View Full Version : limesat hd with sw44 and sw64 switches
f2air045
11-08-2011, 06:24 AM
can I use these switches: sw64 sw for us sats (110,119,129) and sw44 sw for bev sats. can I end up with one cable from a sw21 sw.
ottid142
11-08-2011, 10:50 PM
How many STBs are you wanting to run off this setup?
Terryl
11-08-2011, 11:00 PM
If your receiver is Diseqc 1.1 or 2.0 compatible you can run a 8 x 1 switch, this would give you the 5 satellite LNB inputs (plus a few more) to 1 output, they even have 9 x 4 switches.(8 satellite LNB inputs plus an off air TV antenna input)
Look here at this switch.
http://www.emp-centauri.cz/products.php?id_kateg=5&id_pkateg=15&id=63
And the SW 64 and SW44 switches require DC power inserter's, one for each switch.
WillDekkard
11-09-2011, 05:54 AM
can I use these switches: sw64 sw for us sats (110,119,129) and sw44 sw for bev sats. can I end up with one cable from a sw21 sw.
Sorry, I am not familiar with the Limesat HD. However, the question to ask yourself is: Does your Limesat HD have Legacy switch settings to support a SW44 switch or a SW64 switch? You will not be able to place a SW21 switch behind another Legacy switch as you suggest. You can use a 22KHz switch in place of the SW21, providing your receiver will support the other 2 switches, as I questioned above.
f2air045
11-12-2011, 08:36 PM
Can I connect the power inserter cable to the stb
ottid142
11-12-2011, 09:03 PM
Can I connect the power inserter cable to the stb
No you cannot connect any FTA STB to the power inserter cable. There have been many reports of the power supply in the STB being fried when connected to this cable.
f2air045
11-12-2011, 10:40 PM
By connecting the bev sats cable to the sw44 none power inserter output to the stb it shows me signal for both 82 and 91 as being 91. Whats wrong. Also for dn sats 110 is connected to 3a and 3b, 119 to 2a and 2b, 129 to 1a and 1b of the sw64 sw inputs. Why the legacy sw settings in the stb show sw64 1a and 1b, sw64 2a and 2b, sw64 3a and 3b. I should be sw64 lnb1, sw64 lnb2 and sw64 lnb3.
ottid142
11-13-2011, 01:42 PM
By connecting the bev sats cable to the sw44 none power inserter output to the stb it shows me signal for both 82 and 91 as being 91. Whats wrong. Also for dn sats 110 is connected to 3a and 3b, 119 to 2a and 2b, 129 to 1a and 1b of the sw64 sw inputs. Why the legacy sw settings in the stb show sw64 1a and 1b, sw64 2a and 2b, sw64 3a and 3b. I should be sw64 lnb1, sw64 lnb2 and sw64 lnb3.
It sounds to me like you might have a couple of paper weights on your hands. In my many years of testing there have been very few brands of STBs that have supported the Legacy switches, namely the SW44 and this is the first time that I can recall of someone using a SW64. Over the years i have seen many brands list the SW44 in Multi Dish Settings area, possibly from the Factory Files, but the switch not being usable because it is not supported by the third party software. This might be the case here. You might have no choice than to try another switching arrangement.
f2air045
11-13-2011, 03:43 PM
It sounds to me like you might have a couple of paper weights on your hands. In my many years of testing there have been very few brands of STBs that have supported the Legacy switches, namely the SW44 and this is the first time that I can recall of someone using a SW64. Over the years i have seen many brands list the SW44 in Multi Dish Settings area, possibly from the Factory Files, but the switch not being usable because it is not supported by the third party software. This might be the case here. You might have no choice than to try another switching arrangement.
I was able to scan ch on all sats but I see pictures only for 118.
ottid142
11-13-2011, 04:45 PM
By connecting the bev sats cable to the sw44 none power inserter output to the stb it shows me signal for both 82 and 91 as being 91. Whats wrong. Also for dn sats 110 is connected to 3a and 3b, 119 to 2a and 2b, 129 to 1a and 1b of the sw64 sw inputs. Why the legacy sw settings in the stb show sw64 1a and 1b, sw64 2a and 2b, sw64 3a and 3b. I should be sw64 lnb1, sw64 lnb2 and sw64 lnb3.
I was able to scan ch on all sats but I see pictures only for 118.
Are you trying to tune in 119 or 118/119. If you are trying to tune in both that is one of your problems. The SW44 and SW64 are "Legacy Switches" designed to work with "Legacy LNBs". They may also work with "Standard LNBs" but I have not tested this steup. The special lo frequency LNB for 118/119 does not fall into these catagories.
The only way to tell if a SW44 or SW64 is compatible with your STB is to scan the sats. If it is compatible you will get ALL the channels on that sat. If it IS NOT compatible you will only scan about half the channels. You will only scan the channels on either the horizontal TPs or the vertical TPs but not both. This is one of the reasons we tend not to recommend people to go out and buy Legacy Switches such as the SW44 and SW64 until someone who knows what to look for actually tests the swtiches with a particular model of STB.
Terryl
11-13-2011, 05:39 PM
F2air045,
I think you need to understand what a "Legacy" switch and "legacy" LNB are, the legacy LNB uses a DC voltage to switch between the satellite transponders, 13 to 14 volts DC will get you the V or R polarity's, 18 to 19 volts DC will get you the H or L polarity's, the Legacy switch uses the 2 ports on the LNB to get both polarity's (L&R or H&V) to all receivers sharing that one LNB.
Thus on the legacy switch the SAT 1A and SAT 1B, SAT 2A and SAT 2B inputs, the DN and BEV receivers use a special output code to switch to the correct satellite and polarity at the switch, this is why some FTA receivers do not work correctly with these old style switches and LNB's.
If you have this old style "legacy" equipment then It would be best to go with newer LNB's (3 DP duals for Dish, and 2 DP duals or a DP twin for BEV) and a new Diseqc switch,(4 in 1 out or 4 in 4 out) the receiver(s) will be much happier and you will not loose as much hair trying to solve this problem.
f2air045
11-13-2011, 06:12 PM
I will go for diseqc and 22khz switches. I just ordered 2 of chieta 4x1 diseqc sw for my 2 dishes with 6 sats all together. One for bev dish and one for dn dish going to the 22khz sw. Since that 4x1 sw isnt powered I dont know whether I will get enough signal at the other end of the 100' cable to the stb. When I installed the 4 dn sats I got strong and locked signal at 90 on 118/119 but 110 and 129 sats signal were locked at 65.
ottid142
11-14-2011, 12:36 AM
I will go for diseqc and 22khz switches. I just ordered 2 of chieta 4x1 diseqc sw for my 2 dishes with 6 sats all together. One for bev dish and one for dn dish going to the 22khz sw. Since that 4x1 sw isnt powered I dont know whether I will get enough signal at the other end of the 100' cable to the stb. When I installed the 4 dn sats I got strong and locked signal at 90 on 118/119 but 110 and 129 sats signal were locked at 65.
You really only need one Diseqc Switch. Run 118.119 to Port 1, 110 to port 2, 129 to Port 3 and using your 22kHZ switch run 91 22kHz off and 82 22kHz on to port 4. Running 100 feet of cable it is highly recommended that you use a solid copper core coax such as quad shield to minimize signal loss.
joao6800
11-14-2011, 07:49 PM
Hi! i am a little green on these switches, can anyone explain what is a 22kHZ switch to run 91 22kHz off and 82 22kHz on to port 4 i know that 91 and 82 is BEV "i never seen a 22khz switch" i would appreciated if anyone can educate me on this.
Thanks
Pollypurabred
11-15-2011, 04:02 AM
Most of the newer Stbs have a menu item in the antenna setup that you can turn this option on/off. In the older Stbs, one had to physically install a switch that could generate this "tone" which gives you options based on your setup.
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