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Gamer
08-13-2010, 08:22 PM
c/p By Bill Emes

The stage is set for Saturday's light heavyweight unification between WBC full champion Jean Pascal (25-1, 16KOs) and undefeated IBO/WBC-interim champion Chad Dawson (29-0, 17KOs). The HBO televised main event takes place at the Bell Centre in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

Both fighters were in top form. Dawson stepped on the scale and came in at a ripped and ready 174.1-pounds. The hometown hero, Pascal, was 174.2. Pascal has come a long way since losing a decision to Carl Froch in 2008. Dawson has a point to prove after fighting nothing but Antonio Tarver and Glen Johnson since 2008.

KIDWCKED
08-13-2010, 08:51 PM
Iv'e seen Pascal fight before and he is very energetic in the ring..The fight being in Montreal might work in his favour as well..Thanx Ramon!

aquariusone
08-14-2010, 12:50 AM
Iv'e seen Pascal fight before and he is very energetic in the ring..The fight being in Montreal might work in his favour as well..Thanx Ramon!

I have a funny feeling that Pascal may upset the applecart!

zoink
08-14-2010, 04:37 AM
I have a funny feeling that Pascal may upset the applecart!

I've seen Dawson versus some good fighters that I thought he would lose to, and he's managed to outbox them, Pascal is gonna have to bring it cause Dawson has a tough chin. It should be good fight, I think pascal will bring his "A" game. I still have Dawson by decision.

hemanthjava
08-15-2010, 01:42 AM
Watch Jean Pascal vs Chad Dawson Live Stream, Replay Video Highlights here. The boxing light heavyweight title Jean Pascal vs Chad Dawson fight video dubbed as “The Road to Dominance” is set to take place on August 14, 2010 live at the Bell Centre in Montreal, Quebec.

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aquariusone
08-15-2010, 04:03 AM
Well, as I predicted, PASCAL upset the applecart tonight. Jean Pascal is the new IBF/WBO champ inflicting Chad Dawson his first loss in 10 years!

rokko
08-15-2010, 04:27 AM
Well, as I predicted, PASCAL upset the applecart tonight. Jean Pascal is the new IBF/WBO champ inflicting Chad Dawson his first loss in 10 years!

hated to see dawson go out like that. seems he just could not pull the trigger

sliman
08-15-2010, 04:37 AM
Well, as I predicted, PASCAL upset the applecart tonight. Jean Pascal is the new IBF/WBO champ inflicting Chad Dawson his first loss in 10 years!

by TKO or decision?

zoink
08-15-2010, 05:37 AM
by TKO or decision?

By decision, i'm disappointed in Dawson, when you're in opponents turf and you have him stunned, you have to finish him. It's good that he loss, maybe this fight will light a fire in him and he can start knocking these guys out the way light heavyweights are supposed.

This exactly what happens when you fool around with mediocre fighters, they ruin your night.

Fibroso
08-15-2010, 12:11 PM
Well, Pascal was going down, time, the fact that he used his head and the local doctor's decision gave him the fight. A rematch, maybe somewhere else (Vegas) will have a different outcome. Enjoy the victory while it lasts. Congrats :okay:

aquariusone
08-15-2010, 03:07 PM
During his interview with Larry Marchant, Dawson sounded like a sore loser. To the question as to why he would not follow up after rocking Pascal with a powerful left during some of the earlier rounds, his reply was "He was head-butting me all night!".

I am not sure where that came from, except from the shock of losing for the first time. He certainly does not know how to behave graciously.

I did not see any "intentional head butting" as he and his manager later claim. In any fight between a southpaw and a conventional boxer, a clash of heads is always a risk because of natural movements. Pascal was hurt in the 11th round and was in a survival mode when the accident occurred. Someone in that state is incapable of a "conscious intent" to head butt. The resulting gash above the right eye was so big that blood was rushing into Dawson's eye. Had the fight been allowed to continue, there was no way he could have seen through that eye. The ringside doctor made the right decision to have the fight stop.

Pascal fought a tactical fight, as confirmed by the color commentators Steward, Lampley, and Marchant. He was brilliant in his attack and connected more than 90 power punches, most of them flush in Dawson's face. He was winning the 7 of 10 rounds before Dawson finally caught him with good combinations before the accident.

Even if the fight were allowed to continue, I do not believe that the outcome would have been different. Pascal would have had time to recover and with Dawson's demeanor during the entire fight, only a miracle KO would have reversed the outcome.

His lack of concerted and sustained offense was his downfall. He manufactured a silly excuse for the loss and sounded more like a pampered spoiled little brat instead of a gracious sportsman.

Fibroso
08-15-2010, 03:27 PM
In my time to take away Championship belt from a boxer you had to beat the hec out him or ko him. You can't detrone a champ that way ,in a local head but decision. They should have let them finish the fight even if his eye would drop to the canvas. We are talking about ONE more round. I've seen fights with worse cuts and the boxer has fought 5 to 7 rounds bleeding to death.........:noidea:

rokko
08-15-2010, 04:45 PM
if you watch the fight again particularly the head butt both fighters are coming forward. dawson is taller, what was his head doing down in that area. when dawson would let his fists go he was on top.pascal kept a little to the left which i believe was enough to frustrate dawson and make him miss. for whatever reason dawson just would not pound pascal when he had the chance.ref did the right thing stopping it. to much blood he would not have been able to se

Fibroso
08-15-2010, 05:39 PM
if you watch the fight again particularly the head butt both fighters are coming forward. dawson is taller, what was his head doing down in that area. when dawson would let his fists go he was on top.pascal kept a little to the left which i believe was enough to frustrate dawson and make him miss. for whatever reason dawson just would not pound pascal when he had the chance.ref did the right thing stopping it. to much blood he would not have been able to se

Cut men are pay for this kind of situation. Stop the bleeding,they are experts, this would have been accomplished in minutes. The fight would've continue and Pascal would've been KOed. That's what the ref.,the canadian judge, the doctor the public and you saw

Gamer
08-15-2010, 05:55 PM
I have to agree with you fibroso on this because I have seen worse cuts allowed to continue.This was a matter of hometown ref and doctor protecting there figther from taking a chance of being koed.I do believe dawson lost the fight on decision but I did not agree with the stoppage.He hurt pascal just before the headbutt and probably would have knocked him out given the chance.Jmo

rokko
08-15-2010, 05:56 PM
they would have to finish the 11th before the cut man could touch him.by then pascal would have opened up the cut even more

Gamer
08-15-2010, 06:13 PM
We will never know that for sure but thats what should of happened.The fight should of continued and dawson allowed to defend himself and if not then ref would of stopped it.This was a championship fight.Just turn this around the other way what if pascal got cut with the headbutt and was losing on the cards.Do you think they would of stopped the fight?No way that would of happened.

aquariusone
08-15-2010, 10:19 PM
Second guessing officials when a favorite is denied a win is a natural reaction. We all want our man to have every chance in the world to prevent a loss. However, officials' (in this case a physician) greatest responsibility is not to meddle with, or influence, the outcome of a competition. It is to protect an athlete against serious injury.

We are now only guessing what 1 remaining round would have done for Dawson, had the fight been allowed to continue. We can all speculate that He would have KOed Pascal.

Unfortunately, what is the probability of that? What could Dawson do in 1 round what he could not do in 10 rounds?

A knock-out probability in this case would have been similar to a man holding 4 consecutive spades with only one card to show hoping for a royal flush against a guy already with 4 aces - hardly worth the risk of an "all-in".

Sadly, Dawson did not accomplish what he said he would do (dominate from round 1) and did not show the stuff his fans expected. He lost because of that.

Gamer
08-15-2010, 10:39 PM
I would understand that is dawson was falling from a beating but that is not the case.I have seen bloodier cuts and they have allowed to fight and then if the ref does not see he can defend himself then you stop the fight.This was an obvious hometown advantage and in one one round many things can happen.Dawson was also a champion and he should of got the benefit of that last round.Aqua did you not see how pascal was rocked just before the headbutt? All I am saying that is if pascal was the one cut and losing on points do you think this fight would have been stopped? I doubt it they would of given him the last round to knock him out.

Chigaro
08-16-2010, 12:16 AM
Really a judgement call from the officials. It was a bad cut, in a bad location and the way it bled, looked really bad. 10 minutes of anticoagulants and pressure stopped it, so it's hard to say. Clearly it would have bled badly right into his eye if he was allowed to fight.

I hear what everyone is saying, Dawson look like he hurt Pascal and JP was gassed. Too bad we'll never get that last round back.

All in all, Dawson looked like an old fighter, worried about pulling the trigger and punching. Another fight like that and he could be washed up as a big name. He should have beat Pascal last night.

aquariusone
08-16-2010, 12:50 AM
I would understand that is dawson was falling from a beating but that is not the case.I have seen bloodier cuts and they have allowed to fight and then if the ref does not see he can defend himself then you stop the fight.This was an obvious hometown advantage and in one one round many things can happen.Dawson was also a champion and he should of got the benefit of that last round.Aqua did you not see how pascal was rocked just before the headbutt? All I am saying that is if pascal was the one cut and losing on points do you think this fight would have been stopped? I doubt it they would of given him the last round to knock him out.

I can understand how you feel Amigo. At least this is not like the Diaz-Malignaggi when the Mexican judges gift-wrapped the 1st fight in favor of Diaz although he was badly out-pointed by Paulie.

Hometown advantage is to be accepted. It is everywhere. I agree in part that it would have been interesting to have allowed Dawson to continue. And I also agree that Pascal was hurt. The point however is that Dawson, instead of fighting like a Champion that he was, waited until "desperation time". That 11th round surge was like the act of a dying bull. He spent great energy in that last attack before the cut. It is all conjecture now to say what he could have done with blood in his eyes. I am personally inclined to think that that whole episode would have sapped all his strength and energy; that Pascal would have survived the round; that the 12th round would have been similar to the previous rounds; that the outcome would not have been different.

Chad Dawson has all the looks and skills of a great boxer but the Chad Dawson we saw last night is only a shadow of the Dawson that dominated previous opponents. Actually, his last outing with Glen Johnson was not impressive either.

Fibroso
08-16-2010, 12:17 PM
I can understand how you feel Amigo. At least this is not like the Diaz-Malignaggi when the Mexican judges gift-wrapped the 1st fight in favor of Diaz although he was badly out-pointed by Paulie.

Hometown advantage is to be accepted. It is everywhere. I agree in part that it would have been interesting to have allowed Dawson to continue. And I also agree that Pascal was hurt. The point however is that Dawson, instead of fighting like a Champion that he was, waited until "desperation time". That 11th round surge was like the act of a dying bull. He spent great energy in that last attack before the cut. It is all conjecture now to say what he could have done with blood in his eyes. I am personally inclined to think that that whole episode would have sapped all his strength and energy; that Pascal would have survived the round; that the 12th round would have been similar to the previous rounds; that the outcome would not have been different.

Chad Dawson has all the looks and skills of a great boxer but the Chad Dawson we saw last night is only a shadow of the Dawson that dominated previous opponents. Actually, his last outing with Glen Johnson was not impressive either.

It is easy to talk or speculate about whats happening in the ring when you're not the one up there. Pascal was done, Dawson carrie him to the slaughterhouse and he went in like a lamb. The head butt was part of the strategy used by the challenger, he knew what was coming. I can criticize that cause I would've done it myself but the fight should have continued giving Pascal an edge but Dawson an opportunity. After all he was the champ. Did you see the small cut in Pascal's head on top of the forehead, don't tell me he didn't used the head to protect himself. He smaller yet he was looking down when the collision and no punching movement was executed. Anyway, a rematch is on the way somewhere, other than Montreal, lets see what happens when you don't have all the peep on your side.

rokko
08-16-2010, 04:43 PM
not wanting to speculate i watched the fight again. after the butt dawson could have kept fighting but he chose to cry to the ref who was then obligated to have the doc look at it.if he had heart he would have continued fighting. dawson is the one who quit