not to sure on something

[moneybags]

ok right now i have a ilink9500 and nanosat p
the dish is 30x33 i want to try and get 129 119 110 91 82 on this dish and would like the switches to be outside what type of switch set up will i need to do all this i do have one switch sitting around right now it is a sw 44 multipath

thank you for any help
moneybags

[Terryl]

Its going to be a hard job getting all those birds on 1 dish, you will also need 4 switches, 2-4 X 4's and and 2- SW21 22 KHz switches.

Or an 9 in 4 out switch something like this one.

http://www.emp-centauri.cz/products.php?id_kateg=6&id_pkateg=32&id=254

I would go with 2 dishes, 110/119/129 on 1 and 91/82 on the other.

[moneybags]

Its going to be a hard job getting all those birds on 1 dish, you will also need 4 switches, 2-4 X 4's and and 2- SW21 22 KHz switches.

Or an 9 in 4 out switch something like this one.

http://www.emp-centauri.cz/products.php?id_kateg=6&id_pkateg=32&id=254

I would go with 2 dishes, 110/119/129 on 1 and 91/82 on the other.

Zinwell 4x4 2 SAT / 4 RECV FTA Switch
SW21X Dishnet Switch (FTA Switch

you think that those 2 switches will work for this

[homer_™]

I agree that it will be hard to get all those sats on one dish. I think a powered 22 hz switch would be what you need.

The zinwal 4X4 will only get you two sats for four receivers because you need one port per polarity. A 9X4 will get you four sats, the 9th port is for OTA.
The next set up in the emp centenarian product line would be the 13X4 which has a capacity of 6 sats and one OTA and 4 receivers

[moneybags]

yea but my problem is that i am trying to keep all switches outside because my cable runs are almost 150 feet from the dish

[homer_™]

Is there a nearby shed that you could house a powered emp switch?

I have 8 coax lines going from my dish all the way to the house to tie into my 9x4 emp it's quite a mit full of cables but it does the trick.

[moneybags]

no not right now i am building a new one this is the dish that i am going to try and get it on
they say i can get it 129 119 110 91 82

[Terryl]

Those switches are for legacy LNBs, if you use the DP LNBs (or other band stacking LNB's) you will have better luck as they don't use the +13/+18 volt switching like the legacy LNBs do, then a standard 4x4 switch will work, remeber you have 5 LNBs to work with, a DP LNb will give you 1 coax per satellite to the switch, a legacy LNB needs 2 coaxes per LNB.

The EMP switch I posted would work better in this setup, it is an AC externally powered switch, all you need is an outdoor rated box to put it in, they can be found at most electrical supply houses or larger hardware stores, or it can be mounted under the roof eave or in the attic.

150 feet is a long run for the coax, it would be best to run RG-11, it has the lowest loss for consumer coaxes on satellite work.

Attached is a PDF file for you to look at, Plan # 1 uses 1 dish and 4 switches, Plan #2 uses 2 dishes and the same amount of switches, Plans 3 and 4 use the EMP switch, as you can see the EMP gives you the less amount of connections and possible problems.

10874

Note:

The DC power inserter's for the 4x4 switch (if they are powered) have to go on the #1 receiver input on each switch, they are not on the drawing.

[Terryl]

OK plan # 5, this uses 2-22 KHz switches and 1-4x4 switch (powered), one of the 22 KHz switches has to have a DC path on one side, this will allow you to put the DC power inserter at the #1 receiver to power the 4x4 switch.

Most singe satellite band stacking LNB's have 2 outputs, the one for 82 west will run to two 22 KHz switches, this saves you one 4x4 switch.

10878

[moneybags]

Those switches are for legacy LNBs, if you use the DP LNBs (or other band stacking LNB's) you will have better luck as they don't use the +13/+18 volt switching like the legacy LNBs do, then a standard 4x4 switch will work, remeber you have 5 LNBs to work with, a DP LNb will give you 1 coax per satellite to the switch, a legacy LNB needs 2 coaxes per LNB.

The EMP switch I posted would work better in this setup, it is an AC externally powered switch, all you need is an outdoor rated box to put it in, they can be found at most electrical supply houses or larger hardware stores, or it can be mounted under the roof eave or in the attic.

150 feet is a long run for the coax, it would be best to run RG-11, it has the lowest loss for consumer coaxes on satellite work.

Attached is a PDF file for you to look at, Plan # 1 uses 1 dish and 4 switches, Plan #2 uses 2 dishes and the same amount of switches, Plans 3 and 4 use the EMP switch, as you can see the EMP gives you the less amount of connections and possible problems.

10874

Note:

The DC power inserter's for the 4x4 switch (if they are powered) have to go on the #1 receiver input on each switch, they are not on the drawing.

i may just go it the emp one and a good outside box for it rg 11 cant find any store in the k/w area if anyone knows where there is one let me know thank you

[Terryl]

And if this is going out in the yard I would use some 1" EMT conduit and run the returning coax thru it, this will provide some extra shielding, you can use the comperssion fitting/couplers on the conduit, just use some pipe dope on/in them to keep out the water, then you can bury the conduit.

I use metal conduit under ground as it keep the gophers from eating through it.

[Terryl]

i may just go it the emp one and a good outside box for it rg 11 cant find any store in the k/w area if anyone knows where there is one let me know thank you

Most stores won't carry the RG-11, you will have to order it on-line, also the connectors are bigger in diameter then the ones used for RG-6, so the standard installation tools wont work, if you know the exact length you can get it pre-cut with connectors.


Here is a good starting place.


http://www.mjsales.net/items.asp?FamilyID=190&this_Cat1ID=266&Cat2ID=34&Cat3ID=18

[moneybags]

thank you time for some shopping now

[Terryl]

I'm full of good ideas, and I like spending other peoples money.............NYUK NYUK NYUK

[moneybags]

well i am back from the store thank you for all the help but i went a diff way got another 39' dish hh90 motor and quad polar lnb i cant get everything i need with this and again thank you for your help

moneybags