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carneiro
07-15-2010, 07:39 PM
Hello all. I am new here. I have some FTA experience and know most of the lingo , so I am not a complete NewBie.

My problem is that I just reset my 33" fta dish with a KU Lnb to pick up the Galaxy 19 bird. I was previously setup at AMC4 101w in order to get RTPi.

It was a few millimeters east of where I was pointed and bam I had signal. Problem is, my signal does not reach over 28%. I have tried skewing and realligning, and I cannot get better than 28%. I did a scan and I can watch tv, (many foreign channels on this bird). But I do get flickering and pixelation on RTPi, of course the one I watch.

I have my dish mounted at the same location(side of house) that I had it at for the AMC4. My signal strength there was spotty as well, (different times of day different levels). I have a clear view of the the sky. Nothing in the way. The dish is mounted 20 feet high on the side of my house. No trees no houses nothing. The only thing presently in the line of site is power lines about 200 feet away from my dish.

Is the G19 a difficult bird to get good signal on? Do the power lines have anything to do with my problems? Please give me some suggestions.

Costactc
07-15-2010, 07:58 PM
G19 is slightly more difficult than most linear ku sats but with a 33" dish you should be getting better quality. If you were spotty at 101 as well it means your dish isn't tracking the arc as well as it should be. You need to skew your dish and try changing elevation as well. What part of the world are you in, may need a bigger dish.

Terryl
07-15-2010, 08:02 PM
Try TP 11836V with an S/R of 20765 FEC set to 3/4, this will give you PIT as the sat ID, it is a strong TP.

And I hope you meant "Q" as the signal "S" is an indication of the like strength between the LNB and receiver.

If your "S" is that low you may have a bad connection, coax or switch.

carneiro
07-15-2010, 08:16 PM
I am in central california. clear blue sky to the south east of me. how do I get the arc any better? From the front of the dish I skewed the lnb base to the left, 7 oclock poistion looks like this from the front facing sky /.

signal is in the 90% range. Quality is in the 25% range.

Costactc
07-15-2010, 08:21 PM
Before tweaking your dish try the the tp mentioned in previous post by Terry and tell us your signal quality first.

carneiro
07-15-2010, 08:47 PM
I will try that transponder and let you know what I get. What do you men by tweeking my dish??

Terryl
07-15-2010, 08:53 PM
I will try that transponder and let you know what I get. What do you men by tweeking my dish??


Tweeking, moving the dish up, down, left, right, clockwise, counter clockwise (skew / \) ever so slightly (1/4 " to 1/8") to get a better "Q" on the receiver.

Bowhunters
07-15-2010, 09:00 PM
According to Satbeams for central California for that satellite your skew should be set to around 28 degrees.

What city, town you at?

Terryl
07-15-2010, 09:04 PM
I am in central california. clear blue sky to the south east of me. how do I get the arc any better? From the front of the dish I skewed the lnb base to the left, 7 oclock poistion looks like this from the front facing sky /.

signal is in the 90% range. Quality is in the 25% range.

I too am in central California, but up in the Sierras, I use a 39" dish and get a "Q" of 90% on the TP I posted, one minor error on my part, it will say "PITCOMM" for the sat ID not "PIT" as I originally posted, sorry about that.

Once you have adjusted the dish the best you can (Tweeked) up, down, left, right for the best "Q" you will have to adjust the LNB's skew (\) for a higher "Q"
this should be done very slowly as the receiver has to react to the changes.

Once you get it lined up use a magic marker or sharpy to put witness marks on the mount, LNB and dish, this will help you find the satellite again in case the dish gets moved.

carneiro
07-15-2010, 09:14 PM
Tulare california. 45 miles south of Fresno.

My dish does not have a Skew on it

Costactc
07-15-2010, 09:16 PM
Skewing your dish or lnb in your case is done manually outside by the dish.

carneiro
07-15-2010, 09:34 PM
I have learned that the proper skew should be the 7o'clock position. So looking at the dish from front to back it sits like this /. That is correct right?

Costactc
07-15-2010, 09:38 PM
Varies with each lnb, there is never an exact spot for your lnb to be. Your best bet is to have somebody monitor inside while you try for better quality. You could also take your stb outside with a small tv and do it by yourself.

carneiro
07-15-2010, 09:42 PM
Terryl

When you say the sat ID says pitt com. Did you do a blind scan?? I am using a Fortec Lifetime Ultra receiver that does not have the Galaxy 19 satellite listed. I had read that the G19 replaced the G25 so i used it and added the 12060H transponder and di a scan. Like I said RTPi and a gazillion other international channels showed up but the quality is bad .

Costactc
07-15-2010, 09:53 PM
The name of the sat is irregardless. As long as your settings are correct for 97w and your dish is pointing there then you'll pull in channels. From the sounds of it, you need to tweak your dish a bit.

Terryl
07-15-2010, 10:00 PM
Pitcomm will tell you your on the right TP and bird and not on some other bird, then you can skew and adjust the dish for a better "Q".

This is why I look for this sat on that TP when setting up a new system.

carneiro
07-16-2010, 12:26 AM
Ok I tried TP 11836V and the best quality I received was 58%.

I tweeked and skewed for an hour. Even changed cables straight to the receiver. 58% is the best I can get on that TP.

So as expected, my levels on the 12060H for Rtpi never went above 30% therefor I am back to square one.

havenlyskyhigh
07-16-2010, 12:58 AM
check your pole with water gauge do it alingement if not you've bad s/q.

Costactc
07-16-2010, 03:34 PM
Ok I tried TP 11836V and the best quality I received was 58%.

I tweeked and skewed for an hour. Even changed cables straight to the receiver. 58% is the best I can get on that TP.

So as expected, my levels on the 12060H for Rtpi never went above 30% therefor I am back to square one.

You may want to get a bigger dish, 39"-48" will pull it in real well and if you slap a motor on it you'll pull in channels on about 20 sats. I'm watching rtpi on Hispasat and Intelsat 505 as well.