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The Noof
04-23-2024, 07:17 PM
Hi guys...we have a challenge on our hands with the transponder updates.I don't have ANY of my disassembly/compiling software anymore,& I haven't since the SV project.Does anyone know what language the software/firmware is written, and weather or not it's encrypted heavily?Once I know that,I will try to find software to look at it.It's worth a try.

jets
04-23-2024, 07:55 PM
Noof,

I am at work so can't try but just take the DL channel list file and try to open in notepad. Rename it first in case it get corrupted.

jets
04-23-2024, 08:01 PM
There is also this:

https://www.satfix.to/showthread.php?120173-Channel-Master-Version-1-20-03

May have to open Dreamlink file as another receiver.

The Noof
04-23-2024, 09:25 PM
Noof,

I am at work so can't try but just take the DL channel list file and try to open in notepad. Rename it first in case it get corrupted.

I tried that bro...I can't identify the file format.Not ASCII or C++ ,at least I don't think.It is probably encrypted

The Noof
04-23-2024, 09:27 PM
P.S...if you have any editors/disassemblers you can send,please feel free.I'm starting from scratch.I never thought I would need them again.

nobodyspecial
04-23-2024, 11:29 PM
I'm still in touch with one of the dreamlink team.
I'll ask him if he has any info.

surfinisfun
04-23-2024, 11:36 PM
I'm still in touch with one of the dreamlink team.
I'll ask him if he has any info.

Thanks man, that's likely the difference between a fat or skinny singing.

jets
04-24-2024, 01:39 AM
This wreaks of a provider f-up almost. I tried the VS Max with the editor and no go. IN the past when the south provider made changes we were able to edit the bin/sat files and away you go... Very good chance this is B3V f-up.

I know the jynx is working but it could be that it deals with the FEC and Symbol rates better.

nobodyspecial
04-24-2024, 02:15 AM
Sorry,my contact was no help.

jets
04-24-2024, 02:27 AM
Look in shout box, that's what I'm doing for now. I will try again tomorrow, I think it's a symbol rate/FEC issue.

Wonder if any subs having issues?

The Noof
04-24-2024, 12:24 PM
Look in shout box, that's what I'm doing for now. I will try again tomorrow, I think it's a symbol rate/FEC issue.

Wonder if any subs having issues?

I was thinking the same.Although you can change the SR to 21500, it doesn't mean it's supported in the firmware.Same can be said of FEC.I need to educate myself better at symbol rate and forward error correction.Could be a toughie.

jets
04-24-2024, 04:07 PM
Was interesting when I did the network scan with DL if found new TP's with a symbol rate of SR of 21500 and FEC 3/4.

I looked at Lyngsat to see some common SR/FEC combinations but none I tired worked. After the Leaf's game tonight I'll take another run at it.

I also use Channel Master to try an open the DL HD channel list in the editor under every known format and none would open the file, so I think that is out.

auggie
04-24-2024, 08:24 PM
OK, hope this is posted in the right place, if not please move it to where it needs to be

This is with the SV8000HD I have been able to get "SOME OF THE CHANNELS BACK" (with new changes)

91 sat. TP's 1-16 change to SR-21500 Pol.-Auto Fec-3/4A TURBO 8PSK

Have a signal lock on them after doing the changes, did a Sat. scan right after & Some are showing up but not ALL at this point ?

dishuser
04-24-2024, 09:27 PM
OK, hope this is posted in the right place, if not please move it to where it needs to be

This is with the SV8000HD I have been able to get "SOME OF THE CHANNELS BACK" (with new changes)

91 sat. TP's 1-16 change to SR-21500 Pol.-Auto Fec-3/4A TURBO 8PSK

Have a signal lock on them after doing the changes, did a Sat. scan right after & Some are showing up but not ALL at this point ?

did you check to see if your changes stuck?

anthonym41
04-24-2024, 09:31 PM
OK, hope this is posted in the right place, if not please move it to where it needs to be

This is with the SV8000HD I have been able to get "SOME OF THE CHANNELS BACK" (with new changes)

91 sat. TP's 1-16 change to SR-21500 Pol.-Auto Fec-3/4A TURBO 8PSK

Have a signal lock on them after doing the changes, did a Sat. scan right after & Some are showing up but not ALL at this point ?

Whats the sv800ohd please?

auggie
04-24-2024, 09:53 PM
did you check to see if your changes stuck?

So far Yes, but I got Duplicate & some Triple channels in the new Sat. scan, just finished editing them out.
Not ALL are coming in but most are there.

channel 627 Scifi wasn't working before, now it's coming in The ones not coming in show "No Info" in the Guide

anthonym41
04-24-2024, 09:58 PM
Sonicview 8000HD which was there only HD receiver made by them

you posted in the wrong section as this is for dreamlink and I tried what you posted but no luck whatsoever

anthonym41
04-25-2024, 06:05 PM
Any Updates Yet?

nobodyspecial
04-25-2024, 06:38 PM
Any Updates Yet?

Are you the kid in the backseat?..lol

squirtNcider
04-25-2024, 06:57 PM
So, just to ask....Will the Dreamlink T5 or DLHD (both with the module) still be usable after all this is done or should I try to track down a jynxbox....or will that one be done also?

The Noof
04-25-2024, 07:05 PM
2 things we don't know:if it can be done at all, & how long will the stream be useable.

dishuser
04-25-2024, 07:35 PM
So, just to ask....Will the Dreamlink T5 or DLHD (both with the module) still be usable after all this is done or should I try to track down a jynxbox....or will that one be done also?

I saw jynxbox v6's for sale the other day for $100

squirtNcider
04-25-2024, 08:06 PM
So the V6 is the one to get? I get it, that it may not work either. I only watch 82 and haven't noticed any channels missing. I do only use it for NHL and NFL though.
Forgot.....Does the Jynxbox also need any type of module like the Dreamlink receivers? Found one for $95 online and is the 8600 model....if that means anything. Never used one before.

dishuser
04-25-2024, 08:22 PM
as long as it has the jb200 module it should work for both sats

squirtNcider
04-25-2024, 10:23 PM
Was just going through my channels and all seem to be good on 82, which is all I watch. Is this only affecting 91 as quite a few of those channels are not working.

dishuser
04-25-2024, 10:36 PM
Was just going through my channels and all seem to be good on 82, which is all I watch. Is this only affecting 91 as quite a few of those channels are not working.

soon you won't be getting any channels on 82...lease is not being renewed

auggie
04-25-2024, 10:47 PM
Bev just added/moved more 91 TP's to Mpeg-4 1-19 are at SR-21500 currently

anthonym41
04-25-2024, 10:55 PM
I'm just hoping dreamlink will come up with a solution

auggie
04-25-2024, 11:09 PM
I'm just hoping dreamlink will come up with a solution

well so far looks like JynxBox & Sonicview 8000HD are working with the changes don't know about any
other Receiver/boxes that are working, Who knows for how long though ?

dishuser
04-25-2024, 11:10 PM
I'm just hoping dreamlink will come up with a solution

they already said no

auggie
04-25-2024, 11:36 PM
The DL-T5-HD are most likely going to need a total Re-Write of software/Firmware, which is
Probably not going to happen unless someone takes it on to do it, and being support has stopped along time ago
Just my 2-cents

foresight
04-26-2024, 04:22 AM
well so far looks like JynxBox & Sonicview 8000HD are working with the changes don't know about any
other Receiver/boxes that are working, Who knows for how long though ?

Seeing the NFHD worked with an FEC of 3/4A in the past I would say it could be added to the list as well. My is hibernating in it's box at the moment. Along with a few other aging stb's.

syabus
04-26-2024, 04:29 AM
The DL-T5-HD are most likely going to need a total Re-Write of software/Firmware, which is
Probably not going to happen unless someone takes it on to do it, and being support has stopped along time ago
Just my 2-cents

Does this means the end of the DL-T5, no TV?

dishuser
04-26-2024, 04:33 AM
Seeing the NFHD worked with an FEC of 3/4A in the past I would say it could be added to the list as well. My is hibernating in it's box at the moment. Along with a few other aging stb's.
needs to be verified...no?

auggie
04-27-2024, 01:18 AM
Does this means the end of the DL-T5, no TV?

Most of us new going into this hobby/testing etc. that it could Go BY BY at "ANY TIME" and I am amazed
that it has Lasted as long as it has, I am not going to Cry over spilled Milk as the saying goes, and we are not
Owed anything in return, You pays your money & Takes your Chances, or move on to the Next Best Thing that "MAY WORK"

My 2-cents Worth

dishuser
04-27-2024, 01:22 AM
Most of us new going into this hobby/testing etc. that it could Go BY BY at "ANY TIME" and I am amazed
that it has Lasted as long as it has, I am not going to Cry over spilled Milk as the saying goes, and we are not
Owed anything in return, You pays your money & Takes your Chances, or move on to the Next Best Thing that "MAY WORK"

My 2-cents Worth
that box lasted a decade so whoever has one definately got their monies worth

sat9182
04-27-2024, 02:09 AM
made in china . com and aliexpress .com have lots on jynks and knock offs available

squirtNcider
04-27-2024, 02:52 AM
But do you know which ones may actually work or is it a try and hope for the best scenario?
I agree, if its the end, it lasted way longer than I thought it would.

auggie
04-27-2024, 03:21 AM
But do you know which ones may actually work or is it a try and hope for the best scenario?
I agree, if its the end, it lasted way longer than I thought it would.

With all the changes/stuff going on it's a Guessing game or try and hope for the best "TESTING"
At this time I have a SV8000 working for the most part, how long will it last, is anybody's Guess ?

foresight
04-30-2024, 06:07 AM
needs to be verified...no?

Like the SV8K the NFHD was able to scan in the only tp that that had an FEC of 3/4A with 82W. Which was 12530. The DL always had an issue with this tp going back several years going by what others posted. Stands to reason if the NFHD scan it in under one it would scan in others with the proper adjustments with other tps.

As it stands right now at the moment my SV8K and NFHD are shelved. Because of a forced recent move I no longer have a dish up. Even with the dish up because of my location I was only able to locate and scan in 82W. I'm assuming that satellite was a lot stronger than 91W to be picked up this far outside the footprint. At any rate from what I have read 82W maybe a distant memory before long as have a lot of others and that will be all she wrote. As has been said years ago and has been said as of late. What may work today may not work tomorrow. A real shame as back in the day before beverly tighten the footprint I could get 91W with ease on a 18" dtv dish. Oh well life's about change and nothing stays the same. Just another in a series of changes that have gone on in the last twenty years. As for now I have ota and amazon prime. All I need at the moment.

blackjack
05-23-2024, 10:04 AM
I don't know too too much about satellite receivers specifically, but if they're anything like other stuff I've done firmware hacking on, a good place to start would probably be to dump the bootloader from the flash on the board, if such a thing exists, and figure out how it decrypts the bin. I only have one box right now and I'm using it so I really don't want to risk damaging it, so I'm not sure if I'll hack at mine at all.

squirtNcider
05-23-2024, 08:41 PM
If you need an old T5, I may have one if you want to mess with it. Don't have an extra power cord though. Just pay shipping and its all yours. Im in Ontario.

bad1
05-24-2024, 01:25 AM
I don't know too too much about satellite receivers specifically, but if they're anything like other stuff I've done firmware hacking on, a good place to start would probably be to dump the bootloader from the flash on the board, if such a thing exists, and figure out how it decrypts the bin. I only have one box right now and I'm using it so I really don't want to risk damaging it, so I'm not sure if I'll hack at mine at all.

You'd be a super star if you figured it out

intelpenny4
05-27-2024, 11:57 PM
if you want blackjack i could extract the bootloader and send it to you for you can play around with it. let me know

blackjack
05-28-2024, 10:39 AM
if you want blackjack i could extract the bootloader and send it to you for you can play around with it. let me know

If you're able to do that'd be incredibly helpful. I sent squirtNcider a PM as well but haven't heard back yet!

blackjack
06-08-2024, 12:22 AM
Got the spare T5 from squirtNcider yesterday - thanks a bunch. I'll keep y'all updated here as I poke at it over the weekend. Going to try to start by dumping the bootloader and firmware and see if I can make anything of it.

me1
06-14-2024, 06:30 PM
totally lost, way beyond me so i will admit i will be the lazy one and hope someone figures it out, if i had any clue what you guys are trying to do i would help but thank you a million times to all that are trying so hard to help fix this and to all that have done so for many years, i knew it was "pay your money and take your chances" and yes we are all upset when it seems over but like many have said it has been great so again a BIG THANK YOU!

blackjack
07-03-2024, 05:34 PM
Got super super busy with work, haven't had much chance to look at this yet.

I did discover that the EEPROM on the board contains pretty much nothing, I'm pretty sure it just tells the CPU where to start loading from the flash chip... I pulled the flash chip off the board, but I'm waiting for an adapter to come for that chip to work with my flash reader. After that, we'll see what's on it and if it can be modified in any way...

blackjack
09-17-2024, 11:54 PM
Well, I think we've hit the result that I was kind of expecting from the start - I can't read the chip. I don't know why. Maybe there's something wrong with my programmer; maybe there's something wrong with the Chinese adapter that took 2 months to arrive; maybe I destroyed the chip while desoldering it. I'm really not sure, but I'm betting on the latter. If somebody else who's handy at hardware can get a copy of the software from the flash and send it to me, I'd still be happy to look at it, and maybe even invest money into getting a blank chip or 2 to program for experimentation, but as it goes right now, I've just got nothing to work with. Sorry for the anticlimactic end to this little thread, but I figure a sad update is better than no update.

dennytoto
03-08-2025, 12:51 AM
So it's now March 2025....does the dream link t5 still work or should I get a Jynx??.....long time user but not good with the lingo

gig63
03-08-2025, 02:14 AM
T5 is done

JimmyZ
03-08-2025, 06:42 AM
So it's now March 2025....does the dream link t5 still work or should I get a Jynx??.....long time user but not good with the lingo

Sonicview 8000HD , NfusionHD , Junxbox or Jynxbox . Thats the only stb's that i know that are working but i am sure there is more if you do some research.

jets
03-09-2025, 06:13 PM
Sonicview 8000HD , NfusionHD , Junxbox or Jynxbox . Thats the only stb's that i know that are working but i am sure there is more if you do some research.

The Mega TV box also works but with it's own issues that are easy to overcome.