Pacquiao again picks off Marquez

[Fibroso]

Pacquiao again picks off Marquez
http://a.espncdn.com/i/columnists/Rafael_Dan_35.jpg (http://search.espn.go.com/dan-rafael/) By Dan Rafael
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http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/1112/box_a_pacquiao_b6_576.jpg (http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7210265/espn-coverage-pacquiao-marquez-iii)AP Photo/Jae C. HongIt didn't come easily, but Manny Pacquiao again squeaked by Juan Manuel Marquez in a 12-round decision.
LAS VEGAS -- After 36 rounds of fierce combat, Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez are basically even up, although history will record that it was Pacquiao who had the edge in their fabulous and historical trilogy.

Pacquiao, on what clearly was not his best night, escaped with a majority decision to retain his welterweight title on Saturday night before an electric, sold-out crowd of 16,368 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

But the crowd, filled with Mexicans rooting for Marquez, booed the decision and threw drink bottles at ringside to show their outrage after an excellent fight. Pacquiao now holds a 2-0-1 edge over Marquez, but he could certainly be 0-3, and his hold on the No. 1 position on boxing's unofficial pound-for-pound lists might take a hit in some quarters.

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The win, however, probably keeps alive the prospect of a showdown between Pacquiao and fellow welterweight titlist Floyd Mayweather Jr., who ought to be licking his chops if he took time out to watch his rival struggle more than he has at any time since he edged Marquez in a 2008 junior lightweight championship fight -- which came four years after Pacquiao and Marquez fought to a draw in a featherweight title fight at the MGM Grand.
Their third fight was another incredibly close and competitive one waged at the highest level of boxing. It was everything that is right about the sport: two great competitors and future Hall of Famers leaving everything they have in the ring.
In the end, however, it was Pacquiao who got the nod. Judge Glenn Trowbridge gave it to Pacquiao 116-112, Dave Moretti had it 115-113, and Robert Hoyle had it 114-114. ESPN.com had it 114-114 also.
"The fans of Marquez, of course, aren't happy, but my fans are happy," Pacquiao said. "I clearly won the fight. He is a good fighter, but I do my best. It is very clear that I won the fight."
Marquez was left singing the blues again, something he is used to with Pacquiao.
"This is the second robbery of the two that we had, and I think this was even more clear than the first," Marquez said. "We won with the clearer punches. The audience protested because they saw us win again. I thought I got robbed. It happens again and again. I don't know what else I can do to win."
Nacho Beristain, Marquez's Hall of Fame trainer, was outraged.
"I've always confided in this commission here, but this has been a robbery in the utmost," he said.
Two judges gave Pacquiao the 12th round, which was ragged and not definitive. Had Marquez -- who was told by Beristain that he was ahead -- won it on those cards, the fight would have been a draw.
The Filipino congressman has yet to definitively defeat Marquez, the lightweight champion who moved up in weight for a fight contracted at a catchweight of 144 pounds. His style just gives Pacquiao fits. Probably always will.
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"He is a counterpuncher, waiting for my punches," Pacquiao said.
Marquez (53-6-1, 39 KOs) darted to an early lead as he flustered Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38 KOs), who earned $22 million plus a piece of the pay-per-view profits. He landed a lot of right hands and looked strong as a welterweight, where he had fought only once before but lost a lopsided decision to Mayweather in 2009.

Freddie Roach, Pacquiao's trainer, was concerned, telling Pacquiao he needed to pick it up after the sixth round. Pacquiao did just that, fighting his way back into the fight.
"It was a very close fight. It could have gone either way," Roach said. "I asked Manny to move to the right and he didn't."

The crowd was cheering wildly for Marquez, and an upset appeared to be brewing as he continued to land counter right hands.

Maybe Pacquiao, who made his third welterweight title defense, was feeling a little desperate as he tried to turn it into a slugfest and the fighters began to trade with abandon in the ninth round, when Pacquiao suffered a small cut over his right eye. It was just great theater to watch.
So will we see a fourth fight? With Mayweather sitting there, it seems unlikely -- assuming the sides can ever make a deal.

But Pacquiao is open to it.
"Anytime, anytime," he said. "I am a fighter. My job is to fight."

But Marquez, who made $5 million plus a percentage of the pay-per-view profits, isn't necessarily interested.
"It would be difficult to decide. Maybe I retire, maybe I don't," Marquez said. "It is so hard when you're fighting against a rival and also against the three judges."

If Marquez retires -- or doesn't -- Mayweather looms for Pacquiao. It's the fight the world wants to see -- no disrespect to Marquez.
"Let's get it on," Pacquiao said of Mayweather. "Let's make the fight happen and give the people a good fight."

[Fibroso]

Well, where is everyone? I told you that Marquez had Pacquiao's numbers. It didn't matter his youth, strength, speed or his superpowers, the Guerrero Azteca beat him to the punch. This Pacman looked more confused that the one in the previous two fights and so did the judge that scored it 116-112 in his favor. True what Juan said, it's hard to win against Manny and the three judges, Manny said "Lets get it on" when question about fighting Floyd, I question you, can this Pacman beat PBF? After this performance, I doubt it.

[rudee]

Hey guys... what ya think??... I agree with you Fib.. Manny seemed very cautious this time around... BUT,,, the fight was there for Marquez to take... he was not aggressive
enough.. especially at the end... he just gave Manny the last round... he could have pressed Manny,,, he did not... especially after the cut eye..
The decision was fine with me,,, mainly cuz Manny was the aggressor throughout the fight... both were really scared of each other.
If Manny fights like this against Floyd,,, it will be a very boring fight.. as we have said... as of last nights fight,,,, I would definitely take Floyd over Manny.
Did you notice how small Manny is? small of stature... muscular but small... seems to be fighting at his natural weight.
Floyd would definitely be too big for him..
After last night,, i think Floyd will sign the contract for May.
All in all,,, was a good fight. Not as good as I expected.... I had the fight pretty much even..
But again,, Marquez shows his ugly side by storming out of the ring.... that was no class. Part of his pay is for him to interview after the fight.. Its in the contract.
The fans booed because they were all Mexicans... tons of Mexicans in Vegas. And they come from Los Angeles,, which is probably half Mexican.
I can live with the decision.... Marquez just did not want it bad enough... Manny was there for the taking.
Good undercard.. cept for the Bradley fight.
I really don't want to see these guys fight each other again.... would be the same thing over again.

[Highwayman]

The fight wasnt what i expected it
to be both fighters had to much respect for
each other the fixings for a melancholy fight
neither fighter look liked top rank fighters
Pacman with a little better ring generalship.
Mayweather is and always will be a coward to me
Mayweather has been ducking Pacman for 2 years now
Pacman with 60 pro fights compared to Mayweathers 40
pro fights is exactly what Mayweather wanted to happen
take Manny past his prime or close to it then i`ll fight him!
Mayweather needs a lesson on how to be a man a real man
like Joe Frazier whom Mayweather doesnt even come close to.
R.I.P. Mr.Joe Frazier.

[Chigaro]

Manny was way off in the fight, perhaps because Marquez knows his tricks. Manny couldn't hit him when he needed and Marquez seemed so much sharper. In the end, the fight was the same as the same as the first two, they both fought as well as they could.

Manny had more connects and clearly was the aggressor, Marquez had by far the best shots, however, not sure what the confusion is about, Manny won the fight, a close fight, but he clearly won.

Agreed, not the fight I was hoping for, I wanted Manny to win big, but it was a very close contest. I keep thinking that Mayweather will want the fight now, he may see Pacquiao as on the decline and ready to dominate. He destroyed Marquez, Manny was lucky to win. So, did Manny keep the foot off the gas to deliberately look bad so that Mayweather would fight him?

[kenggd]

I hope they dont fight again enough already 3 times is plenty every one loses at some point and if you have to fight the same guy over and over again you will lose at some point or you will get what happen both guys not really letting go with the hands Pacman to me looked like he didnt even want to be there. I agree if Pacman fights PBF like that he will lose.Im geting to the point were i cant stand to watch boxing when it takes 20mins to get to the ring from all the singing and dancing 40 people in the ring before the fight and after just put them in the ring and let them go dont need a concert when the fighter is headed to the ring to much like WWE.

[soulman]

It was a very close fight and finally the PPV customers got their moneys worth. Manny, in my opinion was very upset by the crowd's reaction to the decision......he has never had such a reaction to one of his wins. Don't be surprised if he retires if the fight with Floyd is not signed for next May. Manny has already made plenty of money.

[rokko]

if the fight was scored only on counterpunching marquez would have wqn easily--he was brilliant--on the other hand he was never the aggressor--he ran backwards for 12 rounds counterpunching only. i scored it a draw--it was that close. i have not seen the punch stats but it is said manny had the better numbers--if you are going to take the champs belt you gotta do more---no knock downs and pac was never in trouble--fair decison

[KIDWCKED]

if the fight was scored only on counterpunching marquez would have wqn easily--he was brilliant--on the other hand he was never the aggressor--he ran backwards for 12 rounds counterpunching only. i scored it a draw--it was that close. i have not seen the punch stats but it is said manny had the better numbers--if you are going to take the champs belt you gotta do more---no knock downs and pac was never in trouble--fair decison

Well said rokko!Much agreed.

[phantom]

I agree. I was thinking the same about pacman and the gas for Floyd.
But I just think Marquez didnt open up enough for manny to exploit.
Manny won for sure. Kind of disappointed with his performance though. Was looking for a whoop ass and nothing much happened. Too cautious. I have alot more respect for Marquez as a fighter. I totally think his trainer is a crook though. He setup Marquez to be upset like that. Full of $hit.
Marquez could have easily won if he was more aggressive. But who knows, that's what Manny wants so that Marquez would be more vulnerable.
Close fight for sure. Pacman was frustrated for sure. However pacman was more hungry.
Marquez didnot take what he could have.





Manny was way off in the fight, perhaps because Marquez knows his tricks. Manny couldn't hit him when he needed and Marquez seemed so much sharper. In the end, the fight was the same as the same as the first two, they both fought as well as they could.

Manny had more connects and clearly was the aggressor, Marquez had by far the best shots, however, not sure what the confusion is about, Manny won the fight, a close fight, but he clearly won.

Agreed, not the fight I was hoping for, I wanted Manny to win big, but it was a very close contest. I keep thinking that Mayweather will want the fight now, he may see Pacquiao as on the decline and ready to dominate. He destroyed Marquez, Manny was lucky to win. So, did Manny keep the foot off the gas to deliberately look bad so that Mayweather would fight him?

[el chido]

Gentlemen, This Was One Treat & a Half!...A Boxing Fan's Wet Dream and Delight. Both Fighters respect each other too much and this time around It was more tactical than a slugfest. Pacman was not having fun in there and was uncomfortable with Marquez' counterattack. kudos to Marquez for being the True Warrior that He is, but Nacho Berenstein messed up by assuring Marquez that He was winning the fight, especially in the later & most crucial rounds, in which I felt Marquez needed to step It up one notch; If only Nacho would have pressed Marquez a bit more, It would have made the difference at least on the judges' view. I agree with All of You, No rematch necessary, They both have squared off evenly in my books, but Marquez has become a True Champion and marked His Legacy even more by showing His Cojones to The Best Out there, Not Only Once, but three times, while Gayweather is still thinking about It.
Great display of sportmanship & Respect from both fighters, and did you notice How Roach was very quiet throughout the fight??...Perhaps Marquez impressed him as well....not bad for a 38 yo....

[rokko]

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[el chido]

I'm watching This baby again!!

For Those who want to watch the Replay....


http://www.phnoy.com/2011/11/pacquiao-vs-marquez-3-full-fight-replay.html

[rom x]

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maybe someone should show juan and his trainer this.. then maybe they will shut the hell up and stop saying they were robbed. if you want the belt you have to TAKE IT. not just be a good counter puncher and expect to win the tittle.

[jriver309]

Well nice to see someone stand in there and fight Manny and it might of been a slower punch output by Manny but thats all Marquez fighting him. So instead of Manny having glorified punching bags and blowing someone over we had a real fight cause Marquez fought him back big time so hats off to him, to me it should of been a draw and by the reaction from Manny at the end before the decision was announced he was worried. And as far as Stewart saying you don't tell your fighter he is winning well a couple of fights ago I heard him critize a corner for doing that, he said do not tell a man he is losing it takes his spirit away, I will make my brain remember that fight. I was surprised Mayweather didm't land by parachute to say let me at Manny now. But good fight

[Fibroso]

maybe someone should show juan and his trainer this.. then maybe they will shut the hell up and stop saying they were robbed. if you want the belt you have to TAKE IT. not just be a good counter puncher and expect to win the tittle.

The paper holds whatever you write on it, the people saw a different fight. Different strokes for different folks.

[Yogi]

The first time I watched the fight, I thought if you give all the close rounds to Marquez, it would have been a 6 to 6 round tie. The second time I watched the fight, if I gave the close rounds to Marquez, it was a 5 rounds to 7, Manny fight. Giving every close round to Marquez is being very generous. If you are fighting for someone's belt title, you have to take it from them, by clearly taking the rounds. Marquez did have a couple of the best punches of the night, but the problem was, he didn't have enough of them in enough rounds to take the rounds away from Manny. Manny out worked JMM most of the might by landing more clean effective punches.

That being said, Marquez put up a good fight. I was shocked when he came in at 150 pounds. I thought he might go back down in weight and Manny would go up in weight, giving a huge weight advantage to Manny. Kootoes Marquez for putting in the work and effort to make it a good close fight, instead of just showing up for a paycheck. If Marquez would have managed his weight better in the Mayweather fight like he did in this fight, he might have been able to make it a little closer fight then it was.

Yes I know, Manny didn't look as good against Marquez as he has against other fighter, but that just goes to show what a top notch fighter that Marquez is. If you take away the fight against Mayweather, where he was greatly out weighed, his last 4 for fight were against Juan Díaz , Juan Díaz again, Michael Katsidis, and Likar Ramos. Most of these guys are known as tough hard hitting guys. Marques beat Diaz in the first fight by KO and in the second fight he won by UD. He beat both Katsidis and Ramos by KO. At his age, that is impressive to know that he is still knocking these guys out and goes to show that he is still on top of his game. If he fought Manny 25 times and they were both at the same weight, Marquez would pose a problem for Manny in all 25 fights, because he has that style that works against Manny.

[rudee]

Well,,, they are already clamoring for a rematch over here on this side of the country.... apparently Manny did not heed Roach's corner instructions to get in and throw combinations..
It was Roach who wanted this last fight so Manny could knock the Mexican out for good. Manny just didn't have it in him to go after Marquez.
Different Manny that we all knew.. very cautious... but he was the aggressor so you give points for aggression. Both were afraid to get countered.
Anyway,,, I for one would not pay to watch it again.... as Steward said... if they go 50 rounds it would all be the same.
Lets face it guys,,, the undercards were better.. cept for Bradley.

[Yogi]

Well nice to see someone stand in there and fight Manny and it might of been a slower punch output by Manny but thats all Marquez fighting him. So instead of Manny having glorified punching bags and blowing someone over we had a real fight cause Marquez fought him back big time so hats off to him, to me it should of been a draw and by the reaction from Manny at the end before the decision was announced he was worried. And as far as Stewart saying you don't tell your fighter he is winning well a couple of fights ago I heard him critize a corner for doing that, he said do not tell a man he is losing it takes his spirit away, I will make my brain remember that fight. I was surprised Mayweather didm't land by parachute to say let me at Manny now. But good fight

Glorified punching bags? Do you really believe that if it was JMM instead of Manny fighting Miguel Cotto, Joshua Clottey, Antonio Margarito, or Shane Mosley, he could have made these guys look like glorified punching bags? I say, no freaking way.

[jessbernal59]

A good decission from the judge...If you are a challenger when you step up in the ring you must have to show your agressiveness, fight as a terror not just only defensive and counter punch have a little bit more exciting from the audience to win a knock down fight, if not you lost the fight.....

[Condor]

It was a good decision... But yes Marquez does have Manny's #.. I am very proud of my Paisano for a that age putting up such a great fight... If only he would have been more agressive in the last 2 rounds he may have pulled it off.. Yes Nacho ( trainer) was totally wrong in making him believe he had the fight won... You never, ever tell your fighter you have the fight won even if you are winning it...What and idiot...........

[rudee]

you know bolivia,,, its hard for me to understand a boxer believing his corner when they are telling him he is winning or losing...
you know better than anyone if you are winning or losing... how many times have you taken a punch? how many times have
you hit the other guy?
I really don't think that made a difference for Marquez. He just did not want to get knocked down. Mainly cuz it would change
the course of the fight if he did. He was going to take his chances by just countering Manny and hoping he got in a good shot.
Which he did,,, but not often enough.. so Manny chased him around the ring.. not really doing too much, but threw more punches
and was the aggressor.
I would blame Marquez more than i would his manager. Marquez been fighting too long not to know if he is winning or losing.
Neither fighter really did what their manager told them to do. The press over here is not questioning the judges decisions.

[Condor]

you know bolivia,,, its hard for me to understand a boxer believing his corner when they are telling him he is winning or losing...
you know better than anyone if you are winning or losing... how many times have you taken a punch? how many times have
you hit the other guy?
I really don't think that made a difference for Marquez. He just did not want to get knocked down. Mainly cuz it would change
the course of the fight if he did. He was going to take his chances by just countering Manny and hoping he got in a good shot.
Which he did,,, but not often enough.. so Manny chased him around the ring.. not really doing too much, but threw more punches
and was the aggressor.
I would blame Marquez more than i would his manager. Marquez been fighting too long not to know if he is winning or losing.
Neither fighter really did what their manager told them to do. The press over here is not questioning the judges decisions.
You are partially correct Rudee.. I did a little fighting in my young days and the things is when you are in there throwing and taking punches, unless you are totally overwhelming your opponent it's very hard to tell who is dominating who..Plus in your mind you are always winning anyway..Plus i hate it when you go and get beat and you dont admit it..It was a close fight but we all know who won... Unless you are one of those hard core fans that no matter what you bet with your heart just because the fighter is a "homie"...lol.. That is one thing that I hated about Julio Cesar Chavez....He never admitted he lost any of his fights... .lol........

[aquariusone]

There are several here who are excellent observers of boxing matches but you two, Bolivia, and Rudee, are two of the best.

Although there is little I could add to the comments (that has not already been said) let me give my two cents. Perhaps the most objective way of looking at this fight is by setting aside memories of their first two and seeing them as two "new" combatants; AND ranking their performance accordingly.

The problem with "perception" is that we are influenced by bias and by our previous experience and thus we have already formed our expectations. For instance, those leaning heavily on Marquez may have formed a bias that if Marquez is still standing by the end of the 12th round, he will demonstrate clear superiority. Those who are Pacquiao fans even before the fight have already assumed that Marquez is mince meat and that the fight should not go beyond 6 rounds.

And that is the problem with "pre-conceived notions".

When we watch a fight with those leanings, we tend to observe as follows:
MARQUEZ fans: They will see mostly the punches thrown and landed (by Marquez)
PACQUIAO fans: They are looking for the KO punches and they hardly ever notice hits (by Pacquiao)
CASUAL observers and JUDGES: They see the fight as it is

Interestingly the boxers themselves are influenced by what had previously taken place. Although both boxers prepared seriously for this fight and trained heavily to use different techniques and new skills, "muscle memory' and the subconscious control their action in the ring. Thus, what took place on Saturday night was the product of those "pre-conceived" notions. They did not go at it like two boxers meeting each other for the first time. They had too much respect for each other's ability. Nonetheless, as faulty as the "belief" of either camp, what we saw that night are two boxing Hall of Famers for their respective accomplishments.

Regardless of the judges (accurate) scoring - from an objective point of view - we saw two excellent pugilists. Pacquiao fans don't have to feel a letdown just because Marquez was not KOed. Mexican fans should not be disrespectful and feel great disdain because their man did not get a win.

BOXING FANS should cheer because they did not see a chicken run all over the ring for a win; they saw two men unafraid to throw and take punches. Regardless of the outcome, we saw a great trilogy. One thing that remains unsolved is the great mystery; but that will never be solved either - not even if they fight for another 30 years (quoting Emmanuel Steward). Only true boxing fans are the winners.

[Fibroso]

Well Aqua, took you sometime to react. As always, good read. True this guys gave a hell of performance after two previous engagements but the fact that expectations had risen from all experts in boxing that Manny would KO Juan in 6 rounds, made this a poor judged event. Like I said previously, Juan had Manny's # , so well decipher that he couldn't even put him down with his punches. I also said Nacho had learned some tricks from Floyd and were working on it. 1-Juan came in at 150 pounds, heavier than most expected. 2-Let Manny lead the way and just countered him with uppers, hooks and straight right hand to the body and face, all in combinations. He even drew first BLOOD. That is (Chicken) Floyd as his best in pursue of a win. last but not least, Memo's work was magnificent. Sorry to say, the judging was terrible. Although Manny looked BAD, it was an even match.



Regardless of the judges (accurate) scoring - from an objective point of view - we saw two excellent pugilists. Pacquiao fans don't have to feel a letdown just because Marquez was not KOed. Mexican fans should not be disrespectful and feel great disdain because their man did not get a win.

BOXING FANS should cheer because they did not see a chicken run all over the ring for a win; they saw two men unafraid to throw and take punches. Regardless of the outcome, we saw a great trilogy. One thing that remains unsolved is the great mystery; but that will never be solved either - not even if they fight for another 30 years (quoting Emmanuel Steward). Only true boxing fans are the winners.

[rudee]

My paisano bolivia is right on about Chavez... was a super bad sport... egoistic to the max. I was not a big Chavez fan. Whitiker beat the crap outta hime.. got robbed!
Agree with Aqua and Fib both... these two are super evenly matched... again,, bottom line is, they did not do what they trained to do.
But again,,, they do judge on aggression. I coulda lived with Marquez getting the nod.
BUT,, this mornings papers are plastered with a rematch in MAY!! to take Floyd's thunder away...
Manny says lets do it!!! Paper said Manny took the booing very hard, almost brought tears to his eyes! First time he was ever booed.
Arum pushing for another fight.... again,, in May.
Maybe cinco de Mayo!!!
I am not interested myself.

[Condor]

There are several here who are excellent observers of boxing matches but you two, Bolivia, and Rudee, are two of the best.

Although there is little I could add to the comments (that has not already been said) let me give my two cents. Perhaps the most objective way of looking at this fight is by setting aside memories of their first two and seeing them as two "new" combatants; AND ranking their performance accordingly.

The problem with "perception" is that we are influenced by bias and by our previous experience and thus we have already formed our expectations. For instance, those leaning heavily on Marquez may have formed a bias that if Marquez is still standing by the end of the 12th round, he will demonstrate clear superiority. Those who are Pacquiao fans even before the fight have already assumed that Marquez is mince meat and that the fight should not go beyond 6 rounds.

And that is the problem with "pre-conceived notions".

When we watch a fight with those leanings, we tend to observe as follows:
MARQUEZ fans: They will see mostly the punches thrown and landed (by Marquez)
PACQUIAO fans: They are looking for the KO punches and they hardly ever notice hits (by Pacquiao)
CASUAL observers and JUDGES: They see the fight as it is

Interestingly the boxers themselves are influenced by what had previously taken place. Although both boxers prepared seriously for this fight and trained heavily to use different techniques and new skills, "muscle memory' and the subconscious control their action in the ring. Thus, what took place on Saturday night was the product of those "pre-conceived" notions. They did not go at it like two boxers meeting each other for the first time. They had too much respect for each other's ability. Nonetheless, as faulty as the "belief" of either camp, what we saw that night are two boxing Hall of Famers for their respective accomplishments.

Regardless of the judges (accurate) scoring - from an objective point of view - we saw two excellent pugilists. Pacquiao fans don't have to feel a letdown just because Marquez was not KOed. Mexican fans should not be disrespectful and feel great disdain because their man did not get a win.

BOXING FANS should cheer because they did not see a chicken run all over the ring for a win; they saw two men unafraid to throw and take punches. Regardless of the outcome, we saw a great trilogy. One thing that remains unsolved is the great mystery; but that will never be solved either - not even if they fight for another 30 years (quoting Emmanuel Steward). Only true boxing fans are the winners.

Nope.. I dont agree Aqua...lol.. You are the man!!!!... We just live in your world.....:thumbsup::awe:... Right on on that assesment... Salud........:cor::cor::cor::cor::cor:

[aquariusone]

Not to take anything from the great Marquez...just sharing what was discovered by keen observers:

Foot stomping?

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"Yellow substance" for Marquez:
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[Yogi]

Not to take anything from the great Marquez...just sharing what was discovered by keen observers:

Foot stomping?

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/310284_10150474104495041_703130040_11040548_483462 857_n.jpg

"Yellow substance" for Marquez:
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I thought he gave the pee up. :tehe::tehe::tehe:

[jriver309]

Its really common for southpaw verus conventional fighter to tangle feet or get stepped on and with these guys such short arms probably more so. But that yellow drink wonder what that is I thought Nevada only always water not Gatorade

[Fibroso]

Its really common for southpaw verus conventional fighter to tangle feet or get stepped on and with these guys such short arms probably more so. But that yellow drink wonder what that is I thought Nevada only always water not Gatorade

Agree, the yellow is not yellow but a reflection of the rope, just need to be a bit more focus. You will see them making all kinds of excuses, it happens when you are disappointed. Now they want to spoil Floyd's 5 de mayo by mentioning another fight between them. We want PBF/Pacman on the 5th of may in Vegas.

[rudee]

Agreed,,, Time for Floyd vs Manny.. if not,,, Manny should retire on top. (no Bradley by the way)
Did you guys read Roach's press conference? Said Manny did not do what he was suppose to do.. he went back to his old boxing form.. going to the right.
Roach said he told Manny if he doesnt win the last two rounds he loses the fight. Said Marquez is not afraid of Manny,, and that is his biggest asset.
He lets Manny throw at him and hits him back. Says he will give Marquez a rematch,, BUT does NOT want to... says it will be the same type of fight
over and over. But will give a rematch if the promoter wants to... which Arum does.
Understand there were 1.5 million ppv's sold. Still counting.
Last thing Roach says is, he wants Manny to have a tuneup bout before whomever he fights next... says he needs to get back to what Roach wants him
to do.
He did say he wants Floyd bad!!!
NO mention at all about Manny retiring.. no plans to retire at all... At least 2 or 3 fights more.
Guess the press around ringside was evenly divided on the outcome of the fight. Obviously half Marquez, half Manny.
So,,, from what i have read everywhere,,, looks like a rematch on May 5th.... (so far) with a tuneup bout for Manny.
Marquez got $10 million for the fight! Will get $10 million for the rematch. (if there is one)
Still counting the dough for Manny.... ran out of calculators.

[Yogi]

Agree, the yellow is not yellow but a reflection of the rope, just need to be a bit more focus. You will see them making all kinds of excuses, it happens when you are disappointed. Now they want to spoil Floyd's 5 de mayo by mentioning another fight between them. We want PBF/Pacman on the 5th of may in Vegas.

The ropes are red, white, and blue. That bottle was yellow. lolz

I don't see it being an excuse for anything. If he is drinking his own urine again, more power to him. ;)

[rokko]

Agree, the yellow is not yellow but a reflection of the rope, just need to be a bit more focus. You will see them making all kinds of excuses, it happens when you are disappointed. Now they want to spoil Floyd's 5 de mayo by mentioning another fight between them. We want PBF/Pacman on the 5th of may in Vegas.nsac rules on liquid Question: What drinks are allowed in the corner during a fight?





Answer: Water and electrolyte drinks are allowed in the corner. Any electrolyte drink must be brought to the arena in factory-sealed, plastic bottles. Moreover, a contestant must provide the Commission and its staff with information about the requested drink in sufficient time to make a determination as to whether the drink is approvable (e.g., no stimulants, alcohol, drugs, or other questionable ingredients, etc.). Currently, Smart Water, Option, Gatorade, Powerade and Propel are approved. Energy drinks and soft drinks are not allowed in the corner.

[Fibroso]

nsac rules on liquid Question: What drinks are allowed in the corner during a fight?





Answer: Water and electrolyte drinks are allowed in the corner. Any electrolyte drink must be brought to the arena in factory-sealed, plastic bottles. Moreover, a contestant must provide the Commission and its staff with information about the requested drink in sufficient time to make a determination as to whether the drink is approvable (e.g., no stimulants, alcohol, drugs, or other questionable ingredients, etc.). Currently, Smart Water, Option, Gatorade, Powerade and Propel are approved. Energy drinks and soft drinks are not allowed in the corner.
Then is not piss, he said that Memo was giving him the same juice that Manny gets from Ariza and it works...........hehehehe

[Yogi]

I don't know Fib. I think they should have asked him if they could smell his breath. :tehe:

[Condor]

What I do know is that all Mexico is up in arms over the decision... Of course "we" Mexicans know Marquez won and is the UN-crowned champion.. Well except me..lol....... As I stated before my heart is/was with Marquez..but my betting head said otherwise.. It was close though and again I am extremely proud of Marquez.. If only he was 6-7 years younger...he may have done it.. Salud to all my boxing fanatic friends.......http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w43/stiven8/salud.jpg

[rudee]

Salud, dinero y amor, bolivia

[rokko]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eAhlDjDUHU&feature=player_embedded

[rom x]

thiers not doubt in my mind the yellow stuff was beer. cause we all know the old mexican saying. "no cervesa no trabajo" hehe....

[Fibroso]

I told you that Nacho has learned some tips from PBF of how to WIN a boxing match. No excuses, Manny was suppose to knock him out in the 6,8 or late in the fight. "What happened, I don't know me dicen que por boracho Marquez never se cayó" hehehe

[Chigaro]

I thought he gave the pee up. :tehe::tehe::tehe:

Based on the way Marquez fought, he just signed a multi-million dollar contract to sell his urine at WalMart stores across the world. Apparently, he has a pound for pound set of kidneys!