Thanks for the list,
Just querious, among those defending themselves, any of them represented by an atterney?
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Thanks for the list,
Just querious, among those defending themselves, any of them represented by an atterney?
[QUOTE=joeblow;938361]anybody who has gone to court most likely has made an agreement that they will not have anything to do with FTA for as long as they live....which would include posting on these forums....
as for people defending themselves....this is how well they did....
here is what happens when you stick your head in the sand and ignore legal documentation.....
all i know is, i would find a friend and have them post what i would
say happened throughout the whole process,,,if for no other reason than to
inform the FTA community,,,i figure i owed that much for all the
help i got over the yrs
besides, what are they (dn) gonna do track every website you visit and post at??
just to make sure you dont spill the beans?? LOL i mean come on man,,,
everything said on these forums are , HEARSAY...lol
and,,,as for these calls to negotiate b4 a case hits the courts??im not sure
about that advice,,,that would mean you are allowing THEM to win a case
BUYING A CODE ONLY, without suporting evidence?? i mean geezaloo
IF that was all those dingalings had on your asss?
why in the world would anyone give in with such CRAP??
whats that word im looking for?? ahhh
EXTORTION, letters??
I do not think it's just about buying the a code what I do not know is can they use the finks pms on us and the response we gave like, thanks works like a charm. Even though you donated through PP and for some reason PP gave up your address so they can find you. How do you defend against that?
I admire your bravado but the short answer is to spend the least money possible. Isn't that what FTA is all about anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by ftaalltheway
all i know is,,, that list posted by joeblow (liker that nic) lolQuote:
Originally Posted by hondoharry
doenst do this topic any justice,,,cuz, to many of us, DA cases had a whole
lot more supporting evidence UNLIKE magi letter and others with buying codes
sure let dn have at it and then millions more letters will follow, is THAT what youd
like to see happen?? cuz that is the trend here with all these panicking
settlements,,,imho
i just think it would be interesting to know how one of these cases went?
what ever happened to free speach,,,arent all cases public knowledge
or is everything NOW settled in deepest secrecy?? why is that what does DN
have to hide??
it is not extortion at all, some people may call it being nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by ftaalltheway
they dont HAVE to offer a settlement before they serve you, they could have skipped the settlement letters and served people right away with a notice to appear in court, they are offering people an easy and CHEAP way out!
going to court is a gamble, and in my opinion the odds are not on your side, just look at the list i posted, i dont care what attorney you hire, they are not going to be half as good as the DN/nagra attorneys are, your attorney will look like Lionel Hutz from the Simpsons compared to theirs! LOL!
forum posts, PMs, and emails will all be used against you as evidence!Quote:
Originally Posted by rainman2
that is why i always say keep your mouth SHUT ON HERE!
people who go around saying things like "great UFC fight last night, thanks NFPS!!" are complete idiots, is that not an admission to guilt or what?
there has only been one W*FM*N case settled and here is how it went.....Quote:
Originally Posted by ftaalltheway
DISH Network L.L.C. et al v. Yelverton Settled $10,000.00
Listen Foker, all you did was c and p my post. I put a lot of hard work, in that list. Do your own work if you are going to take credit for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeblow
I think the point was to see a case that actually went to trial. Obviously folks whose lawyers explained the risks opted for the settlement route since we haven't seen one case with a judgement yet. And they definitely would have spent a lot less money accepting the extortion offer.
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Originally Posted by alex70olds
listen here jerk off, i never took credit for anything, i said i posted it, not created it, learn how to read
You are, and always have been an idiot, and know absolutely nothing of which you post. Read that moron!Quote:
Originally Posted by joeblow
translation = yes you were correct joeblow, but i am not man enough to admit itQuote:
Originally Posted by alex70olds
no you''re wrong b00b...you should've put c/p before that post since that's all you didQuote:
Originally Posted by joeblow
thats my point,,,isnt that what "magi" is doing?? hope HE reports backQuote:
Originally Posted by hondoharry
just what it is dn had/have on HIS ass other than the "buying code"
crap and elaborate on how it all went in court,,i mean come on man
NOT everyone is sworn to "secrecy" right?
helll if you cant afford to give them one red cent then whats another 10 g notes?
in the grand scheme? they, DN will still get NADDA not directly, or 50% from
any of their collection dept (if they have one),,,all they really would get is SOLD to a 3rd party collection
which will also get NADDA
so to say its BEST to settle at the outset?? works for VERY FEW
in this game,,,if I got such a letter? since i have no interest
in settling (even if i could) i would tell them where to go
cuz no matter what i call them they cant use anything i say against me in court
cuz this is all about $$$ NOT criminal,,,they know theyre idiots anyways and
so are all their trolls
its differnt if we are ONLY talking a few hundred bucks THEN
i might argue they are being fair BUT their claims are so far-fetcched
it makes me sick and chuckle at the same time
and btw- joeblow,,,everything said on this forum AGAIN, is HEAR SAY
what is it about THAT you dont get??? git,,, THE ONLY time anything is used
against you is IF you tie everything up and I MEAN everything,,,otherwise
all those sites they shut down since IKS came into play they would
have nailed many many more thousands,,,cuz lest we forget,,we were all so very laxed
with some of our info in pms and posts and it hasnt been until just recently
we are all really taking extra security measures,,,imo
Not only that, indicate who and where you got it from.Quote:
Originally Posted by dishuser
dude, you have no clue,Quote:
Originally Posted by ftaalltheway
when they get a court judgement against you they will freeze your bank account, take every last penny from it, if that does not cover the amount, they will take your assets, if that doesn't cover the amount, they will take your paychecks directly from your employer, or any other source of income you have (government issued checks) until its paid off....
they WILL GET THEIR MONEY, unless you are somebody who has no assets, no bank account, and no formal/taxable income, who could possibly live the rest of their lives like that? a homeless person i guess,
a judgement like this can, and will, destroy your entire life for many years to come....people may act all tough and care free, before hand, but just wait till that hammer falls, then they turn into crying babies,
let's see that happen with someone from florida...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by joeblow
it allll depends what exactly they have on a peepQuote:
Originally Posted by joeblow
i can have all the evidence i think i need to prove my claim
against a person in civil,,,and it all looks so honky dory in
letters and stuff
UNTIL you discover they are missing a few pieces to PROVE
their claim,,,THATS why a first meeting
B4 going to trial is WHEN you find those details out ALL at
NO EXTRA COST,,,ITS YOUR RIGHT as a defendant
and then
what happens
in THOSE cases where they have diddly,, as one discovers
during THAT fist meeting?? and then goes to trial
and one points out the LACK of evidence that is
suppsoed to tie everything up?
"dismissed"
of course IF you find they have MORE?? nothing stopping you
from settling,,,BUT to suggest you do this right when you get their FIRST
letter?? pffftt
go check the texas court's "federal civil cases" that are dismissed, daily,,,see
if you sing that same tune...lol
bump bumpQuote:
Originally Posted by dishuser
Edit this post was NOT meant for you DU correction follows to joeblows
Its common practice to state its a CP and name the source.. Care to apologise for your comment.. Copying someone elses post without giving credit is not acceptable behavior..Quote:
Originally Posted by joeblow
only my two cents well that's all i got in my pocket right now so the he forgot to say or put C/P from where or from ho and now what is he going to get a court letter to lol :lol:
maybe you should learn the rules of this siteQuote:
Originally Posted by skywalker999
RULE #17
~C&P FROM OTHER SITE~
When copying a post from another site, please leave the authors name in it so we know who the author is. We dont want to steal others credit, just share their insight and info. They deserve to be noted for their work
winning a judgement and collecting are 2 different ball gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by joeblow
have YOU ever been through it> i have and let me tell ya,,its almost
impossible to get blood form a stone,,,do YOU really think most dudes
in this game are all in a financial position, contributing to society, paying taxes
dik knows very well most are living on the edge and are on some kind of
disability,,,most peeps are freetvers cuz they CANT afford anything else other than
a used antenna...this is alllll about showing their MIGHTY POWERS,,,THAT is all
collecting disability is a form of income and would be taken as payment toward a judgement....note where i said "government cheques"Quote:
Originally Posted by ftaalltheway
I suggest you read and respond to your PM's before I act..Quote:
Originally Posted by joeblow
**** you, how is that for a reply?Quote:
Originally Posted by JCO
Good one , watch my reply it wont be long..:hand:Quote:
Originally Posted by joeblow
ya,you're not a moron :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by joeblow
So is there anyone else that wants to disregard the sites rules and defy staff.. I'm willing to continue playing the game...LOL
I have seen only 2 cases in the list where D!5H has pursued "Writs" to collect judgments. one is Ech0 V Steele. He has like 5 vehicles.
It aint like the S0nicview case, they are turning every rock over collecting that judgement.
Still only 9 Wuf cases. Not sure why, (possibly because they don't have server logs?) I would have expected a lot more, but still a lot of time left on the statute of limitations.
I think the "We will seize your cars, trucks, motorcycles, R/V's, snowmobiles, wife, kids, dog and cigarettes"....depends on what state you live in. Not every state allows that B.S.
They aren't the damn IRS folks....they are only DN/Nagra. Some of you people talk like they are God. At least that one guy did that isn't with us anymore. ;)
Code:http://www.ckfraud.org/judgement.html
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*Getting a judgment is only the beginning in a collection process. The losing party rarely writes a check at the courthouse. The more usual scenario finds the winner continuing to use the judicial system to enforce a judgment.
Well these cases are in federal court. Not sure what that means in terms of collection.
Its a civil procedure, getting a sentence is easy collecting it could be problematic depending on the persons assets..Quote:
Originally Posted by hondoharry
This is fact. I have a 6 figure judgement in favor of my company, it aint easy to collect.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodusme
I am afraid the, of late joeblow, is the one having no clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeblow
"When they get a court judgement against you" simply means that they can then ask the court to issue a writ, of which can name different tacks, one writ for each, and then given to a law enforcement entity for execution...At a cost for each, of course. Every step beyond the court requires $.
Before doing this, however, they would need to have the court call in the defendant on what's known as an "Orap" (order of appearance of a judgment debtor), so that his/her assets can be verified. After all, how can they seize his car, for example, without knowing what make, model, license plate, and where it's kept? Oh yes, and assuming they do go through with this, they are the ones who have to pay for towing and storage, and if there are monthly car payments, they have to be sure the payments are made, or the lender can then seize the car. Now of course once liquidated, they could go through more legal paperwork to tack on all of these expenses they've incurred. Would it be a safe bet that they most likely won't go this route?
Now what about his bank account? Once he's been in court and given the information, that or the next day he simply closes the account(s) and opens new ones at another bank. No law against that.
I don't believe Social Security payments can be garnished. Not sure about any other form of government income, such as disability, however.
How about garnishing his wages? This is really the only viable way, and then only if he has a steady employer. Wages can be garnished for up to 25% of monthly gross pay, but there's a caveat here; if they are already being garnished, this judgment creditor has to wait until the previous garnishment amount is satisfied, before his can be activated.
Don't ask me how I know all this. Getting the judgment is the easy half of the equation. Collecting on it is the trick.
finaly,,someone who "gets" it... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by alex70olds
exact same procedures have to be followed in all civil at all levelsQuote:
Originally Posted by hondoharry
its very simple,,,the winner HAS to go to court EVERY single time they wantQuote:
Originally Posted by fifties
to effect a garnishment and apply to the courts to approve an amount
that is done for every time they want to collect through the courts, on the very same judgement
cuz they cant get it in one lump sum
only other way is sell the debt to collections and then THAT is where they basically
GIVE UP cuz most times collection agencies dont get SQUAT IF one knows how to play
about the ONLY neg there, would be your rating,,,anyone care?? hell ive gotten lines of credit
with one bad debt on file many times ,,,so freaking what,,,so long as DIK gets ZERO??
id be happy go lucky
and watch my freetv all over again ,,, meaning, EF U DIKheads ;)