Help to choose switch

[eshan]

hi
every one! i want to connect 5 receiver to my dual 3 lnb's so i need 6x5 multiswitch or 6x8 multi switch i have found one on ebay but i am not sure if its the right one here is the url.

hxxp://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Zinwell-WideBand-6x8-MultiSwitch-Ka-Ku-WB68-DIRECTV-/140449285144?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b36e0418


i have a question there is alot of mulitiswitch like ka,ku band, IF signals, i am not sure what is kakuband/ if signal or any others so i wondering which multiswitch can i use for sat91w,sat110,sat119 any help will be really great thanks

will this diagram work ANY ONe?

[Terryl]

A 6 x 8 switch may work but first you need to know what type of LNB you have, the one you looked at is for a legacy LNB, it uses +13 and +18 volts at the LNB to switch the transponder polarity's.

If your LNB's are DP LNB's then that switch wont work. if your LNB's are legacy then it will.

And please no live outside links, make them dead like I did by using hxxp, instead of http.

[Terryl]

And "Ku" band and "Ka" band are different frequencies, "Ka" band is at 18 to 19 GHz, "Ku" band is from 10.2 to 12.7 GHz.

All the switch does is control what LNB output your receiver (or receivers) is (are) watching, the LNB receives the signal from the satellite at "Ku" or "Ka" band frequencies (after it bounces off the dish) and down converts it to a lower frequency, this is called an "LO" frequency, it runs at 900 MHz to 2.5 GHz, that is sent down to your receiver.

The switch routs the signals the receiver wants to use by using what are called Diseqc commands, these commands run at a very low frequency of 22 KHz, some LNB's have the switches built into them so an external switch is not needed.

[bkr™]

The 6 x 8 switch will work for all your legacy lnbs as you had mentioned in your previous posts on the subject. You have 3 sats input and up to 8 receivers out.

[eshan]

A 6 x 8 switch may work but first you need to know what type of LNB you have, the one you looked at is for a legacy LNB, it uses +13 and +18 volts at the LNB to switch the transponder polarity's.

If your LNB's are DP LNB's then that switch wont work. if your LNB's are legacy then it will.

And please no live outside links, make them dead like I did by using hxxp, instead of http.

hi
thanks for replay and sorry i didn't know about the live link. and my lnb's are aftermarket one and there isn't any sign of dp on it so i think its legacy so the switch in link have flexport1 and flexport2 so i dont have any idea what are these port for any help? and would you suggest any other switch for to use please let me know thanks and one think more my receiver are around 100ft far from dishes so do you think these switch will work?

[Terryl]

OK a legacy swith will have Sat 1 A , Sat 1 B, Sat 2 A and Sat 2 B inputs, the flex inputs can be A or B.

So you want to run 2 coaxes from Sat 1 A/B on the switch to both inputs on on the first LNB, and the same for the second LNB, Sat 2 A/B to the second LNB, the third LNB can be connected the same way to the flex inputs.

And if you use good RG-6 quad coax with the pure copper center to your reciver it should run fine.

[eshan]

OK a legacy swith will have Sat 1 A , Sat 1 B, Sat 2 A and Sat 2 B inputs, the flex inputs can be A or B.

So you want to run 2 coaxes from Sat 1 A/B on the switch to both inputs on on the first LNB, and the same for the second LNB, Sat 2 A/B to the second LNB, the third LNB can be connected the same way to the flex inputs.

And if you use good RG-6 quad coax with the pure copper center to your reciver it should run fine.

do i still have to use Diseqc with that 6x8 multiswitch or not?

[eshan]

hi terryl
on zinwell 6x8 multiswitch manual it saying the flexports can be only used for 95w and 72.5. so i am not using any 95w or 72.5. i have only 91w,110w,119w. here is the link

hxxp://manuals.solidsignal.com/6X8UserManual.pdf

[bkr™]

hi terryl
on zinwell 6x8 multiswitch manual it saying the flexports can be only used for 95w and 72.5. so i am not using any 95w or 72.5. i have only 91w,110w,119w. here is the link

hxxp://manuals.solidsignal.com/6X8UserManual.pdf
The switch was originally made for DTV use. 95w and 72.5w used linear type lnbs for reception and only had 1 output on the lnbs and the flex ports could handle both types of lnbs (linear and circular) to handle what DTV was doing at the time.

[eshan]

The switch was originally made for DTV use. 95w and 72.5w used linear type lnbs for reception and only had 1 output on the lnbs and the flex ports could handle both types of lnbs (linear and circular) to handle what DTV was doing at the time.

so can i use it or not?

[bkr™]

Yes, oh by the way your PM inbox is full and needs to be cleared out.

[eshan]

thanks alot i will order one. and my inbox is not full i have only 27mail i think you can store upto 50email?

[StanW]

Inbox and sent for a total of 50.

[WillDekkard]

The 6 x 8 switch will work for all your legacy lnbs as you had mentioned in your previous posts on the subject. You have 3 sats input and up to 8 receivers out.


so can i use it or not?


Yes, oh by the way your PM inbox is full and needs to be cleared out.

The 6x8 multiswitch will NOT work with 3 standard/Legacy LNBs. As stated this switch is designed to work with DTV and such those Flex ports do NOT work with FTA or other providers IRDs, DTV only. If they did, how would you set the receiver's dish settings? . . . ? You can use the 6x8 as a 4x8 multiswitch and the 2 flex-ports are not used.

Below is a 4sat-up to a 8 receiver setup:
http://www.satfix.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=11195&d=1313562798
For a 3sat-5receiver setup, sub a 3x8 for the 2nd 4x8. You can use 4x1 DiSEqC switches as in the diagram or you can use SW21 switches if your STB will support them.

[eshan]

I already bought one from ebay. its too late!

[WillDekkard]

sh*t i already bought one from ebay. its too late!

Hope you got it at a good price, otherwise it's an expensive 4x8 multiswitch. You can still use it.

[dslchome]

Can he just use a DP44 switch and daisy chain them?

Im not sure what Kind of dish he said he had. I used to love standard 18 inch dishes with then i started to use dish 500 with quad lnbs ,

now I like the Dish 1000 plus with DPP 44 switch, grounding block version with the power inserter.
You can get on 1 dish 1000 plus 119W 110W 129W 118.7W and do as many rooms as you want via daily chain the DPP 44 switch. I have 2 switches now and I dont have to worry about being grounded since they are perfectly grounded

Anways.. I hope you get the right switch.. I was glad when I got rid of all them dishes on my house or 1 dish with many lnbs all over, it didnt look professional at all, so I was real happy when I got the dish 1000 plus

also that dish will work with any FTA unit or dn IRD, and you dont need to leave the IRD on to power the switch since it has the power inserter. I can even use Dreamboxes on it.

[eshan]

i have 2 dish one is 33'' with two dual legacy lnb's. one for sat118/119w and one for sat 110w and i have 1 another 18' dish for sat91w. so i have 5 receiver so how can i use dp44 switch it have only 4 out?

[satchick]

You can't use the DP44 switch with legacy LNBs, that's the first thing. You'd have to upgrade them all to Dishpro equipment. To get up to 8 outputs, the DP44 switches can be cascaded together, you just connect a second switch to the four cascade ports on the side of the switch.

[eshan]

cant change it so lets talk about existing one?

[satchick]

As someone mentioned earlier, you can use the 6x8 switch as a 4x8.... Just set up your switches according to the diagram Will posted on page 1 of this thread. You'll need a second multiswitch as well, either a 3x8 or 4x8. I'd recommend the 4x8 as it'll allow you to add another satellite later.

[eshan]

will this diagram work

[WillDekkard]

will this diagram work

Well sorta-yes, but NO.

First off the 91LNB would be connectedto only 1 receiver. The other receiver that looks like it is connected, is connected to an input port of the DiSEqC switch. Remember a 4x1 DiSEqC switch is 4sats-1receiver, so that part is wrong.

You need to place a 3x4 or 3x8 multiswitch on the 91LNB. Then use a 4x1 DiSEqC or a SW21 switch between the 3x4(3x8) and the 6x8(which you use as a 4x8-not using the flex ports). You will need a 4x1 or SW21 for each receiver.

Take a look at the top diagram in the pic below. It shows a 3x4 & 4x4. For your setup sub the 6x8 for the 4x4 and sub a 3x8 for the 3x4. If you wish to only receive 91 on a couple of receivers, just use a 3x4 as shown:
http://www.satfix.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=11284&d=1314340704