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gusman
02-20-2011, 03:19 PM
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By Jake Donovan

The talent long ago suggested that Nonito Donaire was destined for greatness. All that he needed was the big wins to match the potential.

Saturday night provided that part of the formula, in a very big way.

Making his HBO-televised debut, Donaire confirmed his pound-for-pound credentials with an explosive second round knockout of unified bantamweight titlist Fernando Montiel on Saturday night at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.

Both fighters weighed in at the bantamweight limit of 118 lb.

Donaire was dominant in the early going, providing instant justification to the surprisingly high 2 ½-1 betting odds in his favor. Montiel tried to establish proper distance to land his right hand, but was instead rocked by a counter left hook over the top. Donaire’s precision punching also left the soon-to-be ex-champ with a nick over his eye.

Fortunately for Montiel, the cut would never become a factor.

Unfortunately for Montiel, Donaire’s punching power was a major factor.

The full effect of the Filipino’s punching power was felt late in the second. Montiel appeared to settle down and time Donaire, taking advantage of the rare moments when the Filipino would overcommit on a punch.

Yet it was a clean right hand by Montiel that would set up the fight altering blow. Donaire didn’t even seem to bother to get out of the way of the right hand, taking the shot and immediately firing back with a left hook that connected flush.

Montiel never saw the punch coming, and never regained his legs or senses. The shot caused him to pitch forward before pausing and crashing to the canvas, lying flat on his back as he twitched in pain.

To the surprise of nearly everyone, the Mexican veteran somehow managed to beat referee Russell Mora’s count and was afforded the opportunity to continue.

Donaire quickly took care of that, landing another left hook and a follow-up right hand on a defenseless Montiel. The third man recognized a finished fighter in front of him, jumping in to rescue Montiel from further punishment.

The official time was 2:25 of the second round – or exactly as long as Donaire believed the fight would last from the moment he was presented with the opportunity.

“I just came out there believing in this talent that God had given me. I actually predicted this second round knockout about three months ago,” claims Donaire, who has now won 25 straight dating back to his third pro fight nearly ten years ago.

The Filipino-born, California-raised blue chip talent improves overall to 26-1 (18KO), winning alphabet belts in a third weight class. The win is perhaps the most significant of his career, certainly no worse than right there alongside his breakout performance more than three years ago, when he iced then-unbeaten Vic Darchinyan in similarly frightening fashion.

A rematch between Donaire and Darchinyan was discussed on more than one occasion, but never came to fruition. The reasons for it not occurring depend on whom you ask, though it’s doubtful that Darchinyan will be in a hurry to chase a return bout anytime soon.

One rematch seemingly out of the question would be with Montiel, who loses for the first time in five years as he falls to 44-3-2 (34KO). Amazingly, all three of his losses have coincided with his three HBO appearances, having previously fallen short against Mark Johnson and Jhonny Gonzalez.

Montiel waited more than four years to return to the network, building up a 12-fight unbeaten streak in the process. The fight with Donaire came on the heels of a Fighter of the Year-level campaign in 2010, scoring four knockouts in as many fights, including a highlight reel fourth-round knockout of Hozumi Hasegawa to unify two belts at bantamweight.

All of that goes out of the window, as it’s now Donaire who sits atop the bantamweight division while awaiting his next challenge.

One potential opponent is the winner of the April 23 Showtime Bantamweight Tournament championship between Joseph Agbeko and Abner Mares. Donaire and Montiel were both kept out of the tournament by promoter Bob Arum, who preferred to simply match them head-to-head rather than tie them up in a round robin tournament.

It turned out to be the right move, as Showtime was forced to go to a four-man, knockout format that wraps up this spring, which means plenty of time to push for Donaire to face the winner, just one of the many scenarios he envisions occurring in his immediate future.

“I think that I want to be undisputed in this weight class. If that doesn’t happen, I have my absolute trust in (manager) Cameron Dunkin. If that comes at 122, let’s do it. If that comes at 126, let’s do it.”

Whatever course he takes, it will only add to his pound-for-pound credentials, even if in his mind he has virtually no shot at the top spot – at least not while another famous Filipino remains active inside the squared circle.

“I don’t mind being number two. I have the utmost respect for Manny Pacquiao. I’m happy being number two, if that’s what people want to call me. I’m happy and grateful for the people I have supporting me, that makes me number one with them.”

Eventually, Pacquiao has to retire – or even lose before then. Once either occurs, it’s no stretch to envision Donaire being viewed as number one in the eyes of a lot more than those currently supporting him.

gusman
02-20-2011, 03:42 PM
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gusman
02-20-2011, 03:43 PM
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rudee
02-20-2011, 05:07 PM
Totally agree,,, I was astonished at how easily he chased Montiel all over the ring and annialated him with one punch.... Montiel hadnt lost in 5 years and never been knocked out....
See how how big framed Donnaire is? He will go up to welterweight easy! Just like Manny did..
Juanma better steer clear of Donnaire.... Juanma has a weak chin. Donnaire is a terror. I never realized how fast Donnaire was.
Montiel never had a chance..
The Filipinos are killing the Mexican fighters... and usually Mexican fighters dominate this weight class.
Donnaire is right,, he is the second best pound per pound fighter in the world... might be 1st soon if Manny keeps fighting
the likes of Shane.

rudee
02-20-2011, 05:09 PM
Oh,, thanks gusman,,, great post!

Fibroso
02-20-2011, 07:31 PM
Totally agree,,, I was astonished at how easily he chased Montiel all over the ring and annialated him with one punch.... Montiel hadnt lost in 5 years and never been knocked out....
See how how big framed Donnaire is? He will go up to welterweight easy! Just like Manny did..
Juanma better steer clear of Donnaire.... Juanma has a weak chin. Donnaire is a terror. I never realized how fast Donnaire was.
Montiel never had a chance..
The Filipinos are killing the Mexican fighters... and usually Mexican fighters dominate this weight class.
Donnaire is right,, he is the second best pound per pound fighter in the world... might be 1st soon if Manny keeps fighting
the likes of Shane.

I agree that his big frame has been a factor in his success in 118 pounds, now we need to see how hard his punches will be in the higher weights. Don't know where you got your info from, but Juanma has never been ko and has stand a beating in the 12th round from Mtagwa without being ko. He's 30-0, that will be a good fight but I bet the Filipino's corner will postponed it for a while, and you know why.

rudee
02-20-2011, 07:54 PM
Hola...
I did not say Juanma has been knocked out... he has been down and i have seen him hurt on several ocassions.... Marquez had him hurt at least 3 times in the last fight..
Just about dropped Juanma... only his youth kept him up...
Juanma is very very good...
But if you ask me to put my car pink slip on
Donnaire or Juanma,,,
I would take Donnaire.... never seen him hurt... one punch knockout artist...
Reminds me very much of Arguello and Manny when they were at that weight...
Anyway,,, should be a great fight,,, and they WILL meet... thats all people are talking about... would not be a problem for Donnaire to go up... has wide shoulders... I dont even see how he stays at 118...
I am impressed by how articulate he is.... has learned his english very well.
Course he grew up here in Ca... very humble guy... like Manny and Arguello.
We agree it would be a hell of a fight, eh Fibroso?
Just sharing opinions... not much to talk about on the FTA scene...

Fibroso
02-20-2011, 10:11 PM
Rudeee, Donnaire is very good also but he needs to move up slowly. Fight some other guys on the way up. To put him in the ring with Juanma could be a mistake at the moment. The Puertorican has heavy hands and a terrible right hook that could easily ruin the Filipino's carrier. Ahh you said a weak chin, the guys he's fighting are way stronger than the ones Donnaire is facing. Must be aware of that fact. Montiel and him had the power to ko each other, Montiel made a mistake and paid for it, as we saw. It could've happen the other way around.

rudee
02-20-2011, 11:06 PM
Very true Fib, would have been interesting to see what Donnaire would have done if tagged by Montiel... seemed to me that Montiel was surprised by the aggressivness of Donnaire... he was getting into the fight when he got caught..
But in any event.. ya gotta be impressed by Donnaire.
Juanma is excellent... I cant wait for them to fight..
We need some good fights, we are in a lull.
Thanks for your input Fib.. always respect your opinion.

Fibroso
02-21-2011, 01:14 PM
How about a fight with Wilfredo Vasquez Jr. Could take place after he beats Arce. In the Manny Paquiao - Mosley showdown. That could be a good test of Boricua power for Doannaire.

gusman
02-22-2011, 02:05 AM
What a dent on Montiel's face!!!!!Looks like a broken cheekbone!

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/d0/fullj.18fdb6fa0d7a72b35b2ce70edb76b2d9/18fdb6fa0d7a72b35b2ce70edb76b2d9-getty-107958842em034_fernando_mon.jpg

rudee
02-23-2011, 01:32 AM
He hit him so hard his head almost came off.... kinda reminded me of the kid on the Exorcism, when the head spun around.
Donnaire is awesome for sure. Havent seen someone hit that hard with one punch at that weight in a long long time.
Maybe Ruben Olivares.

aquariusone
02-23-2011, 02:46 PM
He hit him so hard his head almost came off.... kinda reminded me of the kid on the Exorcism, when the head spun around.
Donnaire is awesome for sure. Havent seen someone hit that hard with one punch at that weight in a long long time.
Maybe Ruben Olivares.
I did not see the fight live but I saw it last night. On purpose I zeroed in on Montiel's face "before and after" and the picture above confirms that that indentation on the temple showed after he took that deadly left to the temple. That is scary. In addition, Donaire showed a lot of class and tempered the zealousness of victory. He was humble. I particularly appreciate what he said about "being #2". He has both deadly fists and a keen mind. It sets him apart from other pugilists. He keeps his cool and delivers his punches precisely. He owns the Bantamweight Division and he is set to mow down those in the higher divisions - regardless of what anybody says to the contrary.

Fibroso
02-23-2011, 03:52 PM
Please, with all due respect, the fight only lasted 2 rounds. Lets not start to elevate to godlike status another Filipino boxer. Without a doubt, he is very good in that weight class but I've seen many go up in weight and lose to lesser ranking opponents. I respect peeps opinion when there is sense in what they think. This was his first chance to shine on national tv and he did indeed. Lets wait to see how his boxing future develops before we speculate. ;)

aquariusone
02-24-2011, 01:58 AM
Please, with all due respect, the fight only lasted 2 rounds. Lets not start to elevate to godlike status another Filipino boxer. Without a doubt, he is very good in that weight class but I've seen many go up in weight and lose to lesser ranking opponents. I respect peeps opinion when there is sense in what they think. This was his first chance to shine on national tv and he did indeed. Lets wait to see how his boxing future develops before we speculate. ;)

DONAIRE'S RECORD - last several fights:
Fernando Montiel - 44-2-2 = TKO 2 rounds
Volodymyr Sydorenko - 22-2-2 = KO 4 rounds
Herman Marquez - 27-1-0 = TKO 8 rounds
Manuel Vargas - 26-4-1 = KO 3 rounds
Rafael Conception - 13-3-1 = UD
Raul Martinez - 24-0-0 = TKO 4 rounds
Moruti Mthalane - 23-1-0 = TKO 6 rounds
Luis Maldonado - 35-2-1 = TKO 8 rounds
Vic Darchinyan - 28-0-0 = TKO 5 rounds

Max Kellerman; Roy Jones Jr.; Nigel Collins, Editor-in-Chief, Ring Magazine; Case Keefer, Las Vegas Sun; James Slater, Eastside Boxing; Dan Rafael, ESPN; - They all say that Donaire has surpassed Sergio Martinez in the P4P ranking. (He was previously ranked 5th in the P4P ranking.)

What the hell have you got against Filipino boxers or other boxers ranked top in the world by every boxing experts? This forum has no room for "prejudice" against any country's boxers. You ought to edit your post!

Fibroso
02-24-2011, 03:04 PM
It sets him apart from other pugilists

This statement was the reason of my post. Sorry if you was offended or any other member of this forum. I'm from a small island and we have more boxing champions than any other nation in the world per square mile. Such as Sixto Escobar, Carlos Ortiz, Wilfredo Gomez, Chapo Rosario, Samuel Serrano, Chegui Torres, Tito Trinidad, Miguel Cotto, Juanma Lopez, Papito Vasquez and many more to come. I don't know what prejudice is, apparently you do, since you mention it. In 118 and 122 pounds, Wifredo Gomes was one of the greatest pugilist of his era, then came Salvador Sanchez and beat the hell out of him, ask any Mexican fan. All this people you mention, live of writing and making comments. Only time will tell.

aquariusone
02-24-2011, 03:47 PM
Please, with all due respect, the fight only lasted 2 rounds. Without a doubt, he is very good in that weight class but I've seen many go up in weight and lose to lesser ranking opponents. I respect peeps opinion when there is sense in what they think. This was his first chance to shine on national tv and he did indeed. Lets wait to see how his boxing future develops before we speculate. ;) "you suffer from that fanatic disorder."

You are a "moderator" in this forum? What a shame!

Your every post concerning Manny Pacquiao, and now Donaire, reeks of severe prejudice. Not only do you offend many people in this forum, you still continue to do so by calling them names - "fanatics".

Your thoughtless simpleton remarks debases this forum to the lowest I have ever experienced. Your apologetic statement- "Sorry if you was offended or any other member of this forum"- carries neither sincerity nor grammatical form.

A true sports enthusiast admires a practitioner of the sport not by the color of his skin, creed, or religion, but by the manner in which he excels in and out of his chosen vocation.

Please refrain from further debasing yourself with insensitive and gruesomely revealing statements about yourself.

satman432
02-24-2011, 06:15 PM
Greatly well said.

rokko
02-24-2011, 07:48 PM
this is donaires record seems to me he has proved himself Professional boxing record26 Wins (18 knockouts), 1 Loss (by decision) [1]
Res. Opponent Type Rd., Time Date Location Notes
Win Fernando Montiel TKO 2 (12) 2011-02-19 Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, Las Vegas, United States Won WBO and WBC Bantamweight World Titles.
Win Wladimir Sidorenko KO 4 (12) 2010-12-04 Honda Center, Anaheim, California, United States Won vacant WBC Continental Americas Bantamweight Title.
Win Hernan Marquez TKO 8 (12) 2010-07-10 José Miguel Agrelot Coliseum, San Juan, Puerto Rico Retained WBA Super Flyweight Interim World Title.
Win Manuel Vargas KO 3 (12) 2010-02-13 Las Vegas Hilton, Las Vegas, United States Retained WBA Super Flyweight Interim World Title.
Win Rafael Concepcion UD 12 (12) 2009-08-15 Hard Rock Hotel and Casino, Las Vegas, United States Won WBA Super Flyweight Interim World Title.
Win Raul Martinez TKO 4 (12) 2009-04-19 Araneta Coliseum, Quezon City, Philippines Retained IBF and IBO Flyweight World Titles.
Win Moruti Mthalane TKO 6 (12) 2008-11-01 Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, Las Vegas, United States Retained IBF and IBO Flyweight World Titles.
Win Luis Maldonado TKO 8 (12) 2007-12-01 Foxwoods Resort Casino, Mashantucket, United States Retained IBF and IBO Flyweight World Titles.
Win Vic Darchinyan TKO 5 (12) 2007-07-07 Harbour Yard Arena, Bridgeport, United States Won IBF and IBO Flyweight World Titles. "Knockout of the Year"
Win Kevin Hudgins TKO 1 (8) 2007-05-12 Reno Events Center, Reno, United States
Win Oscar Andrade UD 12 (12) 2006-10-07 Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, Las Vegas, United States Retained NABF Super Flyweight Title.
Win Jose Luis Cardenas TKO 2 (8) 2006-07-29 Chumash Casino, Santa Ynez, United States
Win Kahren Harutyunyan SD 10 (10) 2006-01-20 Pechanga Resort and Casino, Temecula, United States Won NABF Super Flyweight Title.
Win Ilido Julio UD 8 (8) 2005-11-05 Caesars Tahoe, Stateline, United States
Win Daniel Gonzalez KO 1 (8) 2005-10-01 Reno Events Center, Reno, United States
Win Larry Olvera UD 6 (6) 2005-07-02 Reno Events Center, Reno, United States
Win Paulino Villalobos TKO 6 (8) 2005-05-13 Civic Arena, San Jose, United States
Win Gilberto Bolanos UD 8 (8) 2004-11-12 Quiet Cannon, Montebello, United States
Win Ricardo Barreras TKO 4 (6) 2004-06-18 Quiet Cannon, Montebello, United States
Win Jorge Lopez TKO 1 (6) 2003-06-27 Mare Island Sports Center, Vallejo, United States
Win Mark Sales TKO 5 (12) 2002-11-02 Joe Cantada Boxing Arena, Taguig City, Philippines
Win Kaichon Sor Vorapin KO 2 (12) 2002-09-01 University of Guam, Agana, Guam Won vacant WBO Asia Pacific Super Flyweight Title.
Win Noel Alma KO 1 (?) 2002-05-31 Elorde Sports Complex, Parañaque City, Philippines
Win Jose Luis Torres TKO 1 (4) 2001-07-03 Hyatt Regency Hotel, Monterey, United States
Win Saul Santoyo UD 4 (4) 2001-06-08 Hollywood Park Casino, Inglewood, United States
Loss Rosendo Sanchez UD 5 (5) 2001-03-10 Pacific Sports Center, Vallejo, United States
Win Jose Lazaro KO 1 (4) 2001-02-22