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FAMILYGUY
08-13-2010, 11:23 PM
Just got a Dish 1000.2 and went to set it up but no matter where I turned or moved I got no quality, could the LNB"S be shot or does the box not have enough power?
Mavrick
08-14-2010, 12:13 AM
It could very well be a power issue. That LNB needs alot of power to run (600ma if I remember correct), if you have a sub receiver connect it to port 1 and keep it turned on, a powered DPP-44 switch will also do the trick if you don't have a sub.
Make sure your using the proper TP's for aiming.....
119 - 12297 (Diseqc 1)
110 - 12224 (Diseqc 2)
129 - 12516 (Diseqc 3)
The diagram belowe shows which LNB grabs which sat. Ignor the port settings at the bottom, these are the defaults when the internal switch gets turned off when using a DP switch.
FAMILYGUY
08-15-2010, 07:44 PM
What do you mean leave it turned on? I have a viewsat ultra tried that but no quality and if I run the switch it will give me enough power?
funya
08-15-2010, 07:51 PM
Some sat receivers have enough power to run em. If it is a power issue than having the 2nd box hooked up and turned on will give it more power.
It would be rare to have dead lnb's. Probably just a pointing issue. Even if it is a power issue, you will still have enough power to get signal.
Just set the dish low in the sky and SLOWLY! move it from side to side then raise it a 1/4 inch or so and sweep the sky again --rinse and repeat-- till you start to see something above 80% signal and then you have to tune in the quality. Be patient finding sats is tedious.
funya
08-15-2010, 07:58 PM
Just so you know your reviever puts out 500ma worth of power and the 1000.2 lnb uses 600ma.
FAMILYGUY
08-15-2010, 07:58 PM
I got the 80% signal its just with my other dish when I was moving I would at least see movement of the quality, now when I move it there is nothing, SLOW or not, should I just keep trying or do I need to try the DPP44 switch, which is pretty expensive, its more than I paid for the dish.
funya
08-15-2010, 08:10 PM
You only need a way to add power to the lnb. Mavrick is probably right when he said power issue. Do you have a 2nd receiver?
FAMILYGUY
08-15-2010, 08:12 PM
Yes I have a couple. Do I connect both and if so how?
funya
08-15-2010, 08:22 PM
Just like mavrick said. Hook a box to input 1 and leave it on. Then hook your veiwsat to number 2 and turn em both on. Then your lnb has the required power.
I made this from a 12v power supply I got at goodwill. And I use it so I don't have to have multiple boxes turned on.
funya
08-15-2010, 08:24 PM
I just realized something. I don't think the 1000.2 has an internal switch. You need to have a diseq switch with this dish.
funya
08-15-2010, 08:31 PM
Most 1000.2 dishes' do have an internal switch and one lnb in. You should be good unless your lnb is labeled otherwise. Try adding a 2nd receiver and scanning the sky. Let us know how you end up.
FAMILYGUY
08-15-2010, 08:40 PM
How exactly do you add a second receiver? I guess I would need another cable? And how did you make that, pretty crafty.
funya
08-15-2010, 08:48 PM
All I did was took apart the plastic case, drilled a hole and hooked it up with a soldering iron. 12v - 1000ma center is +
Yes you are right a 2nd wire is needed.
FAMILYGUY
08-15-2010, 08:57 PM
Or I guess I could just get the DPP44 switch, I also kept my old twin LNB's, only problem is it dont fit the mast of the dish, Is there anywhere I could get the part that connects the mast to the lnb?
funya
08-15-2010, 09:10 PM
Go to ebay and search for dish 500 y
Mavrick
08-16-2010, 12:17 AM
Hooking up just any 2 receivers will not necessarily solve a power issue, the LNB will only draw from the strongest receiver (not both receivers), that is why a sub works best as it puts out more power than FTA receivers. Check the back of your "spare" receivers and if one puts out more power than the one you are using then hook it up and leave it turned -on, if it puts out the same or less power than the one you are using then there is no point in hooking it up.
Mavrick
08-16-2010, 12:20 AM
Or I guess I could just get the DPP44 switch, I also kept my old twin LNB's, only problem is it dont fit the mast of the dish, Is there anywhere I could get the part that connects the mast to the lnb?
You don't need the entire switch, if you can get your hands on the power-supply from the switch then that alone would work.
FAMILYGUY
08-24-2010, 11:34 PM
If I just got a power supply would I still need to cables or will I be able to power up with just the one I have?
Terryl
08-24-2010, 11:41 PM
You need 2 cables as the FTA receiver will not work through the power supply.
Power supply to LNB port 1, receiver to LNB port 2.
FAMILYGUY
08-24-2010, 11:46 PM
But if I got the DP44 switch with it then could use my normal cable from box to switch then a smaller cable from the switch to the LNB?
Mavrick
08-25-2010, 12:01 AM
But if I got the DP44 switch with it then could use my normal cable from box to switch then a smaller cable from the switch to the LNB?
If you got the DPP-44 with the power supply (and you plan to use the switch) then connect the power supply to output port #1 on the switch, and as Terry said put your FTA receiver on a different port than the power supply.
Terryl
08-25-2010, 12:52 AM
The reasoning behind all this is that an FTA receiver puts out 13 to 18 volts to control the LNB polarities, a Dish receiver doesn’t, all it does is send out a DC voltage to run the LNB, when it detects a DPP 44 switch (or other DP DC powered switch) this voltage is shut down, this keeps the Dish receivers power supply from dead ending into a DC block* and burning out. (*input to the DPP power supply)
An FTA receiver can’t detect this and will still send the DC control voltage; the power supply will eventually have problems as the DPP power supply does not pass the DC voltage on to the LNB(s), this is why the DPP power supply needs to be on it’s own coax to port 1 of the switch or LNB, the FTAS receiver then has to be on it’s own coax to port 2, 3 or 4 of the switch or port 2 (or 3) of the LNB.
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