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rokko
11-22-2011, 06:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqDyyehDtys&feature=player_embedded
Fibroso
11-22-2011, 11:47 PM
Cotto-Margarito bout is on after license approved 21 minutes ago
NEW YORK (AP)—Antonio Margarito has been granted a boxing license in New York, keeping his title fight with Miguel Cotto on schedule for Dec. 3 at Madison Square Garden.
The New York State Athletic Commission licensed Margarito on Tuesday after a medical examination determined he was healthy enough to fight.
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Last week, the commission ordered another examination of Margarito’s eye, which was seriously injured during his loss to Manny Pacquiao last year.
The commission’s deliberate decision on Margarito’s fitness nearly forced promoter Bob Arum to move the pay-per-view rematch to another state.
But earlier Tuesday, Cotto said he wouldn’t fight Margarito anywhere except New York, surprising Arum during a promotional conference call.
Fibroso
11-22-2011, 11:52 PM
You see the difference between Pacquiao and Cotto. Cotto speaks his heart out, he ain't scared of Arum. I'm more than sure that call cost Arum some cash, that's why he was upset with Cotto's remarks. Screw him, let's get it on.............:grr::grr:
rokko
11-22-2011, 11:57 PM
the difference between cotto and pac is the fact that manny wiped the floor with him
Fibroso
11-23-2011, 12:36 AM
the difference between cotto and pac is the fact that manny wiped the floor with him
After we get done with Antonio will fight the little man once more, we'll see what happens this time in 154 pounds even. No catch weight this time. Pac had his better days, he will get his butt kicked soon.
KIDWCKED
11-23-2011, 01:11 AM
I wouldn't dismiss Margarito that quickly.He actually can go 12 rnds.And had Pac stunned and didn't finish!!Cotto on the other hand has been beaten bad bleeding by both.
Fibroso
11-23-2011, 01:59 AM
We know Antonio for a long time, his best times are over. After the win over Cotto he ha lost all his fights. If we let ourselves go by that, he wold be middleweight champion of the world after beating Sergio. I bet Sergio can dispose of him anytime. Cotto is back an you will see that Dec. 3rd.
KIDWCKED
11-23-2011, 02:03 AM
Cotto has taken much worse beatings than Antonio.This will be a great fight.But i don't expect a spectacular come back from either..Salud!
rokko
11-23-2011, 02:10 AM
cotto better jump on him early or he is done--http://i42.tinypic.com/a79s6.jpg
KIDWCKED
11-23-2011, 02:34 AM
cotto better jump on him early or he is done--http://i42.tinypic.com/a79s6.jpg
No doubt mi amigo!!Salud~~~
Fibroso
11-23-2011, 02:43 AM
Cotto has taken much worse beatings than Antonio
Not true, a broken face bone, two surgeries, a ko by Mosley, don't thnk so. Cotto was cut twice, blood is part of this business but broken bones and eye surgery is not. He is bigger than Cotto therefore he'll be heavier, slower than when he fought Manny. If Cotto doe not get tired, he should win every round.
KIDWCKED
11-23-2011, 02:46 AM
But a guy that will fight to the end hard with a broken eye socket and not bleed has better chances in my opinion!
Fibroso
11-23-2011, 12:29 PM
Antonio Margarito's license approved
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By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
After days of uncertainty, the New York State Athletic Commission on Tuesday granted Antonio Margarito a boxing license, ensuring that he will challenge junior middleweight titlist Miguel Cotto in a much-anticipated rematch Dec. 3 at Madison Square Garden.
"There is a fight. This gotta be a chapter in my book," Top Rank promoter Bob Arum exclaimed after watching the commission hearing on a live webcast. The commission had reservations about licensing Margarito because of a serious eye injury he suffered in a lopsided decision loss to Manny Pacquiao last November. Margarito suffered a badly broken orbital bone in his face and developed a cataract in his right eye.
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"We went through a lot and Antonio saw every doctor he was asked to see and all of them gave us the same news -- that everything was great and that there was no reason for him not to be approved," Sergio Diaz, Margarito's co-manager, said. "When we told Antonio he was licensed, he was screaming and he was happy. Now he is saying he has to take care of business come Dec. 3."
Margarito and his team at first considered the injury to be career ending. However, he eventually had cataract surgery and an artificial lens placed in his eye by renowned specialist Dr. Alan Crandall -- who had previously performed cataract surgery on Arum and his wife, Lovey -- in Salt Lake City this past spring.
But as a matter of policy, the New York commission -- chairperson Melvina Lathan, Edwin Torres and Thomas Santino -- denies applicants with the kind of eye issues Margarito has, although it is within its rights to give a license.
The commission denied Margarito a license in early November but granted him a hearing to make his case. It took place last Wednesday during which Crandall and Dr. Rolando Toyo, who has worked as an eye doctor for multiple professional sports teams, testified that Margarito was fit to fight. The commission doctor and a member of its medical advisory panel disagreed.
On Friday, rather than voting on the application, the commission ordered Margarito to leave his training camp in Mexico and fly to New York to be examined by a doctor of its choosing.
Margarito broke camp Sunday night and flew on a Top Rank-charted private plane to New York. He spent Monday seeing doctors.
"We understood New York was trying to cover themselves and get assurances from the doctor they picked. But we felt confident all this time," Diaz said.
In order to be armed with yet another opinion, Top Rank first brought Margarito to see Dr. Kenneth Rosenthal, who is the president of the New York Intraocular Lens Implant Society. According to Top Rank's Carl Moretti, who was with Margarito at the appointment, Rosenthal's opinion was that Margarito was "fit to fight and it was like a travesty if he wouldn't be cleared to fight."
Later Monday, Margarito was examined by commission-selected ophthalmologist Dr. Michael Goldstein, whose report supported those of Crandall, Toyo and Rosenthal.
Margarito returned to Mexico Monday night and the commission convened Tuesday afternoon more than an hour late, and then immediately went into executive session to deliberate. When the commissioners reappeared more than 90 minutes later, Torres, speaking in place of Lathan, who said she had laryngitis, made the announcement.
It included the fact that as part of its decision to license Margarito it had also considered the hand-wrapping scandal that saw him have his license revoked in California for trying to enter the ring with loaded wraps for a January 2009 fight with Shane Mosley and a subsequent 16-month suspension.
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"Evidence has been introduced, including an affidavit from the applicant himself, detailing the rehabilitation steps taken to ensure that all of the rules of the commission will be followed," Torres said. "After due consideration of the evidence of rehabilitation the commission finds the issuance of a license to the applicant not to be contrary to the best interests of boxing."
That was never expected to be an issue in Margarito's licensing, but then Santino turned to the eye issue.
"Further, following the thorough examination performed by Dr. Goldstein and his testimony that it is his opinion that the condition of Mr. Margarito's eye is such that he is fit to be in the ring, the commission rules that Mr. Margarito's petition for licensure in New York is granted."
Moretti, who was at Tuesday's meeting with Top Rank president Todd duBoef, and Margarito's attorneys, David Moroso and Daniel Petrocelli, said they were all pleased with the commission vote.
"The tension in the room, you could cut it with a knife," he said. "I'm drained because all Todd and I wanted, and what all of us wanted, was for this fight to happen in New York because it's important for the sport. You have a Madison Square Garden that is almost sold out -- and I bet it will be sold out in the next day or two -- with electricity running through it. If we had to move the show, it wouldn't have had the same impact. Just the fact that we got the license and it came down to the 11th and half hour, it's unreal."
Said Diaz, "It's been a real pain in the neck but it was something we had to go through. We couldn't run. Antonio has been fighting for this. There wasn't anything any of us were trying to hide about his injury. We were open to any kind of exam."
Arum was glad the saga was over.
"I think you got to commend the commission that they were thoughtful and deliberative and that having Margarito fly in to be examined by a doctor designated by them, while an inconvenience, I think was something that was good to do because you can have doctors opining about this and that, but if they don't examine the patient you can't get a full feel," Arum said. "That being said, the criticism I have is why wasn't this done before the press conference (to announce the fight) in September? One way or another it would alleviated all the problems.
"If he had passed at that time none of this would have occurred. If not, we would have moved on to another state because we felt that having had him treated by Crandall, the leading (eye) doctor in the country, maybe the world, and having a retinal specialist check him out, morally we were on the high ground. We believed his eye was as good as anyone's based on Crandall's treatment."
Had Margarito been denied a license, Top Rank was making plans to move the card, with the Pepsi Center in Denver the leading candidate.
However, Cotto threw Arum for a loop earlier Tuesday when he said on a teleconference with boxing reporters that if Margarito did not receive a New York license, he would not fight. He said he had signed to fight in New York -- where his Puerto Rican fan base has gobbled up most of the tickets -- and would not go anywhere else.
Margarito (38-7, 27 KOs) and Cotto (36-2, 29 KOs) first met in 2008 in what turned out to be a tremendous action fight. Margarito came on strong in the later rounds and stopped Cotto in the 11th round of a bloody battle, taking his welterweight belt at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
Because Margarito was caught trying to fight Mosley with loaded hand wraps in his next fight, and had administered significant facial damage to Cotto in the later rounds, many suspected he had gotten away with wearing illegal hand wraps, making the Dec. 3 fight a much-anticipated grudge rematch.
Fibroso
11-24-2011, 09:32 AM
rokko, I have 296 satfix bux available for this one. So you can go broke, unless you want to rob the bank and bet some more. There's a "Blood" connection for this one and revenge. If you're so sure, put your satfix bux where your mouth is. We will pound that eye with the jab all night long till it bleeds and go for the liver this time. Mosley seems to be a hell of a maestro.
rokko
11-24-2011, 07:45 PM
ok--but lets make it interesting--how about 5000?
Fibroso
11-24-2011, 09:45 PM
ok--but lets make it interesting--how about 5000?
You're on my friend, I see you rob the bank or you have a back up. I gone enjoy beating you and your backups. Margarito was a cock, fighting with artificial spurs, spurs were stripped and things change.
rokko
11-30-2011, 03:42 AM
i ran across this and thought it was cool--http://i42.tinypic.com/i52hw5.jpg
rokko
11-30-2011, 09:00 PM
Margarito embraces role as villain at NY presser
NEW YORK — Antonio Margarito embraced his role as the villain even more Wednesday during a final press conference for his rematch with Miguel Cotto on Saturday night.
“Here comes the criminal,” Margarito said after reaching the microphone in The Theater at Madison Square Garden. “Open the door for the criminal.”
Margarito managed to make their grudge rematch more personal, too, by referencing the infamous fight Cotto had with his uncle and former trainer Evangelista Cotto in April 2009.
Cotto fired his uncle following that incident, during which Evangelista Cotto reportedly threw a cement block at Miguel Cotto. It missed Miguel Cotto, but reportedly broke a window in his Jaguar. Evangelista Cotto suffered minor injuries in the fight, but ended up in the hospital.
“I’ve been called a criminal by this man next to me,” Margarito said regarding Cotto. “I don’t know why he calls me a criminal. I am not a person that beats up on his own family.”
Margarito’s remark drew oohs and aahs from those in attendance, but Cotto remained calm as one of boxing’s most controversial figures spoke a few feet from where Cotto was seated.
“They say that I’m not a great person, that I’m not a gentleman,” Margarito continued. “I don’t know why they say that.”
Margarito then mocked Cotto some more, noting that he isn’t worried about Cotto targeting his surgically repaired right eye in their 12-round fight for Cotto’s WBA super welterweight title.
“He says he’s not going to have no mercy on my eye,” Margarito said. “He can hit my eye as many times as he wants. He hits like a little girl. A super flyweight hits harder. He wants to take it personal. I’ll take it very personal, too. Do whatever you want. He’s not going to beat me at all. Never. Never.”
rudee
11-30-2011, 09:17 PM
This is going to be an all out war.... this will be a Messican and a Puerto Ricanio that hate each other in the ring.
zarate vs benitez..... sanchez vs benitez.... chavez vs rosario... chavez vs camacho..
will be worth watching... one of these boys will be done after this fight.
Winner goes on to win millions more... loser ends up singing kareoke at the local tavern.
Just hope it doesnt end up decided or stopped by cuts.
This fight will not be fit for women and children.... hide them!!!
For us old cabrones,,, means hide yer pets.
Fibroso
11-30-2011, 11:03 PM
This is going to be an all out war.... this will be a Messican and a Puerto Ricanio that hate each other in the ring.
zarate vs Gomez..... sanchez vs Gomez.... chavez vs rosario... chavez vs camacho..
will be worth watching... one of these boys will be done after this fight.
Winner goes on to win millions more... loser ends up singing kareoke at the local tavern.
Just hope it doesnt end up decided or stopped by cuts.
This fight will not be fit for women and children.... hide them!!!
For us old cabrones,,, means hide yer pets.
Good read rudee, even the cabrones ...............
Fibroso
11-30-2011, 11:52 PM
http://www.elnuevodia.com/videos-deportes-insultosentrecottoymargarito-1303203842001.html
Things are getting hot for this fight. Never but never, seen Cotto get pissed this way before. Antonio better be sharp for this one.
KIDWCKED
12-01-2011, 12:00 AM
This could be possibly the fight of the year we have been waiting for..I honestly think it will be.And in my honest opinion fellow cabrones..Hehehehe Maragarito tko..Salud!!
Fibroso
12-01-2011, 03:45 PM
Shadow Boxing: Antonio Margarito Has Plenty Of Sparring To Do Before He Even Enters The Ring
Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:30 pm
Written by: Kevi Iole
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In three of his last three four fights, against Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley and Manny Pacquiao, Antonio Margarito has endured inhuman amounts of punishment. Three of the toughest, most highly skilled boxers in the world have, in essence, had free reign to pummel him about the face and head.
He's been battered and beaten so badly in those fights, it's fair to ask if he'll ever be the same boxer. Every fighter, no matter how tough, can take only so many punches.
Margarito, though, is adamant that, physically, at least, he's fine. He's a fighter, and he's going to come to fight as hard as he can. He loves the macho aspect of the game, the toe-to-toe, me versus you simplicity of it. He'll rematch Cotto on Saturday in front of what is expected to be a sold-out crowd of more than 20,000 at New York's Madison Square Garden and a worldwide pay-per-view audience in a fight that figures to be equally as violent as those other three.
Margarito, though, laughs at the thought that he may shy away from the battle because of the punishment he's absorbed.
"Never," he scoffs. "This is what I do. I don't quit."
For the last nearly three years, though, there has been a curtain of pain and hurt that has enveloped Antonio Margarito and his wife, Michelle. He's become boxing's greatest villain and has been branded as a criminal and a cheater by other fighters, other promoters, media and the fans.
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He sat out more than a year. He cut off a relationship with a man who was like a father to him. He's jumped through every hoop he's been asked to jump through. And yet, little he says has altered the overwhelmingly negative opinion of him.
It doesn't help when Cotto, one of the biggest names in the sport, labels you a criminal and will tell anyone who will listen.
"When you put plaster on your hands and you go into a boxing ring, you're a criminal," Cotto says, adamant that Margarito's hand wraps were loaded when they fought in Las Vegas on July 26, 2008. "That's like bringing into a weapon into the ring and that's criminal."
Keith Kizer, the executive director of the Nevada Athletic Commission, has repeatedly insisted there is no evidence that Margarito's wraps were tampered with that night in Las Vegas.
But because of the events of Jan. 24, 2009, Margarito's life has never been the same. And it hurts him, as well as his family, like no punch could ever do.
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"He's hasn't come to peace [with all of the criticism]," Margarito's co-manager, Sergio Diaz, said. "I don't know if he ever will. It's hard when you know you didn't do anything wrong and people are saying things. Of course that's tough for someone to take."
There are few things more difficult to accept in life than being falsely accused. The question that is outstanding, however, is whether Margarito has, in fact, been falsely accused.
In the moments before he was to walk to the ring to fight Mosley before an adoring throng at Staples Center in Los Angeles, his then-trainer, Javier Capetillo, who was like a father figure to him, began to wrap his hands. Naazim Richardson, Mosley's wily trainer, felt the wrap on the right hand and insisted something was wrong.
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An inspector for the California State Athletic Commission ordered the wrap to be cut off and for his hand to be re-wrapped. When the first wrap was removed, a small knuckle pad with a reddish brown stain on it fell out and was seized.
When it was later examined by a laboratory, it was determined to contain two of the elements that are in Plaster of Paris. Significantly, though, it was never ruled that it actually was Plaster of Paris.
"The question in this whole thing is, who was complicit in this event," said promoter Bob Arum, who has been Margarito's staunchest defender, so much so that it indisputably strained his previously solid relationship with Cotto. "Look: I saw the wraps. I touched the wraps. The wraps were used before. But the idea that there was Plaster of Paris on them is just not true. It's not like the thing felt hard, like a rock. It had two chemicals that are contained in Plaster of Paris. That is true. But those same chemicals are also present in the creams that the trainers put on the fighters' hands before they wrap them.
"But even with all of that, Margarito had no idea about what was going on. I am convinced only Capetillo knew. Even the [California] commission, when it suspended him, said Margarito didn't know. But they ruled because he was the captain of the ship, so to speak, he was responsible for what those on his team did."
In the immediate aftermath of the revelation that something was untoward with Margarito's wraps prior to the Mosley fight, Cotto was silent, even in the face of relentless questioning. Cotto had never been beaten as he had by Margarito six months prior to that Mosley bout. Cotto raced out to an early lead, but Margarito's relentless pressure ultimately wore Cotto down and the fight was stopped in the 11th, his mangled face a bruised and bloodied mess.
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Fibroso
12-01-2011, 03:46 PM
But then, as Margarito's saga unfolded, Cotto began to receive pictures of Margarito celebrating without his gloves on in the ring after their fight. And when Cotto zoomed in on Margarito's still wrapped hands, he said he was stunned.
On his right wrap, there was an area near Margarito's right pinky finger, in which the outer wrapping had somehow fallen off. Could it have been a piece of plaster that broke and fell off when Margarito's gloves were tugged off? Cotto began to believe so, particularly when he saw that same reddish brown stain on the remains of Margarito's wraps which looked so eerily similar to the piece confiscated from Margarito's glove prior to the Mosley fight.
"When the matter of the hands first came out, I didn't want to talk about it because I didn't have a clear view of what happened," Cotto said. "Then, some pictures came out, and I looked at those, and then I had a really good, clear understanding of what had happened in my fight.
"Those pictures told me that he used it in the fight with me. I handled my defeat like a man, and I have for three years, but he wasn't a man to use those kinds of things. He's a criminal to do that."
Margarito has never wavered. He has always insisted that he had no knowledge of the illegal piece that was found in his wrap in Los Angeles that night. He has, he insisted, earned every cent he's gotten through tenacity and hard work.
He abhors the idea of being labeled a cheater. He's been dubbed "Margacheato" by some and "Hands of Stone," by others. Kermit Cintron, a knockout victim of Margarito in 2005 and 2008, has wondered publicly if those knockout losses had been aided by a bit of chicanery.
Prior to the fight, Cintron had been known for a good chin. But he was battered and beaten easily by Margarito in both of their matches.
"I honestly don't know," Cintron said on a conference call. "I have no proof to show he used plaster in my fights. Only he knows. ... It sure made him look bad after he got caught. Were there a lot of questions in my mind about it? Yes. But I have no proof that he used plaster. I believe if you're caught once, what makes you think that he hasn't done it before?"
Margarito has tried to laugh off the suggestions that he's a cheater. His trainer, Robert Garcia, said he's gone so far as to let his hair grow wildly and wear dark glasses all the time to help foster the impression of a bad guy.
But Margarito has been pained by the allegations and what it has done to his family. He's become a pariah, of sorts, among boxing fans and it's caused great angst.
"It has been very hurtful to read and listen to what Miguel says about my husband," Michelle Margarito said. "I read and hear comments that are extremely upsetting. I am proud of what my husband has accomplished. I admire his dedication and love for his job. He's great husband and an even better human being."
Top Rank president Todd duBoef said Margarito doesn't enjoy the villainous role that the Mosley saga has imposed upon him. Arum said Margarito has been extraordinary loyal and thankful to him for his assistance in building Margarito's career.
Long before the hand wraps controversy, Margarito remained at Arum's side during a trial in Puerto Rico in which Margarito could have gotten free of his ties to Top Rank.
"He's been an honest, loyal guy ever since I've known him," said Arum, who has promoted Margarito for more than 10 years. "There are a lot of people who talk, but they talk without knowing all of the facts and they're jumping to conclusions that simply aren't true.
"If I thought for a minute that this kid had knowledge of [the illegal wraps], I'd have dropped him so fast you couldn't believe it. But I really studied this situation and it became obvious he had nothing to do with it. So how I could I dump him just because people who didn't do the research that I had and who don't know what the hell they're talking about are criticizing him? I couldn't. I had to stand by him, even if it were unpopular."
Arum has been like Margarito's guardian angel since the night of the Mosley fight. Arum zealously supported Margarito at a contentious hearing in front of the California commission, and angrily compared a deputy attorney general who was presenting the state's case against Margarito to Adolf Hitler.
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He gave him a fight against Pacquiao and, after that bout when Margarito had serious eye injuries, brought him to highly regarded ophthalmologist Alan Crandall. He saved Margarito's career and, perhaps, his eyesight.
"Tony called me a few months after the Pacquiao fight and he said, 'Robert, you're my trainer and you've been my trainer for a couple of fights now and I think you deserve to hear this from me: I'm retiring,' " Garcia said. "He told me that he couldn't see out of the eye and if he couldn't see, he couldn't fight and would have to retire."
But Arum interceded and took Margarito to Crandall, one of the foremost ophthalmologists in the country.
Crandall removed a cataract, implanted a new lens and ultimately saved Margarito's sight, and career.
The heat on Margarito has only increased as the fight nears, and it's clear it's not something he enjoys. But Margarito hopes that his performance on Saturday -- both before the fight and during it -- will end the doubts, and the criticisms, forever.
"I have never cheated and I tell you, I never, ever would," Margarito said. "If Cotto wants to come to my [locker room] and wrap my hands before the fight, he can do that. Anyone who wants to watch, hey, I don't care, let them watch. I have nothing to hide. I would rather everyone watch [my hands being wrapped], because then they'll know for sure that nothing is wrong.
"And then, when I go out and do to Cotto the same thing I did the last time, they'll know what the truth is."
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