View Full Version : KHAN (vs. Peterson) VINDICATED - Immediate REMATCH ordered by WBA
aquariusone
01-13-2012, 09:49 PM
These were the grounds under which the WBA ruling of an "immediate rematch" was ordered (released by GBP and Khan just an hour ago):
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“Peterson’s split-decision victory over Khan in Washington DC has been riddled with controversy as a result of a plethora of anomalies.
“Acting under its authority pursuant to WBA Rule C.26, the WBA concluded that the bout’s outcome was impacted by referee Joseph Cooper’s questionable failure to credit Khan with a knockdown in round one and his questionable decisions to deduct points from Khan in rounds seven and 12.
“As further cause to order the rematch, the WBA also pointed to Mr [Mustafa] Ameen’s apparent intrusion into the scoring process as well as possible discrepancies between the score sheets of the two sanctioning organisations and the local athletic commission.
“In its resolution mandating the rematch, the WBA went out of its way to note that, under normal circumstances, it would not disturb the discretionary function of a referee.
“However, in this case, because of the multiple irregularities, it was necessary for it to order the rematch.”
AQUA's take:
This certainly redraws the boxing prospects of 2012. First, Peterson is now eliminated as a possible contestant against Pacquiao if the Mayweather clash falls through. Should Khan now solidly takes back his crowns from Peterson in a "neutral" venue (without referee/other interference), he would go after Mayweather by late fall.
Second, more than ever then, Arum should set aside differences with Dela Hoya, who has co-promoted Mayweather's fights, and get down to negotiating basics. Although Mayweather claims to be "his own promoter", he has never done anything on his own. Now is the time to get serious. After his "tweets", he should prove to the world that he is ready to face what he has, for two years, considered his nemesis - against whom he has made it nearly impossible to meet in the ring.
With all the conditions he demanded more than two years ago no longer issues, the world wants this to happen - NOW.
This morning, Roach has announced that he and Pacquiao are all set to get in the ring with Mayweather.
ADDED BREAKING NEWS:
In spite of what I have stated above, it now seems that we can forget about PACQUIAO/MAYWEATHER for May! Apparently, the Mayweather camp has given up on Robert Guerrero as "another possibility". Instead, they are going after SAUL ALVAREZ. They feel that this would be a high ticket clash as Mexicans all over the world would want to watch CANELO fight regardless. (They would not be drawn by Mayweather's popularity, they say.)
So where does that leave us with Pacquiao? It is looking more like a May fight with TIM BRADLY or MIGUEL COTTO. So let us forget also a COTTO/MAYWEATHER fight for now.
Yawwwwwnnnnnnnnn! Wake me up when the dust settles!
108mob
01-13-2012, 10:07 PM
Enough Of Pacman Already Thats How I Feel What We Can Expect Is Another Wack Fight This Year From Him As Always !:tape:
rudee
01-13-2012, 10:41 PM
Yeah,,, looks like Mayweather vs Canelo fer shur... Oscar really pushing for it. Just wants a big payday... Canelo aint got a prayer..
would probably be 12-1 underdog... doubt it would sell... Canelo has not looked good at all.
Manny vs Cotto would be good... should happen in NY though.. would probably do better over there. Madison Square Garden.
Fibroso
01-13-2012, 11:22 PM
Yeah,,, looks like Mayweather vs Canelo fer shur... Oscar really pushing for it. Just wants a big payday... Canelo aint got a prayer..
would probably be 12-1 underdog... doubt it would sell... Canelo has not looked good at all.
Manny vs Cotto would be good... should happen in NY though.. would probably do better over there. Madison Square Garden.
Hey rudee, good to have you back... hope Cotto gets a crack at Manny, now in what weight class 147 even for Mannys little. Arum is to smart, it'll be in a catch weight for Cotto's 154 belt.
rudee
01-14-2012, 01:47 AM
Hi Fib... just tired of the manny vs floyd thing...
now that it looks like both are fighting other people,,, i will jump back in...
I would have to admit,,, the way Cotto has looked lately,, a Manny vs Cotto rematch would be
very attractive. i would pay to see it.
Floyd needs a good matchup... noone really out there for him.
Send some rain over here Fib.. we dry as a bone in southern ca.
aquariusone
01-14-2012, 02:06 AM
Hi Fib... just tired of the manny vs floyd thing...
now that it looks like both are fighting other people,,, i will jump back in...
I would have to admit,,, the way Cotto has looked lately,, a Manny vs Cotto rematch would be
very attractive. i would pay to see it.
Floyd needs a good matchup... noone really out there for him.
Send some rain over here Fib.. we dry as a bone in southern ca.
I will send you rain, sleet, snow, and frigid weather! I feel like a polar bear!
Mayweather fighting a chump? I didn't see that one coming. lol
I would have a lot more respect for him, if he tried to get a fight with Cotto or at least a "B" level fighter. :rolleyes:
Fibroso
01-14-2012, 11:53 AM
Hi Fib... just tired of the manny vs floyd thing...
now that it looks like both are fighting other people,,, i will jump back in...
I would have to admit,,, the way Cotto has looked lately,, a Manny vs Cotto rematch would be
very attractive. i would pay to see it.
Floyd needs a good matchup... noone really out there for him.
Send some rain over here Fib.. we dry as a bone in southern ca.
Not to much rain lately, hurricane season is over. You should take a vacation and come on down. Cotto deserves a rematch, wont be easy for Manny this time. I see an upset in the making, Cotto's trainer really shocked me with his techniques used in the Mr. Magoo's rematch.
I will send you rain, sleet, snow, and frigid weather! I feel like a polar bear!
Come on down, is winter vacation time. You'll see the new breed of pugilist we have down here.
Mayweather fighting a chump? I didn't see that one coming. lol
I would have a lot more respect for him, if he tried to get a fight with Cotto or at least a "B" level fighter. :rolleyes:
Patriotism, that's the key word, to each it's own. First Cotto was done,now he's the best of the bunch, I'm sure opinions can be different coming from "Mexico lindo y querido". We all be satisfied if Manny was the one, to get it over with.
The Cobra
01-14-2012, 03:09 PM
These were the grounds under which the WBA ruling of an "immediate rematch" was ordered (released by GBP and Khan just an hour ago):
http://ringtalk.com/wordpress/http://ringtalk.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Amir-Khan10.jpg
“Peterson’s split-decision victory over Khan in Washington DC has been riddled with controversy as a result of a plethora of anomalies.
“Acting under its authority pursuant to WBA Rule C.26, the WBA concluded that the bout’s outcome was impacted by referee Joseph Cooper’s questionable failure to credit Khan with a knockdown in round one and his questionable decisions to deduct points from Khan in rounds seven and 12.
“As further cause to order the rematch, the WBA also pointed to Mr [Mustafa] Ameen’s apparent intrusion into the scoring process as well as possible discrepancies between the score sheets of the two sanctioning organisations and the local athletic commission.
“In its resolution mandating the rematch, the WBA went out of its way to note that, under normal circumstances, it would not disturb the discretionary function of a referee.
“However, in this case, because of the multiple irregularities, it was necessary for it to order the rematch.”
AQUA's take:
This certainly redraws the boxing prospects of 2012. First, Peterson is now eliminated as a possible contestant against Pacquiao if the Mayweather clash falls through. Should Khan now solidly takes back his crowns from Peterson in a "neutral" venue (without referee/other interference), he would go after Mayweather by late fall.
Second, more than ever then, Arum should set aside differences with Dela Hoya, who has co-promoted Mayweather's fights, and get down to negotiating basics. Although Mayweather claims to be "his own promoter", he has never done anything on his own. Now is the time to get serious. After his "tweets", he should prove to the world that he is ready to face what he has, for two years, considered his nemesis - against whom he has made it nearly impossible to meet in the ring.
With all the conditions he demanded more than two years ago no longer issues, the world wants this to happen - NOW.
This morning, Roach has announced that he and Pacquiao are all set to get in the ring with Mayweather.
ADDED BREAKING NEWS:
In spite of what I have stated above, it now seems that we can forget about PACQUIAO/MAYWEATHER for May! Apparently, the Mayweather camp has given up on Robert Guerrero as "another possibility". Instead, they are going after SAUL ALVAREZ. They feel that this would be a high ticket clash as Mexicans all over the world would want to watch CANELO fight regardless. (They would not be drawn by Mayweather's popularity, they say.)
So where does that leave us with Pacquiao? It is looking more like a May fight with TIM BRADLY or MIGUEL COTTO. So let us forget also a COTTO/MAYWEATHER fight for now.
Yawwwwwnnnnnnnnn! Wake me up when the dust settles!
Yeah, that last line about says it all aqua.....but...
Cobra`s take..
Mayweather would beat the crap out of Khan countering all nite long for which Khan`s only defense would be the offensive right hand he owns...for about 3 rnds at the most. Then Khan wouldn`t win another round.
aquariusone
01-14-2012, 04:11 PM
Yeah, that last line about says it all aqua.....but...
Cobra`s take..
Mayweather would beat the crap out of Khan countering all nite long for which Khan`s only defense would be the offensive right hand he owns...for about 3 rnds at the most. Then Khan wouldn`t win another round.
First, thanks, Fib! I enjoyed your country a few years ago...fabulous weather...and golf courses!
2nd...Wow, finally....a chance to disagree..once more....
Khan did not get to where he is by chance or fluky circumstances. This guy started boxing like the great Ali (who is turning 70 next week)...at age 11. He has accumulated a lot of trophies since then and beat guys like Marco Antonio Barrera, Marcos Maidana, and the then undefeated Dimitry Salita, by knocking him down 3 times in 76 seconds. The brash tough talking Paulie Malignaggi said, "I could not keep up with him; he is bigger, faster."
Because of his "flash KO" lost to Prescott, he has been maligned...like having no defense. Keep in mind, the best defense is ......"offense"!
Khan is on his way up. He is a very young, strong, and fast 25-year old. Mayweather is 35. The odds are getting better for Khan. Stylistically, it would be a great match.
MoMoneyMoHoney
01-14-2012, 05:36 PM
I think its too early for Khan to fight Mayweather. Despite his attitude/personality, Floyd is a genius when it comes to boxing.
Chigaro
01-15-2012, 04:17 PM
i think mayweather is too good for all of the fighters mentioned in this thread and even pacquiao who disappointed me with his last performance.
peterson could knock out khan next fight, if he fights the same way he did in their bout, so i don't think khan is even a realistic potential opponent. be honest, he's not that good and looked bad in this last fight.
cotto will be too slow for mayweather and probably loses in a decision. he has the heart of a lion and will fight to the end, but he'll struggle to get even close.
canelo is a intriguing match up, because the boy can punch and hasn't felt the sting yet. he's worth a roll of the dice but you know he's not close to the same talent as mayweather, but i'd like to see him hit mayweather many times.
pacquiao needs to fight a lot better than he did against marquez, or mayweather will avoid his punches and elbow him away. i'm tired of all the bs keeping the fight off and truly believe that both parties don't really want the fight.
let's face it, mayweather is a great boxer that we all hate and want to see get shut up and beat down. so far, no fighter is even close to that.
Fibroso
01-22-2012, 01:12 PM
Lamont Peterson appeals WBA ruling
ESPN.com news services
LONDON -- Lamont Peterson's camp submitted an appeal to the WBA asking it to overturn a decision to order a rematch against Amir Khan, the British fighter who lost his WBA and IBF belts in a disputed bout.
Khan's camp withdrew an appeal on Tuesday to the IBF over the split-decision loss, saying it was concerned he wouldn't receive a fair hearing. Peterson's management team said the move vindicated the American's victory.
Khan was challenging the outcome of the Dec. 10 bout, claiming he was unfairly docked two points for pushing Peterson and implying fight judges may have been influenced by a "mystery man" seen sitting next to them at ringside.
The protests led to the WBA granting a rematch, which Khan's backers, Golden Boy Promotions, announced would be staged within 180 days. That is now being challenged by Peterson.
"A comprehensive written appeal has been submitted to the WBA and we are confident that the WBA will overturn its decision mandating an immediate rematch and recognize Lamont Peterson as the true and final WBA Jr. Welterweight World Champion," Peterson's camp said in a statement on Wednesday.
They were buoyed by Khan's team withdrawing its appeal ahead of an IBF hearing that was scheduled for Wednesday in New Jersey.
"Team Peterson feels this development serves as a form of vindication as it relates to the ruling of the IBF that Lamont is the IBF Junior Welterweight Champion of the World," Peterson's camp said. "Furthermore, this ruling essentially turns back the clock to Dec. 11th and provides a number of options for Lamont to explore as he continues his professional boxing career."
They insisted that, despite speculation, there are "no open negotiations" about a rematch in Washington.
Peterson reaffirmed that he wants to remain the united IBF and WBA champion.
"Now that this is over, I am ready to move on," Peterson said. "As I said before, as champion I plan on representing both sanctioning bodies to the best of ability and that means fighting the best fighters in the world in defending my titles."
Khan has been campaigning for weeks after claiming poor refereeing and interference with fight judges were behind his loss.
Khan arrived in New Jersey on Tuesday for the scheduled IBF appeal hearing, only for his camp to pull out and express concerns about only "partial representation of fight officials."
"We are not going to go somewhere where we feel we can't get a fair shake, that's the bottom line. I feel it is impossible to get a fair shake with the IBF," Golden Boy promoter Richard Schaefer told ESPN.com. "What we are saying is enough is enough, let's get the rematch done. But to go to listen to some kangaroo court, what's the point?"
The IBF issued a statement in response to Golden Boy Promotion's criticisms, saying it was "unfortunate" that it had to defend its integrity "when every step to provide a fair and just hearing for both parties was taken and was given the utmost importance."
Khan wants a rematch so badly that Schaefer said Khan authorized him to offer Peterson a 50-50 deal. That's a surprising move since Khan would generate the bulk of the revenue, because of his exclusive contracts with HBO in the United States and Sky Sports in England.
Golden Boy previously offered Peterson at least $1 million for the rematch, but that was turned down. Peterson made a career-high $650,000 for the December fight, while Khan made well in excess of $1 million.
"We hope we can begin the negotiation with Team Peterson right away," Schaefer said. "We want these negotiations to be straightforward and respectful. In that regard, Amir really wants that rematch and would agree to split the worldwide revenue 50-50.
"It would be a much-anticipated rematch and HBO is obviously interested in airing that rematch. We want to make sure it is financially and professionally satisfying to Lamont to get this rematch done."
When they met in Peterson's hometown of Washington, D.C., last month in one of 2011's best and most controversial bouts, Peterson (30-1-1, 15 KOs) won a split decision against Khan (26-2, 18 KOs) to claim two 140-pound belts.
However, Khan had two points deducted for pushing -- an almost unheard-of foul call -- in the seventh and 12th rounds by Washington-area referee Joe Cooper. Without the deductions, Khan would have retained the belts via unanimous decision.
The unexplained presence at ringside of the "mystery man" -- later revealed as Mustafa Ameen, who does unpaid voluntary work for the IBF -- added to the "plethora of anomalies" that the Khan camp claimed marred the fight.
Video footage showed Ameen, who wasn't authorized to be at ringside, distracting judges and leaning across WBA supervisor Michael Welsh during the fight.
Ameen told the BBC on Wednesday that he was simply correcting mistakes made by Welsh on his scorecard.
"I noticed one error and a subsequent error. I assisted him in correcting it without touching anything," Ameen said.
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