Two dp plus

[jd1024]

I have a muiltude of dishes but I want to use two dp plus. I know in each dp plus has an lmb in for a single lmb input. I know the DiSEqC is built in switch so i cant use another one. what to do?

[Mavrick]

If you are only hooking up 1 receiver then you can either use a SW-21 or 22KHz switch to combine the feeds from each LNB to the receiver, if using 2 receiver just add another switch and run cables from the other port on the LNB's.......

[jd1024]

your the man! thanks!

[jd1024]

wait so how would the diseqc settings in the reciever work out.

[Mavrick]

You would still use Diseqc 1 & 2 for each side of each LNB, other settings would depend on what switch you choose to use......

[jd1024]

alright i guess i will deal with that when it comes.

[Mavrick]

If you tell me what switch your going to get and what sats you want to grab, I can give you an example of what the settings would look like (as it would depend on how you hooked everything up)........

[jd1024]

I'm not sure which switch I'm going use. I'm reading up on the switches to see which one is better for me.. Right now I'm trying to get 82 91 locked in with good quality on both. I get 91 at 95% but 82 goes bye bye. Its' gotta be a skew adjustment. Its really pissing me off haha

[StanW]

I'm not sure which switch I'm going use. I'm reading up on the switches to see which one is better for me.. Right now I'm trying to get 82 91 locked in with good quality on both. I get 91 at 95% but 82 goes bye bye. Its' gotta be a skew adjustment. Its really pissing me off haha
Just use a sw21 or 22khz ecoda, as suggested above . Assuming that you are after 110/119 with the 2nd lnb the settings ( with the exception of sw21/22khz) will be the same as for 91/92..

Whats the problem with skewing a dish ? Get a lock on 110 and 119 comes in by turning the dish a la steering wheel.

[Le_Gnome]

Here is what Nickburnz did in 2006 when he set up the same way as yours. The receiver settings shown are from a CS receiver.

The Ecoda tone switch can only handle 275 mA. So it could give you problems.

[jd1024]

I mostly having problems locking in 82. 91 is locked in perfect right now.

[The Wufman]

Depending upon how many receivers you will connect;best switch recommendation for (2) Dpplus lnbs would be to use a DPP44....If you are using only one receiver you will have power issues causing erratic switching,etc.....most fta receivers won't supply adequate power to one dpplus let alone two of them

[jd1024]

I've heard about that and yes I have one reciever and its a nano2, Ive heard they arent very powerful.

[Mavrick]

I'm not sure which switch I'm going use. I'm reading up on the switches to see which one is better for me.. Right now I'm trying to get 82 91 locked in with good quality on both. I get 91 at 95% but 82 goes bye bye. Its' gotta be a skew adjustment. Its really pissing me off haha

If you decide on the SW-21 make sure you get the DN Brand SW-21 as they are a good quality switch, with a SW-21 your settings would look something like this depending on what side of the switch you used for each LNB..........

119 > Diseqc 1 > SW-21 Dish1
110 > Diseqc 2 > SW-21 Dish1
91 > Diseqc 1 > SW-21 Dish2
82 > Diseqc 2 > SW-21 Dish2

For a 22KHz switch they would look something like this, again depending on what side of the switch you used for each LNB........

119 > Diseqc 1 > 22KHz ON
110 > Diseqc 2 > 22KHz ON
91 > Diseqc 1 > 22KHz OFF
82 > Diseqc 2 > 22KHz OFF

You can try this but as Wuf said there could be a powwer issue.

[The Wufman]

If you have an old dn receiver lying about that still works you can try connecting it to the other unused ports of each lnb and keep it powered on...it might provide enuff power to operate both lnbs alongside your fta receiver...still tho with that setup recommend the DPP44 for best results...make certain it comes with power inserter if you go that route

[kiryjuan]

I'm not sure which switch I'm going use. I'm reading up on the switches to see which one is better for me.. Right now I'm trying to get 82 91 locked in with good quality on both. I get 91 at 95% but 82 goes bye bye. Its' gotta be a skew adjustment. Its really pissing me off haha

I know the sat 82 is very hard to pick on many state of USA.

[jd1024]

Alright. You guys rock.. I'm going to try both more than likely just for fun.

[jd1024]

I know the sat 82 is very hard to pick on many state of USA.

Yeah I've noticed. I find the other ones and have them locked in with my meter in minutes.

[Mavrick]

If you have an old dn receiver lying about that still works you can try connecting it to the other unused ports of each lnb and keep it powered on...it might provide enuff power to operate both lnbs alongside your fta receiver...still tho with that setup recommend the DPP44 for best results...make certain it comes with power inserter if you go that route

Is there a certain switch that's better for splitting the sub-cable going to each unsued port to supply power?

[The Wufman]

Is there a certain switch that's better for splitting the sub-cable going to each unsued port to supply power?

Best to use a SW21(DN brand) for subs..JMO

[jd1024]

so i tried using the DN SW21. I get perfect 95% 95% to 110 119 when i have my reciever set SW21 Dish2 but 91 on dish 1 is no existant. I flip ports setting 110 119 on dish 1 and it still gives 95% 95% but no 91 on SW21 dish 2. lol

[Mavrick]

so i tried using the DN SW21. I get perfect 95% 95% to 110 119 when i have my reciever set SW21 Dish2 but 91 on dish 1 is no existant. I flip ports setting 110 119 on dish 1 and it still gives 95% 95% but no 91 on SW21 dish 2. lol

Are you sure 91 is aimed properly? Remember you also have to use Diseqc-settings with 91 & 82 like you do with 110 & 119.

Run the 91 LNB direct to the receiver by-passing the switch and test again, if it works then it might be the power issue Wuf mentioned.

[jd1024]

I gave up on 82, but I got 91 110 119 locked in at 95% 95%. Diseqc settings are the same on each port 2 110 port 1 119 port 1 91

[jd1024]

I need to ground that switch huh

[jd1024]

grounding didnt help. I guess its time for ddp44

[Mavrick]

grounding didnt help. I guess its time for ddp44

Did all the sats work ok when you by-passed the switch?

Another thing you can try is turning the LNB-Power off on the sats that your not watching, this could help with the switching if you don't want to go with the DPP-44.

[jd1024]

Im just going to get a ddp44

[The Wufman]

Im just going to get a ddp44

still recommend you ground even that switch since it uses so much power..JMO...But then again i always tell people to ground all switches as I do myself and have little to no issues with any setups I've done

[Gizz-Moes]

Sense you already have this switch I would use the SW-21 for your setup. Very reliable, I have set up many even with the problematic “DP-Plus” with no problems.

I believe Wufman was referring to the DPP44 switch when he mentioned power problems?
And as he said the DPP44 with power inserter is a good but more expensive option. This is also one of the only reliable options if ever wanting to use more than two receivers.

First I would make sure all your antenna settings are correct, and your dish skew, elevation, and azimuth is correct for your location. If still no luck it’s most likely an aiming problem.

From your postings it sounds like the LNBF “eye” on your 91/82 dish that should be seeing 82 is seeing 91.
The “eye” that should be seeing 91 is seeing nothing.
If this is the case try moving the dish very slightly to the west.

Hope I didn’t confuse you, I have attached a PDF diagram I made awhile back.
It shows “Twins” but set the same for “Plus’s”

As they say, pictures are better than words.

Good luck,
Gizz

[jd1024]

I believe Wufman was referring to the DPP44 switch when he mentioned power problems?
And as he said the DPP44 with power inserter is a good but more expensive option. This is also one of the only reliable options if ever wanting to use more than two receivers.

Yeah I got one already and it works perfect.




First I would make sure all your antenna settings are correct, and your dish skew, elevation, and azimuth is correct for your location. If still no luck it’s most likely an aiming problem.

From your postings it sounds like the LNBF “eye” on your 91/82 dish that should be seeing 82 is seeing 91.
The “eye” that should be seeing 91 is seeing nothing.
If this is the case try moving the dish very slightly to the west.

I'm 100% sure I have it right. I have 82/91 setup the same way as 110/119.



Hope I didn’t confuse you, I have attached a PDF diagram I made awhile back.
It shows “Twins” but set the same for “Plus’s”

That's nice but I don't have two receivers.