Need help with new laptop win 7 x64 bit

[railbird]

HI I recently had my win xp computer break...I just bought a laptop with win 7 x 64 bit ...I connected cat 5 cable and get no audio/video..I have internet connection sharing enabled...what do I have to do??....It was working fine with my previous laptop...I even did a factory default and installed from scratch using 614 then newest w/f pgm file....Also The static IP address is not holding and I am not getting lights on the cat 5 cable that is in my laptop......please Help...Thanks

[basementlinx]

Have your tried another cable also are your drivers installed for your network adapter

[railbird]

Hi The cable is fine it worked a few days ago...with my win xp laptop..What do you mean about drivers..???..Thanks

[Terryl]

What are you trying to do? Use it as a bridge to a receiver?

[railbird]

I have one end connected to wf and the other into my rj45 connection on my laptop..It worked fine with win xp...now with win 7 I cannot get it to work, there is no light flashing from the end in my laptop, like there was before with win xp...

[Terryl]

Go to your "Network Connections" click once on the WIFI interface then right click, this will bring up a second menu, select "Bridge connections" and select the LAN card, this should enable the WIFI to bridge the Internet to the LAN card.

[railbird]

Thanks but do I still do this.???.I am not using a router..I have free public wi-fi near me..I just hace cat 5 cable connected from wf to laptop..I have allow others to share connections checked..???...Thanks...Btw is that "NETWORK AND SHARING" in win 7??

[railbird]

What my main problem is that I am not getting lights flashing on the connection to the cat 5 end connected to my laptop..It is fine on the other end that is connected to the WF...what could be missing or what do I need to do..Like I mentioned it worked fine with my old win xp computer..Please Help...Thanks

[Terryl]

OK, I don’t have the setup you have so this tutorial will help you better then I on this.


http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Using-ICS-Internet-Connection-Sharing

And this to setup a bridged connection.


http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Add-a-connection-to-a-network-bridge

Just copy and paste to your browser

[railbird]

Thanks but I checked what the link said and all those settings were done..I have no idea why it is not seeing the ip on my computer and there is no flashing lighst on my w/f cat 5 connector to laptop...Please any other help??

[Terryl]

Do you have internet access through the WIFI connection?
If YES then what is the IPV4 (IP) address of the wireless connection. Please post the address if there is one

He should PM that to you, it would be a bit dangerous to post that on this world wide forum, too many dingbats out there to take advantage of it.

[santana007]

He should PM that to you, it would be a bit dangerous to post that on this world wide forum, too many dingbats out there to take advantage of it.

Yes, I suppose you are correct but I meant the LAN address assigned to the wifi card not the WAN address.
I asked the question just as we did in a similar extensive post which got resolved yesterday. In any case a PM would be the prper route to follow. I will delete that post and send a PM.

[santana007]

Thanks but I checked what the link said and all those settings were done..I have no idea why it is not seeing the ip on my computer and there is no flashing lighst on my w/f cat 5 connector to laptop...Please any other help??

After much searching, I found this site on home networking:
http://www.home-network-help.com/internet-connection-sharing.html
which deals with ICS in Windows 7 specifically here:

http://www.home-network-help.com/windows-7-internet-connection-sharing.html
Perhaps this will help.

[Ben Doon]

it is very important to make sure you are using a crossover cable,not a standard straight through cable. i see what you are attempting to do and without a cross over cable the send is going to send and receive is going to receive so there is no communication between the lancard on the laptop and the wf

[0dd Thomas]

sorry but I think the problem is in WIN7 and sofar there is no fix available yet....only XP works with this type of configuration to the WF.
sorry for the news but I have tested this on both my laptops after I installed WIN7 on my newest HP6000 and cannot get the sound to function.
But the HP4000 with XP seems to work just fine, maybe some one knows of a fix now, but I have not read of one yet.
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[santana007]

sorry but I think the problem is in WIN7 and sofar there is no fix available yet....only XP works with this type of configuration to the WF.
sorry for the news but I have tested this on both my laptops after I installed WIN7 on my newest HP6000 and cannot get the sound to function.
But the HP4000 with XP seems to work just fine, maybe some one knows of a fix now, but I have not read of one yet.
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I have Vista Home Premium on my HP laptop with ICS on the WIFI card, Straight Thru Cat 5e to the fta box and works fine. Windows 7 Starter Edition does not have ICS but the other editions are supposed to have it. My daughter's HP laptop has Windows 7 with WIFI but I can't get my hands on it right now. One difference in Win 7 is that the address assign to LAN card e.g. is 192.168.137.1 instead of 192.168.0.1 as in previous editions.
I have suggested in a PM to check that the LAN card is enabled in Manage Network Connections in the Network and Sharing Centre

[railbird]

Hi I am not sure what you mean to have lan card enabled...??....I am not using a router setup...I connect with wifi and in my network connections box
I have the source that is connected to wifi netgaer shared..there is another connection that says Local Area connection.network cable unplugged... please advise ...thanks

[santana007]

Hi I am not sure what you mean to have lan card enabled...??....I am not using a router setup...I connect with wifi and in my network connections box
I have the source that is connected to wifi netgaer shared..there is another connection that says Local Area connection.network cable unplugged... please advise ...thanks

Enabled means that it is functioning or working. Right click on Local Area Connection and in the box that opens see if it says Enable or Disable

[Mavrick]

Hi I am not sure what you mean to have lan card enabled...??....I am not using a router setup...I connect with wifi and in my network connections box
I have the source that is connected to wifi netgaer shared..there is another connection that says Local Area connection.network cable unplugged... please advise ...thanks


I had this same problem a few days ago, turns out that my LAN card was set to an IP that was already being used on the network I was connecting to with the wifi, so I was getting the same "network cable unplugged" message your getting..........

Go to network connections right-click on the Local Area Connection, then Properties, then highlite Internet Protocol then click the Properties button. It should pop-up another box with the options of "Obtain IP Automaticlly" or "Use The Following IP Address", which one is it set to?

[santana007]

Hi I am not sure what you mean to have lan card enabled...??....I am not using a router setup...I connect with wifi and in my network connections box
I have the source that is connected to wifi netgaer shared..there is another connection that says Local Area connection.network cable unplugged... please advise ...thanks

I now have my daughters HP laptop running Windows 7 Ultimate. It has an Intel WIFI card and Realtek Ethernet NIC. I have my Nfusion Phoenix working through the laptop using ICS. All I did was to make sure Local Area Connection was Enabled, connect ethernet cable to fta box and laptop. Then enable Sharing on the Wireless Network Connection and reboot the fta receiver.
The Local Area Connection has an IP address of 192.168.0.1 which is contrary to what I read earlier. The Nfusion has an IP address of 192.168.0.138 and is working.Simple and straight forward.
If you continue to get Network Cable Unplugged or a Red X beside Local Area Connection
then make sure the cable is properly inserted or try a different cable. As a test I removed the cable from the fta receiver and got the red X beside the Local Area Connection meaning cable is unplugged. I don't know what of receiver you have but maybe the NIC in the receiver is no good or the Dongle, if there is one, has come loose.

[railbird]

Hi maverick Thanks ...it is set to 192.168.137.1......I changed that IP to obtain automatic....what do I do next...I am still not getting connection to my laptop??...

[Mavrick]

Hi maverick Thanks ...it is set to 192.168.137.1...what do I do next...thanks


So it's set to "Use The Following IP Address" with this IP (192.168.137.1)?

If so lets first try to set it to "Obtain IP Automaticlly" and then re-boot everything and see if that fixes the "network cable unplugged" message.

[railbird]

It flashes Identifying then "X" unplugged then enabled....and repeats....I still am not getting any lights on the laptop end just w/f end...also my receiver is stuck on channel 200 and not scrolling..I know its not the cable it was working a few weeks ago with my win xp laptop and have not used it ..I was away

[Mavrick]

It flashes Identifying then "X" unplugged then enabled....and repeats....I still am not getting any lights on the laptop end just w/f end...also my receiver is stuck on channel 200 and not scrolling..I know its not the cable it was working a few weeks ago with my win xp laptop and have not used it ..I was away


Ok, what IP is the wifi getting when you connect?

[railbird]

Do you mean the IP that I get with my signal?...its 192.168.1.20...also i dont have sharing enabled on local are connection...it is on the wifi signal wireless connection



when i unplug cable it says netwok cable unplugged...when i plug it in ..it repeats what i said in prev post..

[Mavrick]

Do you mean the IP that I get with my signal?...its 192.168.1.20...also i dont have sharing enabled on local are connection...it is on the wifi signal wireless connection


Ok then, give your LAN the IP 192.168.1.150 and see if that enables it.

[railbird]

I changed ivp4 to ip you said...rebooted pc, and wf and receiver....receiver is still locked on channel....there is still no connection to laptop no lights on laptop end

[Mavrick]

I changed ivp4 to ip you said...rebooted pc, and wf and receiver....receiver is still locked on channel....there is still no connection to laptop no lights on laptop end

Do you have the INTERNET CONNECTION SHARING turned on for the wifi?

[railbird]

yes I do ...it does say shared......i dont have shared on local area connection

[Mavrick]

yes I do ...it does say shared......i dont have shared on local area connection


Hmmmm, I'm starting to think there is an issue with the LAN card itself. Right-click My Computer, then click Properties, then click the Hardware Tab, click Devise Manager, scroll down to Network Adapters and click the + sign and find your LAN card. Is there a yellow or red "!" on it at all?

[railbird]

it says its working fine ...there are no errors or x out......could it be the WF..???

[Mavrick]

it says its working fine ...there are no errors or x out......could it be the WF..???

I'm not sure, set-up the WF manualy and give it IP 192.168.1.200 and Gateway 192.168.1.150, re-boot and see if it connects to the LAN card.

[railbird]

Still no lights on cable to laptop.....local area connection still flashes..idenrtifying, enabled,unplugged,

[Mavrick]

Still no lights on cable to laptop.....local area connection still flashes..idenrtifying, enabled,unplugged,

How about up-dating the Lan driver in Device Manager.

[railbird]

it says driver software up to date..when I tried to update drivers

[Mavrick]

it says driver software up to date..when I tried to update drivers

Can you put something else on the end of the Cat5 besides the receiver (another laptop or PC), then see if you can get online.

[railbird]

do you mean connecting my laptop to another laptop with cat 5 cables??...I connected my laptop to another laptop the lights on the cat 5 to the other laptop were on and flashing...on my laptop still no lights..if that is what you meant...

[Mavrick]

do you mean connecting my laptop to another laptop with cat 5 cables??...I connected my laptop to another laptop the lights on the cat 5 to the other laptop were on and flashing...on my laptop still no lights..if that is what you meant...


Ok, spin the cable around and re-try and see if you get lights on the new laptop.

[railbird]

ok i did that same result...i also did that with switching ends on the wf..same result..so i know its not the cable...what next...btw I appreciate it very much for all your help..this is so frustrating why it was fine with win xp...and win 7 is such a pain in alot of ways that i am finding out with various things...

[Mavrick]

ok i did that same result...i also did that with switching ends on the wf..same result..so i know its not the cable...what next...btw I appreciate it very much for all your help..this is so frustrating why it was fine with win xp...and win 7 is such a pain in alot of ways that i am finding out with various things...

I don't know bud, I'm running out of ideas, did you get a help-number when you bought the laptop? Just watch what you tell them about the WF ;)

[railbird]

I dont know wheter to get a cheap xp computer online, or format this one and load xp..or if it is th WF itself...but it was ok before i went on vacation working with my now broke win xp laptop..if you thjink of anything else please let me know ..i need to take a break from this for now...

[railbird]

I can't believe this...I just tried the cat 5 connection to my wife's computer that has win7 32bit from the WF to her laptop.and the lights were flashing on the lalptop end connection..I guess there is something wrong with the rj45 connector on new laptop....

[Terryl]

You need a CAT5 (or 6) cross over cable (orange colored) to get the communications right between the two.

Can you plug your laptop directly into the router or modem via the LAN connection on the laptop and a CAT5 cable? (or a network switch?)

This will tell you if your LAN connector on the laptop is FUBAR or not, if you get nothing then it’s a trip back to the store were you got it.

[railbird]

HI here is the latest...btw no i dont use a router or modem...I re-did the wf..factory default then defualt wit 614 then 909 I have the ip that the wireless is attached to shared...then I also went to lan settings and set it to obtain ip automatically scanned sats...then did start upgrade.etc..the lights are flashing on both ends..i inputted the static ip then exit save ....I powered off receiver then on and now i still get no audio or video..what is wrong now???

[Terryl]

I cant help you with the receiver part, but now you have a working LAN port? Correct?

[railbird]

yes the lan port that the cat 5 is connected to is flashing...but i am not getting audio/video....i wanted to make sure my settings are right....should I keep the lan settings set to obtain automatically???

[purriocity]

I heard that on windows 7 you have to turn off your firewall for these settings to actually take place.Hope this helps

[railbird]

Ok thanks so I turn off windows...then set my wifi connection to shared, and change lan connection settings to Obtain IP automatically....then input my static ip address then network s/w upgrade then power off receiver off and on...IS that correct..?????

[railbird]

I did the steps I mentioned above and still get no audio/video...please help

[santana007]

I did the steps I mentioned above and still get no audio/video...please help

Look at the screen shots from my system (Vista). See if you can set yours up the same way. Use DHCP in your receiver's network settings if you can. Then reboot receiver I'll be away for the rest of the day. Will check back later. Good luck.

[railbird]

Thanks Buddy, but what do i put in the lan connection settings do I set it to the ip that you have circled in your img file?.. or what IP address do I put in.??.also what ip do i input in the DHCP settings,on the receiver?? remember I don't use a router...I always used static ip settings with my WinXP....one other thing do I have to disable Firewall??...thanks again for all your assistance.....


One thing I just noticed is that when I went to serial setup....on the DHCP screen./..there were all 0's....what does that mean.??..I remember there used to be numbers in there like the pre-assigned 192.168.0.1.....????

I also have upgraded to the latest s/w on the VS9000HD 909.....

[santana007]

Thanks Buddy, but what do i put in the lan connection settings do I set it to the ip that you have circled in your img file?.. or what IP address do I put in.??.also what ip do i input in the DHCP settings,on the receiver?? remember I don't use a router...I always used static ip settings with my WinXP....one other thing do I have to disable Firewall??...thanks again for all your assistance.....


One thing I just noticed is that when I went to serial setup....on the DHCP screen./..there were all 0's....what does that mean.??..I remember there used to be numbers in there like the pre-assigned 192.168.0.1.....????

I also have upgraded to the latest s/w on the VS9000HD 909.....

You actually don't need to enter any IP address's anywhere, at all, at any time during this procedure. All you have to do is check the box for "Allow other network users to connect through the computer's internet connection" as shown in image ICS #3 for the Wireless Network Connection and then click OK. That's it.All the rest is done for you automatically. Whatever IP address the Wireless Connection got from the hotspot will stay the same. Whatever IP address that is given to the Local Area Connection is determined by enabling Sharing on the Wireless Network Connection

If DHCP is chosen for the network settings for the Viewsat, an IP address is automatically entered for that as well as long as the cable is connected between computer and receiver. You don't need to enter anything here either. It's all done automatically.
You don't need to worry about a disabling a "Firewall" either. If you want to disable it, go ahead, it won't make any difference. I never disable mine.
All those ZERO's you have for the receiver's IP address means the receiver has no IP address at all and that's why your receiver doesn't work.
Try these instructions and see what happens.

[railbird]

I will try that when my wife is done using her computer...i will let you know..thanks

[railbird]

ok here is what happened i have wireless set to sharing i have the lan set to default which has ip 192.168.0.1......i powered up WF and checked DHCP still zeros...I tried putting static ip ....nothing....no audio video....what could be the problem.....the dhcp always used to have a pre-assigned number like 192,168.0.1...please help

[sump]

do you own the WIFI ( router) set up ?? have physical access ?

[railbird]

No i get my internet from free public access in my area Santana suggested to not use a staic ip address which always was fine with my win xp computer...it broke so i got a new one with win 7..ever since i have been having problems connecting...now i have noticed for some reason there are all zero's in the DHCP setup screen which always had a pre - assigned number which i was not concerned with..i used the static ip address setup....please advise

[santana007]

No i get my internet from free public access in my area Santana suggested to not use a staic ip address which always was fine with my win xp computer...it broke so i got a new one with win 7..ever since i have been having problems connecting...now i have noticed for some reason there are all zero's in the DHCP setup screen which always had a pre - assigned number which i was not concerned with..i used the static ip address setup....please advise

1) What is the IP address assign to the Wireless Network Connection on the Laptop computer?
2)What is the IP address assign to Local Area Connection on the Laptop computer?
3) Are you able to select a DHCP network setting on the fta receiver?
4) You keep referring to "WF" as in "i powered up WF". I don't understand what are referring to.

[railbird]

sorry i will try to explain....I did what you said....the wireless ip is 192.168.1.16 on wifes comp.. i have it set to shared....in the local area connection it is on 192.168.0.1...the DHCP box is all zero's..it was never liked that before it always had a pre-set numbver, as i said with my win xp computer i did not use cause i used the static ip set up..my concern is that something migh be wrong with th WF??...when I say powered up WF is that i meant i powered off and on the receiver....hope that helps..Again thank you for all your help...this win 7 is driving me crazy...it was so easy with win xp

[spannertanner]

Just share your internet connection. There should be no bridging required.

[railbird]

Ok my main concern is what i recently noticed abpout the WF..is that now i see all zero's in the DHCP..where as previously there were pre-assigned numbers...I want to know if that there is something wron with my WF??...Thanks

[sump]

sorry i will try to explain....I did what you said....the wireless ip is 192.168.1.16 on wifes comp.. i have it set to shared....in the local area connection it is on 192.168.0.1...the DHCP box is all zero's..it was never liked that before it always had a pre-set numbver, as i said with my win xp computer i did not use cause i used the static ip set up..my concern is that something migh be wrong with th WF??...when I say powered up WF is that i meant i powered off and on the receiver....hope that helps..Again thank you for all your help...this win 7 is driving me crazy...it was so easy with win xp


this may help you .. you will see that the beginning of this is good ..make sure that you have done all that ..

it will get you to where all the screens are ..

THe thing that will be different for you is that you will go to your WIFI connection and share that ..
then are going to the ethernet
the entry 192.168.137.1 is fine for you ..

do not fill in the DNS entry . click the box optain DNS automatically ..


http://www.dhnet.ufl.edu/getconnected/tutorials/wired/ics/xbox360_win7/

[railbird]

Thank you it is quite informative.....i will try that what i get a chance...just to make sure does the fact that the WF have all zero's mean that it went bad??....because there were numbers pre-assigned before....thanks for all your support

[santana007]

this may help you .. you will see that the beginning of this is good ..make sure that you have done all that ..

it will get you to where all the screens are ..

THe thing that will be different for you is that you will go to your WIFI connection and share that ..
then are going to the ethernet
the entry 192.168.137.1 is fine for you ..

do not fill in the DNS entry . click the box optain DNS automatically ..


http://www.dhnet.ufl.edu/getconnected/tutorials/wired/ics/xbox360_win7/

I watched the tutorial as well. When I set up ICS on my daughter's laptop, which runs Win 7 Ultimate, I did not need to go thru any of these steps. Sharing was setup on the Wireless Connection. I followed the same procedure as in Vista and XP. The IP address of the LAN connection was 192.168.0.1 not 192.168.137.1. I do not understand the difference in the IP assignment.
If railbird has an IP address of 192.168.0.1 on the LAN connection then I would like to suggest that a Static address of 192.168.0.2 be used on the fta receiver.
Similarly if the LAN address is 192.168.137.1 then perhaps a Static address of 192.168.137.2 should be used.

[railbird]

Guys i just want to thank you for your time and help..when i can i will test some more.........Please tell Me if the fact there are all zero's inthe DHCP screen Does that mean there is a problem with the WF.????...Thanks

[santana007]

Guys i just want to thank you for your time and help..when i can i will test some more.........Please tell Me if the fact there are all zero's inthe DHCP screen Does that mean there is a problem with the WF.????...Thanks

All zero's are not good. Doesn't mean that there's a problem with the receiver. When I was experimenting I got the same thing. Just means that the receiver didn't get an IP address assigned to it. Try using a static address in the receiver as I suggested above. Like I said before I'm not familiar with Viewsat. I use Nfusion so the networking set up might be different. Can't help you there. Maybe you should post in the Viewsat forum and ask for help concerning the network set up.

[sump]

I watched the tutorial as well. When I set up ICS on my daughter's laptop, which runs Win 7 Ultimate, I did not need to go thru any of these steps. Sharing was setup on the Wireless Connection. I followed the same procedure as in Vista and XP. The IP address of the LAN connection was 192.168.0.1 not 192.168.137.1. I do not understand the difference in the IP assignment.
If railbird has an IP address of 192.168.0.1 on the LAN connection then I would like to suggest that a Static address of 192.168.0.2 be used on the fta receiver.
Similarly if the LAN address is 192.168.137.1 then perhaps a Static address of 192.168.137.2 should be used.

Yes either one of these should work given the info at hand ..

that being said the default would be best unless there is an issue .. as it would be easier for someone else to help

[sump]

All zero's are not good. Doesn't mean that there's a problem with the receiver. When I was experimenting I got the same thing. Just means that the receiver didn't get an IP address assigned to it. Try using a static address in the receiver as I suggested above. Like I said before I'm not familiar with Viewsat. I use Nfusion so the networking set up might be different. Can't help you there. Maybe you should post in the Viewsat forum and ask for help concerning the network set up.


Yes i agree with these statements ..

for now let get the Networking figured out ..so the viewsat area will not have to go through all this again

[santana007]

This is just a thought. Railbird, your first post here was on Sept 15th. On Sept 14 a new file for your receiver, PFTAHDSW-100909H wf was posted. This for the Viewsat 9000HD Weather Forecaster. Have you upgraded to this latest file?

[railbird]

yes i did upgrade with 902 factory file and 909 pgm file......

[railbird]

To avoid any more aggrevation...i picked up a inexpensive Win xp comp...I setup everything and it is working fine.....thank you for all your support...

[santana007]

To avoid any more aggrevation...i picked up a inexpensive Win xp comp...I setup everything and it is working fine.....thank you for all your support...

Sometimes the simplest and cheapest things work the best and last the longest. Glad to here you're up and running again. Enjoy;)

[railbird]

Yes it cost a few extra bucks, but i was familiar with the setup with xp.and knew it would work with no problems...the way i figure it it will pay for itself if you know what i mean...Thanks again for all your help