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Gamer
11-30-2010, 10:14 PM
c/p By Michael Marley

Back when he was a scrawny, teenager in Detroit with big boxing dreams and fascination with hometown heroes named Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Robinson, Emanuel Steward began to have an appreciation for the legend and lore of the sport.

Steward, who was a 1963 National Golden Gloves champion before he became a legendary trainer as the heartbeat of the famed Kronk Gym in Motown, speaks from that sensibility when he proclaims that the next fight for Manny Pacquiao should be a third bout against Mexican sharpshooter Juan Manuel Marquez.

Steward is not a promoter who only has his eye on the financial bottom line.

As an integral part, no make that a moving force, in the historic Sugar Ray Leonard-Thomas Hearns two bouts, Steward thinks that Juan Ma deserves a third crack at the Pinoy Idol.

Steward thinks posterity should be valued as much as profits in this ring rivalry.

Steward also thinks Marquez-Pacquiao III could produce real fistic fireworks, maybe more so than their two earlier bouts.

“I just don’t think the public is going to buy Manny against Shane Mosley right now, not after they saw Shane against Floyd Mayweather and then (Sergio) Mora,” Steward said by phone from Austria where he is fine-tuning Wladimir Klitschko for a Dec. 11 heavyweight title defense against Derek Chisora.

“Manny and Marquez is a big fight now, right now. I believe both Pacquiao and Marquez are their plateaus, at their fighting best, now which should make for a great third fight. If they can’t get together and make Mayweather-Pacquiao, then this is the fight that should be made next for Manny.”

Steward believes that Pacquiao jumping weight divisions and demanding and getting “catchweight” concessions from foes is “all played out by now.

“I think you see Marquez walking around about 138-139 pounds even though he can be 135 pounds two weeks before a fight and then weigh in at 133,” Steward said. “As for Manny, he was only 144 1/2 the day before the (Antonio) Margarito bout so they can work that out.

“Marquez and Manny both have something to prove, something they can only prove against each other.”

The first Leonard-Hearns bout, which took place Sept. 16, 1981, at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas the Ring magazine Fight of the year, a wild see-saw battle in which the surprise was Hearns outboxing Leonard and then Leonard outslugging puncher Hearns.

Ref Davey Pearl halted it in the 14th as Leonard swarmed and overwhelmed a wobbly "Hitman."

Though there was talk of a quick rematch, Leonard had eye problems (detached retina) and a few "retirements" before they squared off at the same location in 1989.

There was again plenty of excitment and a touch of controversy as it ended in a draw which most saw as favoritism for Leonard.

Judge Dalby Shirely called the 12th round a 10-8 round for Leonard. If he had made it 10-9 like his colleagues, Hearns (who had floored Leonard in rounds three and 11) would have won as split decision.

There never was a third bout as Hearns moved up in weight.

Certainly, the public would have bought Chapter 3 but it just never came to fruition.

gumby
11-30-2010, 10:26 PM
i wouldnt pay to watch that fight either...manny would kill him

KIDWCKED
11-30-2010, 10:48 PM
This fight's not even a possibility!Marquez is a lightweight champion no doubt.But Pacquaio is fighting the bigger boys now at 140 plus and seems comfortable.This would be another catchweight unworthy PPV in my mind and probably never will happen..Now if Juan's brother Rafael Marquez hadn't been beat by Juan Manuel Lopez perhaps he would have had his day Manny Pacquaio..Jmo!!

Fibroso
11-30-2010, 11:02 PM
Emmanuel is an expert on this, Manny has to go down to a catch weight of 140 pounds to fight Juan Manuel Marquez and clear this once and for all. Otherwise this is going to ruin his boxing career. Arum will take care of this or his reputation will be down hill. Catch weight for others to fight Manny but not the other way. Scared or what?????????.

Fibroso
11-30-2010, 11:08 PM
i wouldnt pay to watch that fight either...manny would kill him

Like he did before, Marquez is a boxer, no one is gone kill this guy. He'll retire when he feels he can do his job in the ring. The best mexican fighter pound for pound.

Gamer
11-30-2010, 11:19 PM
Emmanuel is an expert on this, Manny has to go down to a catch weight of 140 pounds to fight Juan Manuel Marquez and clear this once and for all. Otherwise this is going to ruin his boxing career. Arum will take care of this or his reputation will be down hill. Catch weight for others to fight Manny but not the other way. Scared or what?????????.

This is a arum quote from other article

"Well, there are two key things with Marquez that are important. One is their fight will be at 147 pounds. In other words, they are not going to fight at a catch weight. If they want a stipulation that Manny doesn't come into the ring weighing more than 150, that's fine. But it's stupidity to make this guy, who is the welterweight champion -- Manny -- go down to 142 or 143. Or to starve himself. The important thing is how much that they weight the night of the fight," Arum said.

Exactly what they did to cotto and margarito.

rokko
11-30-2010, 11:47 PM
manny doesnt have to go to 140.he is the ww champ.marquez has been beaten twice and has no bargaining power.let him fight at 147 or gtfoh. he fought floyd at 147 why not manny. maybe we can tie one of mannys hands behind him to make it even.

Fibroso
12-01-2010, 11:53 AM
This is a arum quote from other article

"Well, there are two key things with Marquez that are important. One is their fight will be at 147 pounds. In other words, they are not going to fight at a catch weight. If they want a stipulation that Manny doesn't come into the ring weighing more than 150, that's fine. But it's stupidity to make this guy, who is the welterweight champion -- Manny -- go down to 142 or 143. Or to starve himself. The important thing is how much that they weight the night of the fight," Arum said.

Exactly what they did to cotto and margarito.

Do unto others what you wont do unto you..........:innocent: :grr: