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TurboPirate
06-02-2010, 10:51 PM
Hello guys, I found a 12' BUD for the taken, I want some ideas because this is the bad news, the BUD is not bolted, it is all solder, aluminum, how can I take it apart to transport to it's new home? Have any of you done this, the owner lives in the mountains and roads are not the same as 30 years a go, to many telephone lines and trees in the middle, owner says he remembers clearly when he bought it, it was brought completely assembled and placed on the roof, I didn't have my camera with me so I took pictures with cell phone, once I figure it out how to move the photos from cell phone to desktop I'll update this thread.

Costactc
06-02-2010, 10:56 PM
Not quite understanding Turbo, is it a 12' solid? If it is, they dont usually come apart like a mesh bud.
Nice find Turbo, you would be a scanning machine with a dish that size.

TurboPirate
06-02-2010, 11:00 PM
Not quite understanding Turbo, is it a 12' solid? If it is, they dont usually come apart like a mesh bud.
Nice find Turbo, you would be a scanning machine with a dish that size.

12'feet mesh but it is all solder, only the mesh and the rear thingy that rotates can be removed.

Costactc
06-02-2010, 11:07 PM
What do you mean by the rear thingy, the polar mount or the actuator? If it's mesh then the panels should come apart, if by solder you mean they soldered the places where the bolts would go then you'll have to transport as is.

TurboPirate
06-02-2010, 11:25 PM
What do you mean by the rear thingy, the polar mount or the actuator? If it's mesh then the panels should come apart, if by solder you mean they soldered the places where the bolts would go then you'll have to transport as is.

The thingy is the circle behind the BUD metal not aluminum where the BUD travels and also hold the actuator

Costactc
06-02-2010, 11:31 PM
Thats the polar mount turbo. It won't help you for transport if it comes apart. Transport the dish as is, good luck with the elements and the terrain. Would be real nice if you could get a 12' dish up.

TurboPirate
06-02-2010, 11:45 PM
Finally figure it out how to upload photos from cell phone, here is the monster lol.

risk
06-03-2010, 12:32 AM
Turbo i really happy to see you with a BUD bud :comfort1: seein that thing you hav there. . .man it looks wicked, the manufacture seemed to have made sure that dont wrap as easy with ALL that 'bracketry', would love to know the weight of that. . .you NEED a good HD jack for that thign also.

but as costactc said. . .move it as it is. . .even if i could pull it apart i wont. . .thats to much.

love it!

Terryl
06-03-2010, 02:20 AM
The best way to transport that one is to take off the LNB arms and get a truck with a lumber rack, make yourself a frame out of some 2X4's and transport it on top of the rack face down, try to ceter it as best as possible, make sure you use some good straps to make sure it doesnt fly off.

You may need a lead and follow car to keep someone from getting in the way.

TurboPirate
06-03-2010, 04:36 AM
The best way to transport that one is to take off the LNB arms and get a truck with a lumber rack, make yourself a frame out of some 2X4's and transport it on top of the rack face down, try to ceter it as best as possible, make sure you use some good straps to make sure it doesnt fly off.

You may need a lead and follow car to keep someone from getting in the way.

I'll try this idea, first need to find a truck to carry it...............ty all

Terryl
06-03-2010, 04:42 AM
Make shure the road has enough clearance to get the dish home, and I can't stress the fact to tie it down realy realy well and the frame you make to hold it is tied to the lumber rack realy realy well, we dont want to hear about any problems.

Also take the back roads as you wont be able to go very fast with the dish on top like that, and if it's tied down realy realy well you wont get a ticket from some hiway patrol guy.

Bowhunters
06-03-2010, 05:13 AM
Congrats Turbo, that dish looks huge.

Looks like you got some great info on moving it.

Great pics also, excellent quality for cell phone pics.

Costactc
06-03-2010, 03:35 PM
Sweet looking bud Turbo. Your actuator needs alot of work and may not be salvagable.
Terrys' idea for transport is probably your best bet unless you can get a huge truck up there. Also, as Terry stressed, must be strapped down well.
Wishing you all the luck buddy, I hope you manage to get it up and running.

TurboPirate
06-03-2010, 06:51 PM
Congrats Turbo, that dish looks huge.

Looks like you got some great info on moving it.

Great pics also, excellent quality for cell phone pics.

It's a Samsung GT-S5230 really don't like the cell but it did the job when I was without my camera.


A neighbor told me if he marks the dish he can unsolder it and make it in 4 pieces like the other buds disassemble carry it to it's new home (my Mom's house) and there he can solder it back. He worries of the fact that where the BUD is right now the roads aren't to wide to travel it, it can get stuck with neighbor's fences or mail boxes. The way he is mentioning this is like taking a round cake (here we go again with cakes again lol) and cutting it into 4 identical slices.

Bowhunters
06-04-2010, 04:09 AM
I've never heard of anyone cutting a BUD up into pieces but if your neighbor has done it or knows someone who has then maybe it is doable, if its made out of metal tubing it can be cut and welded back together after its moved.

Where is a 'Rent a Helicopter' when you really need them. LOL

StanW
06-04-2010, 10:04 AM
You can't unsolder an aluminum weld... Your neighbour is probably talking about grinding of the welds and than rewelding it - good idea. Instead of taking it apart into 4 parts I would suggest just cutting it in half. Less work and fairly easy to transport.

Costactc
06-04-2010, 05:09 PM
Buds are alot more versatile then solid dishes. They take abuse and keep providing. Looking forward to future posts with your bud Turbo.

Gold
06-04-2010, 06:44 PM
If I was close me & the boys would sure give you a hand. That's a nice dish

StanW
06-04-2010, 10:33 PM
If I was close me & the boys would sure give you a hand. That's a nice dish
..... you're just eyeballing that actuator :lol

Costactc
06-04-2010, 10:34 PM
That jack is going to need alot of attention, looks like a VonWeise 36".

risk
06-04-2010, 10:35 PM
That jack is going to need alot of attention, looks like a VonWeise 36".

boy, would i love a 36 right about now. . .

remember to take heaps of pics for us turbo :)

StanW
06-04-2010, 10:36 PM
Well looking at Turbos' photo #4 looks like that dish don't move much :D ... looks like it's locked on 1 sat , with steel cables .

Gold
06-04-2010, 11:41 PM
Well,
I know someone who can help

http://www.hipolitodesigns.com/Players/InPersonItem/Lou-Ferrigno-Incredible-Hulk.jpg

StanW
06-04-2010, 11:47 PM
... he's wearing a jock strap :D

TurboPirate
06-05-2010, 01:19 AM
Lots of photos for you guys indeed.

I am sure my neighbor meant to grind the welds but you know my English lol.

The actuator is a Von something

It has some steel cables to hold it down because owner has a panic attack that a hurricane will blow it from the roof and will kill someone.

There is a Hulk here in PR but he is 60 something years old, so he is not a good choice for help.

Stan idea of instead of 4 slices just in half is liking me more, ty

lol I think I added and answer all of the replays. If I missed one let me know.

I just remember one, lol, the actuator I was thinking of checking it out real quick, if I see to much deterioration I wont bother and will get a new one for sure.

Gold
06-05-2010, 01:26 AM
Beano posted a link to a satellite magazine on another board.

I pulled these photos out of it. Maybe it will help.

I can't tell if it uploaded or not. I have been having a lot of trouble on Satfix the past couple days.

Nope didn't work. sorry

TurboPirate
06-05-2010, 01:29 AM
Beano posted a link to a satellite magazine on another board.

I pulled these photos out of it. Maybe it will help.

I can't tell if it uploaded or not. I have been having a lot of trouble on Satfix the past couple days.

Nope didn't work. sorry

If you can upload photos, then use a photobucket and use the image button above.......................

TurboPirate
06-05-2010, 03:02 AM
Just to get ready, where do I have to aim this Bud when I get it UP? I heard is to true south but have no idea yet.

Bowhunters
06-05-2010, 07:59 AM
Just to get ready, where do I have to aim this Bud when I get it UP? I heard is to true south but have no idea yet.



Go to #2 - Install the actuator


http://www.geo-orbit.org/sizepgs/tuningp4.html#anchor805243

In the picture you can see the mount that is bolted onto the pole, that mount needs to be pointed as perfectly south as possible, they show the N, S, E, W underneath that mount in the picture, use a compass if you aren't sure of exact south.

From the pictures you provided your mount looks different (might be home made) so it might be a good idea to take a compass with you when you go up on that roof to take the dish down and find out which part of the pole mount aligned best for the south reading.

I would take a white marker or lead pencil (something you can see) and mark the spot on the pole mount for the south reading and other items like elevation bolts current settings and anything else you feel you need to as most everything will be set the same at your house when you put it back up so having things marked may save you considerable time.

Gold
06-05-2010, 11:57 AM
I always set mine up just like a Ku dish.

My True South is 92.2°, so I use 91 G17 as my reference. On 91 G17 "The CW" TP's come in at 100%

I max out the Arc (...on the dish itself...) & move it very very slightly to the left (...About a degree, since I am a degree off of 91...) & lock it down. It takes two people for me. I stand behind the dish while my wife bumps the actuator, with the VBox. When she gets to the peak, I have her do fine adjustments...Maybe 1 or 2

Then I mess with the dish until I get the strongest signal I can...Then I fiddle with the LNBF Until I max it out...I may have to go back & forth adjusting the dish & LNBF a few times. My wife may have to bump the dish...I may have to loosen the bolts on the polar mount so I can swing the dish. A lot comes in play on any motorized dish

What's your True South Turbo?