what switches do i need?

[risk]

ok guys fta is one thing but DN has they own stuff and i need some direction.

here is my setup and 'the why' i would like to hook it up this way.

Vip222 HD unit (dual tuner)

6' channel master
invacom quad polar lnb and also an aspen eagle lnb (currently usin this)

The why - i would like to view both 110 and 119 with out having to move the dish.

i have been readin a bit and im not fully understanding what i will need or if it will be able to work without have to use DP LNBs.

was also looking at the sw21 switches which state it combines signals from two sats which is what im looking for but will i need more than this for each tuner?

Question: are DP LNBs specailly made for DN dishes only or can i strap them to my dish and get them to work?

[Terryl]

The FTA LNB's don't play too nice with DN receivers, it's best to use a DP or DPP twin LNB (or a dish 500 with LNB) with a DN receiver, this way you can feed both inputs to the DN receiver from the LNB and watch 2 different satellites (110/119) at the same time.

You could also use a DPP44 switch and run your linear LNB into the FSS input (port #4) and run output #3 or #4 to your FTA box. (the DN receiver will not see the linear LNB)

[risk]

think you kindda misunderstood what i need to get and what dishes i can and cant use for my location.

i cant use any of those 'lil' pizza dishes that dish has unless they make a 6 footer. . .this setup is for dish only so no need for fta or linear sats.

unless the dpp LNBs can work with my CM 6' i wont be able to use it.

[DizzyDen]

Any LNB can work on any dish.... it has no idea what reflector you have it attached to.

You might have to fabricate mounting brackets or something, but if you get it mounted.. aimed at the center of the dish... it will work.

[risk]

Any LNB can work on any dish.... it has no idea what reflector you have it attached to.

You might have to fabricate mounting brackets or something, but if you get it mounted.. aimed at the center of the dish... it will work.

i meant the positionin of the twin lnbs may hav been spaced specially for the shape of 'dish' dishes, not that they cant work on other dishes.

my 6' holds the lnb by the neck. . .


if all this seems to be more work than profit i will just have to up the jack and bump the dish a few degrees. . .

[Mavrick]

What you can try is straping both LNB's together to make a poor-mans-dish (see pic below) this works for the smaller dishes but I'm not sure if it would work on 6' footer. (If in the West then the 119 LNB would be lower than 110 not higher)

You would also need 2 SW-21 switches to combine the feeds from each LNB to both tuners on the sub (see pic below).

I belive you would just use the 2 circular ports on the invacom but as Terryl said your sub may not like that LNB.

[risk]

thanks mavrick, usin the sw-21 switches was what i thought i needed but i just needed a confirmation :D

i will give this ago and let you guys know in a bit.

[risk]

before i go get the sw-21 switches i have this question.

the receiver came with a triplexer (175284) switch. . .

would this operate like a sw-21 switch but with the added capability for ota?

[Mavrick]

before i go get the sw-21 switches i have this question.

the receiver came with a triplexer (175284) switch. . .

would this operate like a sw-21 switch but with the added capability for ota?

No, that switch can only be used with a DP-Plus LNB or DP-Puls Switch.

[0dd Thomas]

What you can try is straping both LNB's together to make a poor-mans-dish (see pic below) this works for the smaller dishes but I'm not sure if it would work on 6' footer. (If in the West then the 119 LNB would be lower than 110 not higher)

You would also need 2 SW-21 switches to combine the feeds from each LNB to both tuners on the sub (see pic below).

I belive you would just use the 2 circular ports on the invacom but as Terryl said your sub may not like that LNB.


before i go get the sw-21 switches i have this question.

the receiver came with a triplexer (175284) switch. . .

would this operate like a sw-21 switch but with the added capability for ota?


NO!
Im sorry this type switch and even your DISH and the sw21 will not make this setup work, all Dp have a built in switch in them and do not need a sw21, it would only be used if you were connecting both Bell and DN together to one satellite stb.
Asfor mounting a porrmans setup on the 6' Dish, you can forget it, either it has a center feed horn, or an off-set arm the distance is completely different than any DN 22-1/2" Dish, or even a Superdish.
there is a reason for wht works on a IRD VP222 Dual reicever stb, It actually needs a Dish500 Dishpro plus lnb to work correctly as a IRD. And the dish arm is no longer thn 11-1/2" from the center of the dish pan itself., and a (sperator switch) with looks like a little sw21 but is not, it seperates the two signals for the dual IRD.

I know it would be nice to test this, but what you have will not work as I helped write the book on DishPro and PLus LNBFs. So all you need to make this work is a simple Dish500Dp twin or plus LNBF on it, and a seperator switch w/a switch leg.
sorry
0dd

[risk]

NO!
Im sorry this type switch and even your DISH and the sw21 will not make this setup work, all Dp have a built in switch in them and do not need a sw21, it would only be used if you were connecting both Bell and DN together to one satellite stb.
Asfor mounting a porrmans setup on the 6' Dish, you can forget it, either it has a center feed horn, or an off-set arm the distance is completely different than any DN 22-1/2" Dish, or even a Superdish.
there is a reason for wht works on a IRD VP222 Dual reicever stb, It actually needs a Dish500 Dishpro plus lnb to work correctly as a IRD. And the dish arm is no longer thn 11-1/2" from the center of the dish pan itself., and a (sperator switch) with looks like a little sw21 but is not, it seperates the two signals for the dual IRD.

I know it would be nice to test this, but what you have will not work as I helped write the book on DishPro and PLus LNBFs. So all you need to make this work is a simple Dish500Dp twin or plus LNBF on it, and a seperator switch w/a switch leg.
sorry
0dd

funny you should say all this while a guy on another forum has done what im askin about with a 6' and a 4' dish and LNBs which are NOT 'dish' LNBs. . .so im gonna buy the cheap switches and give it a go. . .cant hurt anything by doin it, so why not?

you may hav wrote the book on dish LNBs but im not usin that stuff. . .i hav also stated i CANT use a pizza type dish from my location UNLESS 'dish' makes them in a 6 foot model.

thanks for the advice anyway ;) but in the light of testin it has to be tried :D