Info for 97 setup

[gwrowe]

Hi! guys need to know what I need in order to setup sat for 97W and what TP to scan first in order to get sig and Q

[StanW]

A linear lnb and a dish of 36" or larger would be a good starting point.

[audi2005]

Hi! guys need to know what I need in order to setup sat for 97W and what TP to scan first in order to get sig and Q

TP 11842 or 11867

[FARJOHN]

I am in Saswkatchewan and running a 39 in dish ,SG 2100 motor ,Invacom LNB , Fortec Mercury II . I have over 16 satellites in my ark.All come in great .I don't bother with any special TP when I do a scan . So I cant claim any TP as a should be scanned . The Fortec is set to scan all the TP's. 97W is about the easiest Sat to hit and will scan 250 channels

[gwrowe]

Tried to get this sat before here in ontario can't seem to pinpoint it.

[Terryl]

I use TP 11836V, with the S/R set to 20765 and the FEC set to 3/4.

When you pan around the 97W location and find this TP the satillite will ID as PITT, this will tell you that you are on the bird.

[Costactc]

Tried to get this sat before here in ontario can't seem to pinpoint it.

What size dish are you using?

[lme]

You can get here in ontario easy.

[gwrowe]

I have a 33" dish and dual Lnb linear and a sonicview 360 receiver. Can any receiver be used to receive this sat.

[sunny1000]

I have a 33" dish and dual Lnb linear and a sonicview 360 receiver. Can any receiver be used to receive this sat.

Hmmmm you said 33”, you need 36" dish or bigger 39” although you still be able to get it with the 33” dish but I think you will get a lower signal and quality if you go with small size of dish then with all the clouds and the bad weather your dish will star to drop S&Q and then you will start to drop channels and some tp with no good signal and that's why you have to use the right size of dish for each sat it's not about to get hold of that sat but it's about to get high S&Q

[gwrowe]

No wonder I have a hard time finding it! Have to see where I can get a 36" or 39" dish.

[Costactc]

Although a 33" dish is a bit small for G19, as long as your dish is spot on and your lnb skewed you should be able to scan all tp in easily. You may find a couple of tp difficult in bad weather.

[gwrowe]

Ok got a 36" dish going to try for it today and see what happens, will let you know how I made out.

[jvvh5897]

My 30 inch dish gets it just fine. Remember that the larger the dish the smaller the beamwidth (and higher the gain) and so pointing gets more critical--if you are having trouble pointing the dish you have, a larger dish might actually be more of a pain to get set. I always plan on hours to get a dish pointed the first time, but once you get a bird it usually is easier to find others (make a few marks on the EL and AZ to help you get back to a bird even if you do have scale markings for either). A 40 inch dish has close to a 1 degree beamwidth so you have to be really close to the correct aim before you start to see signal. Those 18 inch provider dishes have almost a 3 degree beamwidth and much stronger signal, so pointing them is a lot easier than real FTA dishes--but you can use those provider signals to aid you in pointing either by using a prov dish and learning how to point or by using a prov LNB on you bigger dish to get you close easier.

The more you know about parabolic dishes the easier things can be too. Figure out how much you have to move the LNB to move a certain number of degrees in look angle--that can give you a guide on how much you should move dish in a sweep for a signal and it is just a little trigonometry. Know the look angles for a given sat too, you can get a program to figure them out (though the spherical geometry is not that involved--a pain, but not that bad--I built my own routines to do it).

[gwrowe]

Also does the sonicview need a bin or any 3rd party s/w to run on Fta for 97?

[sunny1000]

Also does the sonicview need a bin or any 3rd party s/w to run on Fta for 97?
I have sv 360e and I have colsat 6100 I had much better result setting up my 97w on my coolsat perfectly and very easily with no trouble within 5 minutes adjusting time upon obtaining my skew and elevation from satpoint although I had my 36" oval dish out of the flea bay brand new with the lnb and including the shipping for $45.
Good luck with your project.
Note: no need for a third party sofware

[secheltpaul]

Although people use universal lineal L N B F ‘s with success I personally like using a STANDARD lineal L N B F. I find them easer to set up also universal are not necessary in North America.


Bigger the dish the better. I use a 36-inch dish with a motor and have a few stationary dishes also. Have had great luck using old star choice dishes. Mostly the 30x33inch round type also 18x36 star choice elliptical the duel L N B F ones from star choice.

Make sure mast dish is on is perfectly plumb. Important.

I take a small TV and my receiver right out to the dish but what ever works for you.
You could have some one watch the screen as you adjust. no TV’s or receivers in the rain.

Point the dish to where you think satellite is. I use a compass I got at Canadian tire to point me in the right direction in the sky. Then adjust elevation (up/down) degs. The scales on the dish are never right but it gives you some were to start from for now.
Now move the dish left to right really slowly a 1/16 at a time stop then a 1/16 and stop give it a second, and so on or right to left what ever works for you watch you meter closely, go back and forth up and down SLOWLY working a grid pattern and you will find it. I have tuned in dozens of satellites using this method. Use small tiny adjustments or you will miss it. DON”T STAND IN FRONT OF THE DISH when adjusting it like I did once.

Once you get a signal go back and forth up/down till you get the best possible signal. Then you need to adjust the L N B skew this is done buy turning the L N B right or left.
I adjust my L N B buy turning it slowly on way till signal drops off then the other way till signal drops off and set it in the middle or the strongest signal.
Once you have done all this and nuts, bolts and screws are snugged up you would exit the antenna setup page say yes to save the settings. Next go to main menu then installation then Blind scan and do a blind scan for this satellite. It will scan all the tp’s on this satellite.
On my viewsat receiver in the antenna setup page I would set my L N B to standard because I use a standard linear L N B
L n b freq to10750
Lnb power on
22 khz0ff
Tp freq to a strong tp on the sat your trying for to tune in on
Diseqc off
Motor off
Legacy sw none
You will get something. This is a much weaker signal then bell or dishnet and living in Canada we are on the fringe as most of these satellites are amid at the states.
Check this site out.xxxsatfinder.com

Good luck

[gwrowe]

Well I got it setup but got only 53% Q and 85% S and lost a lot of TP's got 44 channels out of 250. On a 36" dish.

[secheltpaul]

A little bit About Q and S

S- or signal strength is from the dish’s l n b f to the receiver it’s what’s coming down the cable. And……………
Quality is from the dish to the satellite. It’s what’s coming from the satellite to dish.


try a blind scan

[jam25]

after finding your signal,
skew the lnb in order to get all or most tp's
ok.

[jvvh5897]

Assuming the dish is well pointed and LNB skewed correctly, I'm wondering if the dish is still shaped correctly--that Q really is low for a 36 inch dish. I found that the cheap metal dish that I have had gotten deformed when it got knocked down in a big wind storm and I was able to correct it by removing it from the mount and putting it on a flat floor (with protective surface under dish) then gently rewarping it till the rim sat as flat as I could make it to the floor. Now, that might not be a good method for EVERY dish as not all are designed to have rim on a plane, but most are.

Course if you have good Q on other sats, then it is likely your pointing or skew.

[gwrowe]

As for the dish it is BN and as for skewing the the LNB I Did that also, I also forgot to mention that on one of the TP's I got Unknown Satellite, which I thought was strange. The other TP's that did have Q said that 97W was found.

[sunny1000]

As for the dish it is BN and as for skewing the the LNB I Did that also, I also forgot to mention that on one of the TP's I got Unknown Satellite, which I thought was strange. The other TP's that did have Q said that 97W was found.

So gwro are you doing this with your sv360e? and from my understanding you bought the 36 oval dish with the two inbs?

[gwrowe]

36" Oval dish and a dual linear LNB, for a 2 receiver setup, receivers are a SV360P and a viewsat Ultra.