View Full Version : Chavez Jr and Nonito on Feb 4th
rudee
12-29-2011, 04:23 AM
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Nonito Donaire, two of boxing's brightest young stars, will fight in separate bouts on HBO's "World Championship Boxing" on Feb. 4 at the Alamodome in San Antonio, promoter Top Rank announced Wednesday.
Chavez will face Mexican countryman Marco Antonio Rubio in a scheduled 12-round middleweight bout, although it is unclear if Chavez will be defending the WBC version of the title.
Donaire, one of the top pound-for-pound fighters in the world, vacated his two bantamweight belts and is moving up in weight to face former junior featherweight titlist Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. for the now-vacant 122-pound belt Vazquez used to hold.
A news conference to announce the card is scheduled for Tuesday in San Antonio.
108mob
12-29-2011, 05:24 AM
Soundz Good Nice First Line Ups For 2012
Fibroso
12-29-2011, 11:54 AM
Donaire, one of the top pound-for-pound fighters in the world, vacated his two bantamweight belts and is moving up in weight to face former junior featherweight titlist Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. for the now-vacant 122-pound belt Vazquez used to hold.
This will be a good one, after Nonito's last event against the Argentinian, doubts where created about his performance, not being able to ko a smaller faster man. On the other side the Puerto Rican displayed a nasty performance against an old Mexican warrior Jorge Arce after his father's intervention, a stoppage in the last round that cost him the first and only lost. Some time back, I predicted this event, I said if Nonito wanted to conquer the 122 pounds he had to beat this young Boricua. This will be the greatest test for both boxers. A Classic event to start up 2012. Chavez/Rubio is more of the same to me. JMO
Fibroso
12-29-2011, 12:10 PM
Donaire vs. Vasquez Jr.: A fan’s predictionC/P Boxing News 24
http://www.boxingnews24.com/wp-content/themes/b24/images/PostDateIcon.png December 27th, 2011
http://www.boxingnews24.com/wp-content/uploads/donaire32.jpg (http://www.boxingnews24.com/wp-content/uploads/donaire32.jpg)By Jimmy M: This is my first time writing an article. I am on my winter break and I made a commitment to myself that I would write a “blog” of my thoughts in the world of boxing. As we all know, Nonito Donaire will be fighting Wilfredo Vasquez Jr. on February 4, 2012. This could be either an entertaining fight or a lop sided boring one, if it can go pass the “feel-out” stage (my little saying for rounds 1-3 or 4).
Donaire, a quick, with decent power boxer, can fight on the outside and use his speed to keep his opponent at bay. Vasquez Jr., a relatively new member of the boxing world who can counter punch if his opponent misses and also slug it out on the inside if the situation arises. Both fighters have skills that they can use to their advantage. But how could this fight turn out? Nonito is, in my opinion, the Paul Willams of the lower weight classes. Standing at 5’6”, Nonito Donaire is used to fighting opponents smaller than him. This is not to say that his size is the reason he is so good. It just means that he has adapted well to fighting smaller guys. Aside from his size, “The Filipino Flash”, has speed. Nonito is a lot faster than most (if not all) of his opponents. In his fight with Montiel, Donaire relied on his speed to win. Although, Montiel telegraphed most of his punches, it was Nonito’s quick reflex and speed that determined the outcome of the fight.
Wilfredo Vasquez Jr., son of the great Wilfredo Vasquez, is surprisingly a good fighter. At the age of 21, Vasquez jr., began training with his father. Despite his timing, Vasquez jr., quickly rose to the top. Vasquez has good reflex and can time his punches, which makes him a pretty good counter puncher. In the Hernandez fight, Vasquez Jr. was counter punching with hooks all night eventually winning by TKO. He can also slug it out as seen in his fight with Hernandez and Arce. Vasquez is also always focused. Even when being pressured, Vasquez is always in his stance and always determined.
Both of these fighters have their skills to rely on. But what really matters is who will use the skill to their fullest potential. Nonito Donaire and Wilfredo Vasquez Jr. are almost identical in size, according to Boxrec.com. Because of the size similarity, it should turn out to be an interesting fight. I don’t hear the “easy fight for Donaire” story here because he is not fighting someone smaller.
Donaire really has to think in this fight. Why? Well for one, Vasquez is a good counter puncher. Donaire, although fast, is open for counter punching. You can see in some of his fights, Donaire lunges in with his right hook. If “WV2” (Vasquez’s nickname) can counter quickly enough, he could take advantage of Donaire’s hooks, maybe with a quick right, hook. Vasquez is a fairly good inside fighter and this could be his tool to winning the fight. Vasquez needs to counter and work his way to the inside and not rely on his weak jab and keep constant pressure inside. Yeah, Vasquez lost by TKO, this doesn’t mean that he is overrated; it means he can stay cool. Throughout the fight, Vasquez stayed calm and collected. This “focus” skill can really help Vasquez and use it against Nonito. Nonito often loses focus and gets distracted if things aren’t going his way. Example, his last fight against Narvaez, Donaire was too busy trying to knock him out and consequently, had some moments where he was getting hit with some pretty good shots. Vasquez lack of distraction can prove distracting to Donaire if he comes in with the mindset that he will easily like he did in the Narvaez fight. Nonito will think that he isn’t doing enough to move Vasquez and lose focus in winning the fight.
Vasquez also has is flaws also. Vasquez does not do well when being pressured. Vasquez, against Arce showed that he can’t fight well against the ropes over a long period of time. Arce continued to pressure Vasquez throughout the fight, eventually wearing him down in the 11th round and beating him in the 12th. If Donaire can pressure Vasquez consistently, I think he can pull of a victory. Donaire, although not a constant pressure fighter, has the ability to do so. Because of his speed, Donaire can constantly put gloves in front of Vasquez’s face, blinding him with speed. The most important key for Donaire is his stance. Nonito is a southpaw, this could prove advantageous. The thing I admire about Vasquez is his technique. He is always in his stance and rarely off balance, his right hand as ear muffs. But this is where the problem for Vasquez lies. His right hand is always up. What about his left hand? Vasquez has a fairly weak and somewhat lazy jab and he seldom brings it up to his cheek. Donaire can feed off of this and throw his powerful right hook after every jab. If Donaire can use his speed and power he should be able to pull of this victory in possibly a KO fashion.
This fight is extremely important for both fighters. Wilfredo Vasquez Jr., coming off a TKO loss almost a year ago to a smaller opponent, has to redeem himself and prove he can make it against better fighters in the Bantamweight class. Nonito Donaire constantly being criticized for fighting smaller opponents has to prove that it’s not his size that wins fights, it’s his skills. These fighters have to pressure each other and can’t wait until one of them makes a move. Or else it could turn out to be a long night. Both of these fighters are counter punchers, so the person to shoot first and keep shooting is likely to win. Thanks for reading!
rudee
12-29-2011, 04:21 PM
I agree,,,, the Chavez fight sounds like more of the same b.s. whats the use of even fighting if its not for the title?
They just feeding Chavez and Canelo stiffs. Eventually they will fight each other... thats what they banking on.
Nonito and Wilfredo should be a good one.
We have to get some good fights going here... we are all getting ansy here... but lets face it.. not many really good fighters out there.
I think that Rubio is going to be a big challenge for Chavez Jr. Rubio is a good experienced fighter. In April of this year, he took out David Lemieux who was 25-0 with 24 KO's. If Chavez can get by Rubio, I will give him credit for being better then I thought he was.
This will be a good one, after Nonito's last event against the Argentinian, doubts where created about his performance, not being able to ko a smaller faster man. On the other side the Puerto Rican displayed a nasty performance against an old Mexican warrior Jorge Arce after his father's intervention, a stoppage in the last round that cost him the first and only lost. Some time back, I predicted this event, I said if Nonito wanted to conquer the 122 pounds he had to beat this young Boricua. This will be the greatest test for both boxers. A Classic event to start up 2012. Chavez/Rubio is more of the same to me. JMO
Narvaez being able to survive the fight without being knocked out, had nothing to do with him being smaller and faster. It was because he hid in a defensive shell the whole fight. I don't expect Donaire to KO every fighter that he fights. Even Mike Tyson, who was known for his KO's, had a few fights that went to the score cards, before his lost to Buster Douglas.
Fibroso
12-29-2011, 08:11 PM
Narvaez being able to survive the fight without being knocked out, had nothing to do with him being smaller and faster. It was because he hid in a defensive shell the whole fight. I don't expect Donaire to KO every fighter that he fights. Even Mike Tyson, who was known for his KO's, had a few fights that went to the score cards, before his lost to Buster Douglas.
Like they say "you can run but you can't hide", it was a little bit of both. Some thought he wanted to ko him so bad that he didn't. Well that its over with, now he 's fighting a bigger guy, lets see if he holds a punch to do the same in this weight class. Vasquez can take a punch and can also punch hard enough to put him to sleep a while.
rudee
12-29-2011, 11:41 PM
I remember that fight Yogi.. he did an excellent job.. though David did not look very sharp in that fight.
Still thinking they want Canelo and Chavez to win another 3 fights each, then fight each other someplace in Mexico.
The fight would not draw fllies here..
That is why they both keep fighting in Mexico. Getting the fans warmed to the task.
Gotta admit,,, a Chavez vs Canelo fight would be very entertaining.. I don't regard either one of them very highly.
It would be nonstop action though. I do have to give chavez credit though.. he has a set on him...
I remember that fight Yogi.. he did an excellent job.. though David did not look very sharp in that fight.
Still thinking they want Canelo and Chavez to win another 3 fights each, then fight each other someplace in Mexico.
The fight would not draw fllies here..
That is why they both keep fighting in Mexico. Getting the fans warmed to the task.
Gotta admit,,, a Chavez vs Canelo fight would be very entertaining.. I don't regard either one of them very highly.
It would be nonstop action though. I do have to give chavez credit though.. he has a set on him...
I pretty much agree with that. I am not a big fan of either of them. They both have been protected quite a bit. I think Canelo has been protected a lot more then Chavez has been lately. To me, they make too much out of both of those guys. I don't see them being anymore then prospects at this point. Maybe one day they will truly be good, but for now, both Golden Boy and Top Rank are going to milk them for all they can.
Fibroso
12-31-2011, 12:41 AM
Meanwhile the other event is gone bring some excitement much needed in boxing this days. Nonito will have a big contender in front of him for the first time in his boxing career. Now he needs to show his skills, which I know he possess. Vasquez needs to do a lot better than the last time or else. The mexican fans at San Antonio will have themselves a banquet on 2012.
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