a good stable stream. Sure, channel changes are slower, and takes time to get used to it when you have gotten used to quicker response, but streams can be stable. Hell I have set my mom up with a custom m3u list, with channels that are direct streaming from clear across the world, and because they are geoblocked, I have set it up with an auto-connecting vpn. They work flawlessly. Sure it takes a second or 2 to start streaming a newly tuned channel, but once it starts, she sits backs and enjoys her shows.

And you mentioned that they started off good, but went downhill since then. Sounds like a massive case of oversubscription with no money being reinvested into the equipment/backend. This is why I tell people not to invest more than they are willing to lose. Many good services out there that have been around for years, but there are no guarantees even with the best of them.

Do some reading like DU has mentioned, and reach out to some of the resellers advertising services to see what is available and suits your needs. Maybe you can start with the first sticky in this forum :) And there are many others you will see that have been around for ages also. Many reputable resellers here, and many selling more than one service.

[Highwayman]

Ok so I am currently on a IPTV provider (proviewsible [dot] com)

Now I have had issues with them though they were good at start
but lately it is getting bad the latency to their servers are
horrible.

Now this isn't on my end I am on a fiber connection pulling 700 Mbs
to 900 Mbps up and down.

Now I am in Canada the servers unfortunately look like they
maybe in the Netherlands possibly.

So they route though either ntt.net or cogentco.com and it is killing
me the latency is just a mess.

Part of a TCP Traceroute routing though ntt.net

7 150 ms 150 ms 148 ms 129.250.6.146 [ae-9.r20.londen12.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net]
8 162 ms 158 ms 161 ms 129.250.5.2 [ae-11.r20.amstnl07.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net]
9 164 ms 175 ms 155 ms 129.250.2.163 [ae-0.a00.amstnl09.nl.bb.gin.ntt.net]

ICMP Traceroute routing though cogentco.

9 690 ms 698 ms 168 ms 154.54.7.130 [be2718.ccr22.cle04.atlas.cogentco.com]
10 171 ms 167 ms 168 ms 154.54.26.130 [be2878.ccr21.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com]
11 170 ms 171 ms 170 ms 154.54.93.14 [be4325.ccr52.lhr01.atlas.cogentco.com]
12 170 ms 169 ms 168 ms 154.54.47.146 [be4283.ccr52.lhr01.atlas.cogentco.com]
13 168 ms 260 ms 165 ms 154.54.60.5 [be3487.ccr41.lon13.atlas.cogentco.com]
14 167 ms 168 ms 171 ms 154.54.74.122 [be2784.rcr71.b019090-1.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com]
15 170 ms 701 ms 172 ms 154.54.74.126 [be3818.rcr71.b019090-1.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com]

The traceroutes are going to pro.viewsible.com which is the
server I connect into here. Incase you are wonder.

This isn't a comnnection issue on my end it is a routing issue
into europe. As I said the hops prior to these ones above are
all fine like 20 - 30 ms.

these traceroutes are done with NO VPN but I have tried
with a VPN and it isn't any better with a VPN (airvpn)


I have done traceroutes using TCP syn packets and the standard ICMP type
traceroutes. I am a trained net admin. I am not your average end user
here I am very well trained when it comes to computers and computer networks.

Now the traceroutes have been done though multiple different devices all
of which are wired devices no wireless devices were used.

Windows 10 machine and Debian 12 servers that I have here that are all
wired were used to do this. It doesn't matter what device is used you get
the just horrible latency going though either going though cogentco.com
or ntt.net

The latency is causing huge pauses and buffering in my TV experience
and it isn't good there isn't anything I can do prior to these parts
that I list everything is low like 20 - 30 ms then it goes though
either NTT.NET or COGENTCO.COM usually to get across from North America
and into Europe in the Atlantic crossing and everything goes to hell.

So basically what I am looking for is a good IPTV provider that can provide a
low latency experience. Where I am not going to buffer and lag constantly.

Now I would probably need 2 connections that is what I currently have.

Yes I know that you can't run servers easily here in North America because
of copyright laws but there must be a solution here for people in North
America for a low latency solution that is a reasonable price.
I mean I think I am paying $18 USD now for this but it is constantly
buffering and pausing. So I am looking for an alternative.

Now I do love the 24/7 channels and that is another thing that I
would need as many as possible please.

Now if owners of IPTV services here make recommendations for their
service then please provide me a link to the server because and
the general area where it maybe because I am going to do a traceroute
using a TCP and a ICMP traceroute to the server as part of my decision.

Any recommendations for a low latency IPTV solution that is still
with in a reasonable price?

I would need Canadian / USA channels too a lot of them they are the
main channels I watch UK and other English speaking channels would
be nice as a bonus too and the 24/7 channels as may as possible.

Again if you run a provider and are messaging me with recommendations
or posting here for recommendations then please give me a server
name I would be connecting to because I will do a traceroute
both TCP / SYN and ICMP to that server before considering it.

Using Xtream Code on my IPTV box or M3U. Also use this off
of android tablet / phone as well which is why I need 2 connections.

Thanks,

why are you using just one provider lol
iptv is a shared platform tons of sites
out there to get shared iptv free even
the ones sold here build your own playlist
these providers get their chit from suppliers
theres no one connection per iptv provider
there can be many dont believe what ppl tell you
about connections either also 24/7`s are cached
thats why they run better than live too
it takes nothing to run them

go to a iptv crack site learn about iptv
it was made by them for them

the latency mumbo jumbo isnt really going to help you
find a perfect running iptv service you`ll have to do that by testing the thousands
of iptv services out there then make your own playlist with the ones that run good for you

take your playlist to pastebin it runs php you can update and share your lists
if your just a guest at pastebin youll be limited to the size of the list you can
make.yup to get that perfect playlist it will take more than one provider for sure..........

[nobodyspecial]

Justmee
No discussion of pricing in the open forum Must use pm
Ty

[Justmee]

Justmee
No discussion of pricing in the open forum Must use pm
Ty


I am not asking for pricing get a clue! I am asking just about providers
who maybe low latency to canada I NEVER asked about pricing!

[Justmee]

First rule.... you need to reach out to different service advertisers in the forum by PM. You do not request publicly that they contact you.

Secondly, latency alone will not cause the buffering issues you describe. The only effect high latency will have, is a slower response when you change channels/streams. Just takes longer for things to "start", but once they are flowing it should make 0 difference. Now, packet loss, jitter or a slow source would be a huge different story.

Also, you mentioned vpn. The one you mentioned is not one that is typically used by most iptv users and not sure how indicative it is of the effect of a proper vpn could have. Some common ones are ipvanish, windscribe, pia, nordvpn, etc..

I have used many servers, from many different parts of the world, and regardless of where they are located, you can still get a good stable stream. Sure, channel changes are slower, and takes time to get used to it when you have gotten used to quicker response, but streams can be stable. Hell I have set my mom up with a custom m3u list, with channels that are direct streaming from clear across the world, and because they are geoblocked, I have set it up with an auto-connecting vpn. They work flawlessly. Sure it takes a second or 2 to start streaming a newly tuned channel, but once it starts, she sits backs and enjoys her shows.

And you mentioned that they started off good, but went downhill since then. Sounds like a massive case of oversubscription with no money being reinvested into the equipment/backend. This is why I tell people not to invest more than they are willing to lose. Many good services out there that have been around for years, but there are no guarantees even with the best of them.

Do some reading like DU has mentioned, and reach out to some of the resellers advertising services to see what is available and suits your needs. Maybe you can start with the first sticky in this forum :) And there are many others you will see that have been around for ages also. Many reputable resellers here, and many selling more than one service.

Wow you are clueless latency will cause the buffering when you bottle neck at certain locations
along the way like that.

I am a trained friggin network admin I know what I am talking about here.

The high latency like I am getting most definately will cause buffering and
connection issues.

You say you have used connections from all over the world but you have
no clue about basic networking.

The VPN you use isn't the issue here the issue is with the ROUTE to
the server itself. Again it doesn't have to be one that you recognize.

LOL OMG you are utterly clueless!

I am not new to IPTV and I have done a lot of research and continue to
do so! But I thought people here would have a recomendation for a provider
here in Canada that maybe low latency.

What you said in your post is absolutely incorrect when it comes
to the latency. You don't clearly know what you are talking about.

[dishuser]

enjoy the readers club

[Justmee]

why are you using just one provider lol
iptv is a shared platform tons of sites
out there to get shared iptv free even
the ones sold here build your own playlist
these providers get their chit from suppliers
theres no one connection per iptv provider
there can be many dont believe what ppl tell you
about connections either also 24/7`s are cached
thats why they run better than live too
it takes nothing to run them

go to a iptv crack site learn about iptv
it was made by them for them

the latency mumbo jumbo isnt really going to help you
find a perfect running iptv service you`ll have to do that by testing the thousands
of iptv services out there then make your own playlist with the ones that run good for you

take your playlist to pastebin it runs php you can update and share your lists
if your just a guest at pastebin youll be limited to the size of the list you can
make.yup to get that perfect playlist it will take more than one provider for sure..........


What the heck are you talking about... I have always used one IPTV provider
you want me to have like 2 - 3 of them just to provide stable service
that is absolute garbage. Another person that has no clue what they
are talking about are you just a troll or what?

"go to a iptv crack site learn about iptv
it was made by them for them"

LOL you must be kidding me I know all about
IPTV I am a trained network admin.

This some script kiddy kid or something that is replying
to me.

The latency mumbo jumbo as you call it is an issue and will affect
you when it comes to buffering and connection issues if you are
getting high latency along the hops to the server. you clearly don't
know what you are talking about go learn about latency
when it relates to live streaming or video streaming


https://www.vplayed.com/blog/low-latency-video-streaming/

"Ultra low latency video streaming is especially important in interactive live video streaming platform as high latency can have a significant impact on end users’ experience."

Also applies to IPTV too as it is basically live streaming to
the device.

[nobodyspecial]

I am not asking for pricing get a clue! I am asking just about providers
who maybe low latency to canada I NEVER asked about pricing!

Get a clue? Seems to me youre the one who needs to clue in. You did post pricing
It was a friendly reminder about some of the rules here but your response did get you membership in the readers club

[pugsycan]

Get a clue? Seems to me youre the one who needs to clue in. You did post pricing
It was a friendly reminder about some of the rules here but your response did get you membership in the readers club

Your nicer than me My finger was on the ban button :D

[Highwayman]

aaaahhh i was waiting for the forums April fool joke!

[Highwayman]

i love this april fool lol

https://forum.husham.com/threads/need-low-latency-iptv-provider-i-am-in-canada.6617/
network admin doesn't even know how easily he can be found good laugh but not worth commenting......

[dishuser]

he's making new friends everywhere

[nobodyspecial]

It's too bad there aren't any servers based in Canada...lol

[Maestro701]

Well I know nothing about latency but I once used a service where channels took between 6-10 seconds to come in. Vpn or not, buzz device or tablet, same thing. I never knew why. Latency?

[10two7]

Well I know nothing about latency but I once used a service where channels took between 6-10 seconds to come in. Vpn or not, buzz device or tablet, same thing. I never knew why. Latency?

That's a great question and something that I was always curious about in regards to how different services have varying load times for live channels.

I have my favorite service where the live TV channels load instantly while other services might take 1 to 2 seconds and some are bad making me wait around 5 seconds.

I've noticed that the service that loads the live TV channels quickly has alot less in the on demand movies and shows department.

Personally, I'm impatient so I prefer services where the live TV section has quick loading channels and don't mind giving up a overwhelming large on demand section as a result.

[Maestro701]

That's a great question and something that I was always curious about in regards to how different services have varying load times for live channels.

I have my favorite service where the live TV channels load instantly while other services might take 1 to 2 seconds and some are bad making me wait around 5 seconds.

I've noticed that the service that loads the live TV channels quickly has alot less in the on demand movies and shows department.

Personally, I'm impatient so I prefer services where the live TV section has quick loading channels and don't mind giving up a overwhelming large on demand section as a result.

I was told that by a guy who runs a service, that VOD can have an impact on overall. I don't know 'cause I'm not schooled in that area. That service I used isn't have any more channels than the regular ones and could not understand why it took so long for channels to load. I think 6-10 seconds for channel load is ridiculous.

[Highwayman]

Well I know nothing about latency but I once used a service where channels took between 6-10 seconds to come in. Vpn or not, buzz device or tablet, same thing. I never knew why. Latency?

latency of course has a roll thats only obvious but there are many other factors one example
is redirection you can see here as far as channel changes this is fortv others can be completely different
note the top 2 lines
https://i.postimg.cc/NFnFbPMh/Screenshot-149.png
Another, iptv hosts can have several suppliers all delivering different rates it varies from server to server
this is iptv not hulu.

there are servers here with low bi-rate low bandwidth and standard def SD
you would think a network admin would be able to find these on his or her own
without having to ask.didnt seem to know much about the 24/7 caching either.

i should add that many providers try to protect their servers from evil doers
which can have different results pending the methods used. nothing is perfect
in iptv.i wonder who the op thinks runs these servers charlie or dave i dont think so lol.

[Highwayman]

I was told that by a guy who runs a service, that VOD can have an impact on overall. I don't know 'cause I'm not schooled in that area. That service I used isn't have any more channels than the regular ones and could not understand why it took so long for channels to load. I think 6-10 seconds for channel load is ridiculous.

once again here vod in most cases are mp4`s mkv avi they like the 24/7`s are cached they will run better than live channels
many more factors running live channels like i mentioned redirection, security etc. etc.