Dish signa red

[wilfredw]

All of sudden signal and quality went from 97 blue to 97 red. It wasn't windy or raining, just went from perfect to nothing. Anyone know what happened?

[auggie]

All of sudden signal and quality went from 97 blue to 97 red. It wasn't windy or raining, just went from perfect to nothing. Anyone know what happened?

Dish moved, switch failed if using one, LNB Quit, loose cable, weather, power supply, "Big Bird" Landed on LNB
Just about anything can cause it, have to track it down.

[wilfredw]

Dish moved, switch failed if using one, LNB Quit, loose cable, weather, power supply, "Big Bird" Landed on LNB
Just about anything can cause it, have to track it down.

Unlikely both lnb would quit at same time. No wind, no weather, no switch, no birds. What do you mean, power supply? Cables are tight. Can spliters fail?

[dishuser]

Unlikely both lnb would quit at same time. No wind, no weather, no switch, no birds. What do you mean, power supply? Cables are tight.

power supply is probably not putting out enough power

[The Noof]

I bet on either the 8psk or power supply.Remove the hd module & try to tune in a non-hd channel on the 91 sat.

[auggie]

Are you getting any messages like Bad signal,No signal showing on TV Screen ?

If so then it is most likely the Power Adapter (plugs in wall) that feeds your T5, especially if it

Was the original one that came with the box, have you changed it out lately, you need one 12v 4-6amp

For the T5 to operate correctly.

[wilfredw]

Are you getting any messages like Bad signal,No signal showing on TV Screen ?

If so then it is most likely the Power Adapter (plugs in wall) that feeds your T5, especially if it

Was the original one that came with the box, have you changed it out lately, you need one 12v 4-6amp

For the T5 to operate correctly.

Thanks, haven't tried that yet, will buy one. Been using the same one for about 8 or 10 years. No or bad signal comes up.

[landscaper]

Unlikely both lnb would quit at same time. No wind, no weather, no switch, no birds. What do you mean, power supply? Cables are tight. Can spliters fail?

Yes splitters can fail.

[Terryl]

Try feeling the wall mounted power supply,(wall wart) if it's warm it's probably working, if all channels are in the red then it's probably something in the receiver.

The 97 red reading could mean that the receiver is working and receiving a signal from the LNB's, it would go to zero or something much lower then 97 if the LNB's or switch had quit.

I would go with the noofs suggestion and remove the HD module and try a SD channel.

[gig63]

Has your service run out

Also check in satellite if sat 91 and 82 are setup properly

[The Noof]

Has your service run out

Also check in satellite if sat 91 and 82 are setup properly

Account status has no bearing on sat signal.

[wilfredw]

Yes splitters can fail.

Will try new splitter.

[wilfredw]

Ordered new power supply today, will be a couple days. Have to go back on roof, moved dish all over earlier, too windy today. Will go up with my satellite finder when it's not so windy. Will keep everyone informed as I go.

[auggie]

Will try new splitter.

These splitters you talk about, where are they located in your setup, if between the LNB Feed to your T5
it won't work Properly, the receiver switching will get all out of wack over time. far as I recall/remember & I could
wrong on this, the receiver has to talk to the LNB on a constant bases, having splitters in-between mucks things up.

[dishuser]

These splitters you talk about, where are they located in your setup, if between the LNB Feed to your T5
it won't work Properly, the receiver switching will get all out of wack over time. far as I recall/remember & I could
wrong on this, the receiver has to talk to the LNB on a constant bases, having splitters in-between mucks things up.

if main is on vertical so does secondary for it to work
same applies for lnb in and out on receiver

[auggie]

To lock/find his problem i would leave the splitters out of the setup & add them in after problem solved if needed.

[auggie]

Thanks, haven't tried that yet, will buy one. Been using the same one for about 8 or 10 years. No or bad signal comes up.

if you been using the original power adapter for 8-10yrs. your lucky cause the original ones fail in short order
I will bet Dimes To Donuts it is the power adapter. the tell-tale sign of it failing is the BAD/NO SIGNAL message
Showing up on TV.

[wilfredw]

These splitters you talk about, where are they located in your setup, if between the LNB Feed to your T5
it won't work Properly, the receiver switching will get all out of wack over time. far as I recall/remember & I could
wrong on this, the receiver has to talk to the LNB on a constant bases, having splitters in-between mucks things up.

With the dual lnb, you have to have a splitter to get both 82+91 SATs. Has been working good for many years. Yea they are located right after the bev dish.

[wilfredw]

if you been using the original power adapter for 8-10yrs. your lucky cause the original ones fail in short order
I will bet Dimes To Donuts it is the power adapter. the tell-tale sign of it failing is the BAD/NO SIGNAL message
Showing up on TV.

New power supply will be here Saturday.

[auggie]

With the dual lnb, you have to have a splitter to get both 82+91 SATs. Has been working good for many years. Yea they are located right after the bev dish.

OK then, that is not called a splitter, it is either a combiner or a switch like a SW21 or SW44
Or a Tone switch combiner etc. Splitters That I recall take the Single feed and split it into 2 sources/locations
like for 2-TV's etc. Those do not work with FTA Sat. equipment because they are not switches or combiners.

[squirtNcider]

Is he maybe using a diseq switch that has 4 ports? If so, try switching from the current 2 ports you are using to the other unused ones.

[wilfredw]

Is he maybe using a diseq switch that has 4 ports? If so, try switching from the current 2 ports you are using to the other unused ones.

Nope, no diseq.

[wilfredw]

OK then, that is not called a splitter, it is either a combiner or a switch like a SW21 or SW44
Or a Tone switch combiner etc. Splitters That I recall take the Single feed and split it into 2 sources/locations
like for 2-TV's etc. Those do not work with FTA Sat. equipment because they are not switches or combiners.

It's a both way splitter.

[auggie]

It's a both way splitter.

OK, Then it is a BI-Directional splitter for Sat, not a regular "Cable splitter" which don't work for sat equipment.

[wilfredw]

New power supply 6 amp didn't help. Ordered a expensive sat finder, will be here Wednesday. My cheap finder I bought wouldn't work at all.

[dishuser]

New power supply 6 amp didn't help. Ordered a expensive sat finder, will be here Wednesday. My cheap finder I bought wouldn't work at all.

cheap sat finder
preset elevation and skew
make sure mast is plumb
move the dish in increments

[auggie]

Go to dishpointer dot com put in your location what dish being used & what sats. you want to hit

and the program will give you the info to where you need to point the dish, including a line of sight bar from your dish location

[The Noof]

Buy a cheap compass instead of a cheap sat finder.Have you tried removing the hd module as I suggested?

[Terryl]

Dishpointer dot com has an app for most cell phones, (if my memory is still working right) some phones also have a compass app, (my apple does) you can use your cell phone to help you out.

[wilfredw]

Buy a cheap compass instead of a cheap sat finder.Have you tried removing the hd module as I suggested?

91 doesn't work with it in?

[wilfredw]

Funny thing, I don't have a cell phone.

[wilfredw]

Buy a cheap compass instead of a cheap sat finder.Have you tried removing the hd module as I suggested?

I may have moved it up or down also.

[wilfredw]

cheap sat finder
preset elevation and skew
make sure mast is plumb
move the dish in increments

My cheap sat finder wouldn't make contact on the receiver end.

[dishuser]

My cheap sat finder wouldn't make contact on the receiver end.

I don't think you understand what I posted

[The Noof]

91 doesn't work with it in?

If the module is defective,it will interfere with both signal streams.If you had of tried this before you reaimed the dish that you said didn't move,it would have been a better test.Now you don't know if it's signal lost beacuse of component failure or dish alignment

[The Noof]

P.S...yes,you will get the 91 sat with the module removed.

[wilfredw]

I don't think you understand what I posted

I probably don't, I'm far from an expert.

[wilfredw]

If the module is defective,it will interfere with both signal streams.If you had of tried this before you reaimed the dish that you said didn't move,it would have been a better test.Now you don't know if it's signal lost beacuse of component failure or dish alignment

This new sat finder doesn't need a receiver to work. So I will make sure it's pointed corrected first.

[wilfredw]

P.S...yes,you will get the 91 sat with the module removed.

But you can't get it if module is faulty ?

[dishuser]

I probably don't, I'm far from an expert.

you go to dishpointer and it will tell you elevation/skew
preset it and then slowly move dish

[auggie]

Just go here: hxxps://www.dishpointer.com/ input the info needed as per what DU & Noof & Myself have said
and you should be "Golden". It will show you where you need to point the Dish for the Sats. you want to hit.
from your location.

[wilfredw]

Looks like I've gotta take a break from this issue. Windy today, winter blast after that. Early next week again I hope. I have an IPTV service so I still have tv, not quite as reliable though. Thanks everyone for now.

[The Noof]

It would be good if you know of someone with an iks setup that you could try your stb in to confirm/eliminate it as the problem.Is that an option for you?

[wilfredw]

It would be good if you know of someone with an iks setup that you could try your stb in to confirm/eliminate it as the problem.Is that an option for you?

There is so few of us left. I don't know anyone else.

[auggie]

There is so few of us left. I don't know anyone else.

If you were located close too me I'd gladly help you out if I could, but I guess we can only help from A-FAR The best we can.

[wilfredw]

If you were located close too me I'd gladly help you out if I could, but I guess we can only help from A-FAR The best we can.

Looks like we are getting another week of winter so I don't know when I can get back on the roof.

[wilfredw]

Went up on the roof yesterday but had no luck. May have to read instructions on fancy new sat finder. Pulled module and no or bad signal is gone. Snow today, maybe the weekend.

[auggie]

Went up on the roof yesterday but had no luck. May have to read instructions on fancy new sat finder. Pulled module and no or bad signal is gone. Snow today, maybe the weekend.

have you gone to dishpointer dot com yet ? if not then I suggest you do that "FIRST" to be able to properly aim "YOUR DISH"
It will "SHOW YOU" where to point from "Your Exact Location"
You have to get your dish pointed & locked on to the sat or sats you want to hit, before you do anything else

[wilfredw]

Very windy today. Tomorrow and going up for sure. Got a helper here with me. Gonna work on it till it works.

[The Noof]

Very windy today. Tomorrow and going up for sure. Got a helper here with me. Gonna work on it till it works.

That's the spirit.

[wilfredw]

OK, set dish to sat pointer specs, did minor adjustments, nothing. On the dreamlink, signal bounces from 0 to 21 no matter the small adj. Only thing left is lnbs, but I'm not buying new ones so I guess that's it.

[auggie]

OK, set dish to sat pointer specs, did minor adjustments, nothing. On the dreamlink, signal bounces from 0 to 21 no matter the small adj. Only thing left is lnbs, but I'm not buying new ones so I guess that's it.

would you be able to get your hands on a older Bell receiver, they work way better for Dish pointing, and will lock on to
sat. (91/82) much easier than the T5 for pointing etc. You would hook up direct (no switches etc.) to 91 first for max signal
and depending on what dish setup you have (20" dish-500 with legacy LNB's) it would be a matter of (rotating/twisting-skew) the
Dish for 82. do you know what type of LNB's you have ? (legacy, dish pro, dishpro/plus) because the dish-pro & dish-pro/plus have
a built-in switch, which you have to account for in receiver dish settings setup.

[The Noof]

You're in a tough spot now because you don't know if it's a hardware issue, or simply aiming the dish.You have disturbed the dish aim now,so you're staring from ground zero.If there's someone you trust to send your DL to that has a functioning system, I would try that.At least you can confim/eliminate the state of the DL itself.If it's good, you're down to dish aim/cabling/switches/lnbs.I have no idea where you live but I'm willing to help if I can.

[auggie]

I am willing to test your T5 on my setup just to rule out that it's not a receiver or hardware problem etc.
If you are willing to send it to me, willing to do Free of $$. If interested send a P.M. and we can work out something

[squirtNcider]

If he happens to be in the Windsor/Essex County area, I will also do that for him to rule out the receiver issue.
I've been helped here many times so it's no probs to help out another member.

[The Noof]

And I'm just south of Owen Sound ON.

[wilfredw]

I am willing to test your T5 on my setup just to rule out that it's not a receiver or hardware problem etc.
If you are willing to send it to me, willing to do Free of $$. If interested send a P.M. and we can work out something

It would be a lot more handy if someone was in the west, maybe edmonton.

[The Noof]

Auggie is far closer than I.

[auggie]

It would be a lot more handy if someone was in the west, maybe edmonton.

I'M in BC, If you are willing to send the unit (T5) To me I will test it out on my system (I am currently using a T5 )

That way you/we will no if it's the receiver or not, if it needs a HD module, I have some if needed

All this at "NO COST TO YOU" other than the shipping cost to send it to me. So if still interested in doing this send a P.M.

And we will "GET-ER DONE"

[The Noof]

You're a good man Auggie...you remind me of me.lol.

[auggie]

You're a good man Auggie...you remind me of me.lol.

call me OLD-FASHION, BUT that is how I was brought-up, and your "WORD" is your "BOND"

Or your handshake means Something, plus I hate to see people struggle with a problem (T5) that I maybe

Able to help with, that I have some interest in

[Bubble boy]

It would be a lot more handy if someone was in the west, maybe edmonton.

I'm an hour out of Edmonton if you like to try it out.

[wilfredw]

Anyone want a dreamlink ? I set up dish to sat pointer specs and made small adjustments, nothing. Hooked up old bell receiver, adjust adjust, adjust, got 90 signal once, when I walked away, it was gone never to be seen again. I give up. I want to thank everyone for there input and encouragement. I know when I'm beat.

[The Noof]

Anyone want a dreamlink ? I set up dish to sat pointer specs and made small adjustments, nothing. Hooked up old bell receiver, adjust adjust, adjust, got 90 signal once, when I walked away, it was gone never to be seen again. I give up. I want to thank everyone for there input and encouragement. I know when I'm beat.

Your more than welcome to send it to me to see if it can be saved.I'm not sure what signal you saw with the Bell ird,but it may be misleading you.All it will cost is the shipping.I will return it to you in any case.

[auggie]

I'll take it on if you want someone a little closer to you for shipping, your choice with Noof or myself
either way you are in good hands with us, we will test it out and let you know if receiver-hardware or something else.

Thanks Auggie

[Bubble boy]

As in post #62 you are more than welcome to get it checked out

[wilfredw]

I'm done. I'm too old to climb up on the roof. I injured a rib last time. That's all. It's been a slice. Thanks again everyone. Anyone close to edmonton can come and pick up the dreamlink for free.

[auggie]

I'm done. I'm too old to climb up on the roof. I injured a rib last time. That's all. It's been a slice. Thanks again everyone. Anyone close to edmonton can come and pick up the dreamlink for free.

I sent you a PM, you can send it to me (I'll pay shipping) if interested.

[seadog]

I am not certain if this problem fits this slot or not but I am experiencing a weird situation with a T5 on '91. The S&Q bars are red when I select sat setting but I am receiving most channels???? This should not be. I also have lost Foxnews on 1507 (just noticed that this morning) and attempted the possible fixes provided on another thread but no luck. Does anyone have an explanation regarding the red signal & quality bars but still receiving channels. There has been frequent brief freezes for the past couple of days and I thought it may have been due to a server problem. Now I think the T5 may be having weird problems instead. Thanks

[Simon Templar]

Noticed the changes also. Bell is moving channels to different transponders. Do not change anything till they are finish moving things to there final location. It maybe a few weeks till they stop moving things around. Till then watch what you have.

[surfinisfun]

I am not certain if this problem fits this slot or not but I am experiencing a weird situation with a T5 on '91. The S&Q bars are red when I select sat setting but I am receiving most channels???? This should not be. I also have lost Foxnews on 1507 (just noticed that this morning) and attempted the possible fixes provided on another thread but no luck. Does anyone have an explanation regarding the red signal & quality bars but still receiving channels. There has been frequent brief freezes for the past couple of days and I thought it may have been due to a server problem. Now I think the T5 may be having weird problems instead. Thanks

Same...... Not a T5 issue though, in my opinion.

[redrooster1]

Im on a Jynxbox and have 80% signal on all channels but no fox on "91" so its not just me losing fox.

[dishuser]

Im on a Jynxbox and have 80% signal on all channels but no fox on "91" so its not just me losing fox.

did you change tp frequency?

[dsd]

I am also having red signal on 91w certain transponders and hooked up my backup D5 and same issues , 501, 507 and 522 and more are bad signal. Transponder on 91w 1,2,3,4,5,6.. are all red now so I believe this is a issue with the 91 sat moving things around. So I guess we wait.. Good morning Auggie .....

[The Noof]

I am also having red signal on 91w certain transponders and hooked up my backup D5 and same issues , 501, 507 and 522 and more are bad signal. Transponder on 91w 1,2,3,4,5,6.. are all red now so I believe this is a issue with the 91 sat moving things around. So I guess we wait.. Good morning Auggie .....

Read the sat91/82 up/down thread:changes on Bell end.

[yarseno]

dig out that old 2700 and j-tag it to bev....use one eye at a time to find the bird....its the best receiver to catch a signal....no delay when u first hit the sweet spot....cheers...

yarseno out

[dishuser]

dig out that old 2700 and j-tag it to bev....use one eye at a time to find the bird....its the best receiver to catch a signal....no delay when u first hit the sweet spot....cheers...

yarseno out

no need for the j-tag