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lpinoy
10-07-2010, 04:33 AM
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By;by Raymundo Dioses

Would we have seen Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather if Golden Boy Promotions and Top Rank weren’t involved? Plus, a look at how boxing fans are going to wish they could skip October, a funny quote from Pacquiao and the return of Through My Eyes in this week's edition of Ringside With Raymundo!

Upon my return from a New York vacation last week, I made my rounds and sniffed around at what I missed in the boxing world while I was gone.

There wasn't much news-worthy information that I missed, until I came across Oscar De La Hoya's comments regarding the current state of promotional entities in the sport of boxing.

First and foremost, if you think this is the first time the boxer-turned-promoter has said something shocking, you haven't been reading.

De La Hoya has gone into hot waters in the past, with an ill faded weekly column featured on ‘The Ring Magazine's online site, where he has aired out a public beef in the past with rival promoter Bob Arum, and subsequently was sued in court, (yet not only by this one, but many insinuations by him and his promotional company, Golden Boy Promotions) by Manny Pacquiao after suggesting in his post that Manny Pacquiao's punches felt "different" in comparison to Shane Mosley's and Floyd Mayweather's, as De La Hoya had faced all three in his career, and pretty much alluded that Pacquiao may have been on performance enhancing drugs.

Of all of his rants though, his latest may have been the chart topper in what has so far been a mostly successful promotional career which has sadly been coincided with ill-faded remarks that continue to piss off his rival promoters.

"The Don King's and Bob Arum's have had a chokehold on this sport for the last 40 years. They've been able to put great fights on; they've been able to promote the sport, yes, but I believe the days are long past of the way they of the way they promote. Now, we have to think outside the box; we have to think like the NBA and MLB and have one commission and one major promoter in the sport."

To the boxing community, this was the equivalent of Lindsey Lohan again entering rehab, as De La Hoya has regularly mislead with his comments, even saying earlier this year that the Manny Pacquiao/Floyd Mayweather fight was nearly signed, only to have the negotiations fail for a second straight time.
De La Hoya's track record isn't unblemished, and after these comments were made, some writers suggested a gag order be placed voluntarily by his own company to save from further harm.

Of all people who may have been offended by the remarks, there are a select group of people who are more hurt than most.

Other promotional companies.

While what De La Hoya said was a direct snap at his competitors, some of what he said makes sense from an outside perspective.

"My plan is not to take over boxing, but really do what no other promoter was able to do, and that is have unified rules and one commissioner and make sure the fighters is taken care of and is not cheated out of anything. That's one of the reasons boxing hasn't really taken itself to the next level, because we cannot make those big fights and a lot of times promoters are the ones in the way," said De La Hoya.

Having only one promotional company, such as with the UFC, could lead to the biggest fights being made, and at the behest of one person and one promotional company.

If this doctrine were in play now, it could have potentially provided a successful negotiation and signing of a fight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather. By having one company and one commission dictating fights, it would have been able to mandate Mayweather to face Pacquiao, or force the fighters into less profitable avenues.

While Pacquiao and Mayweather certainly could have opted to produce their fight independently via pay per view, as that fight is an easy sell no matter where and who produced it, their purses for the fight with one boxing entity would entice them to maximize their revenue, and corner them into fighting.

And that's what we all what, right?

Well, therein lays the problem, too much if's and possibilities, tension between promotional companies and the end result is no fight between the two best boxers in the sport.

While rivals promoters are dismayed at De La Hoya's remarks, which may negatively affect future business relations and possibly hinder more fights from being made in co-promotion in the sport, there needs to be a message sent out from the masses.

Fans don't care.

Boxing fans don't care that Golden Boy Promotions doesn't like Top Rank.

Boxing fans don't care that Floyd Mayweather doesn't like Top Rank head Bob Arum.

Boxing fans don't care that there is a tussle between the two companies as to the rights of Manny Pacquiao, and that the companies engage in lawsuit after lawsuit against each other.

The casual boxing fan doesn't even know that Oscar De La Hoya is essentially Floyd Mayweather's promoter, and doesn't even really care.

The casual boxing fan doesn't care if Mayweather made allegations that Manny Pacquiao used steroids, and that Pacquiao filed suit legally against Mayweather, and that Mayweather was demanding a blood test prior to a fight.

They just want to see fights in the ring, not in courtrooms and through the media.

lpinoy
10-07-2010, 04:34 AM
The powers that be have a preconceived notion that their own personal beefs are at the fore front of the minds of people who watch boxing.

De La Hoya, his company, and all other boxing promotions are negligent of the fact that boxing fans simply care not about the difficulties of making a fight, and have no pity on companies who fail to make the fights they want to see.

To fans, to have a fight not made due to the fighter's promotional companies is a slap in the face and is something that is bringing down the sport as a whole.

Honestly, if all the drama and behind the scenes discord didn't exist between Golden Boy Promotions and Top Rank, would we have seen Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather fight as originally planned in December 2009?

Probably.

Both TR and GBP have had their individual successes in the sport, and have left their indelible imprints by promoting some of the top fighters in the game during their runs.

Yet the individual disagreements between the promotional boxing companies that exist in the sport will also have to live up to the legacy of being the corporations who hindered the ‘greatest fight that never got made' in their illustrious history.

THE LONGEST OCTOBER EVER RECORDED

By looking at the fights scheduled for October as opposed to the white hot month of fights scheduled in November, one must ask themselves: can we just skip Halloween and get to Thanksgiving?

In October, there is very little to be excited about in the sweet science, and the thirty one days that is this tenth month of the year will be excruciating to get through.

Aside from a Lucian Bute showing against contender Jesse Brinkley and up and coming undefeated fighter David Lemieux scheduled for action on October 29, we've got Vitaly Klitshcko, who will make a lop sided title defense victory over the faded Shannon Briggs, Brian Minto and a slew of other bouts that wont gain much interest.

Oh, I'm sorry, did you fall asleep?

In comparison to what we are going to see in November when Rafael Marquez/Juan Manuel Lopez, Michael Katsidis/Juan Manuel Marquez and Manny Pacquiao/Antonio Margarito fight, aren't we all wishing we can leap frog into the action packed eleventh month of the year?

Aside from a few Telefutura and Showtime telecasts to at least keep us occupied until November, it's going to be a long thirty one days until Turkey time.

Hang in there, fight heads.

QUOTABLE

Strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza has had his hand in the uprising of Manny Pacquiao in the sport of boxing.

Ariza has Pacquiao on a strict isometric and plyometric routine, as well as many other exercises including running and even swimming.

To keep weight on his fighter, Ariza forces some 7,000 calories daily into Pacquiao's stomach. This produced a funny quote from the Pac Man in a recent article online, as Ariza relays what the welterweight champion says about eating.

"Manny tells me, ‘You know when I grew up, I never ate. Now I'm eating all the time and I'm miserable.'"

THROUGH MY EYES

It's good to be back in Cali! Home is really sweet for this boxing pen… First off, tabbing Glen Johnson as a replacement for Mikkel Kessler in the Super Six was genius. Johnson is an almost formidable veteran who is going to make things a little bit harder for the rest of the participants in the Super Six. Allan Green is going to get a boxing lesson and keep his zero in the points section when the two meet later this year. He is seriously a great pock, in my opinion. And when has the "Road Warrior" not been in an entertaining fight? Exactly… Fresh off my trip from New York, I am happy to hear that GBP is going to set up shop in Brooklyn, even though it wont be happening until the ‘House the Carmelo Anthony' built is erected in 2012. Trust me, that city doesn't mess around, so do be expecting $500,000 to magically disappear around Bed Stuy, home of that boy Biggie… Malignaggi inking with GBP is a positive for Malignaggi, and a negative for fight fans. Outside of being mildly entertaining against Diaz twice, he looked horrible and admitted it against Khan, but will still be able to stretch a few more decent paydays before a curtain call. What's that saying, don't hate the player?... I have to admit, I took a look at the Ricky Hatton/cocaine clip. He didn't look like no rookie doing the drug. Hopefully he can rebound for the sake of his family and his life, boxing should be the last thing fixed… I am going to receive my Lebron James Miami Heat jersey in the mail any day now, just in time for the season opener. I'm just hoping that there aren't any Lebron haters working for the Post Office…Can you feel it? Manny Mania is just around the corner. I like that Pavlik, Rigondeaux and Mike Jones are on the Pac/Margz undercard… By the way, I'm excited for November, how about you???