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*EDIT* Didn't work anyhow. I checked it on my password. I think its MD5 then basically the MD5 hash with salt included within the MD5 hash. Its confusing on how its compiled and not really what I specialize in. I'd have to ask some buddies on one of the boards.
Nope, no one from staff did it so your first "guess" was wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodusme
You still couldn't figure out by yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodusme
This has nothing to do with the thread so will stop nowQuote:
Originally Posted by MarvinGardens
Like I said....is the posting and registering still going on?Quote:
Originally Posted by MarvinGardens
Its a simple yes or no answer.
Who eventually figured it out? I took it for granite that they had ASCII and Unicode blocked on here or I would have known right away. That was the reason it led me to believe it was staff as they would be the only ones that could resurrect a banned nick. I was banned from here some time ago.
Lets not let this go sideways and turn into a p!ssing match. Since I can see you are wanting to feel 'superior'....I'll go ahead and be the bigger man (I am anyways) and walk away from this thread now.
Have a good day....and go ahead and say "HI" to Cadman for me will you? ;)
LMFAO I edited it, but good catch lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodusme
Cool!!! I was wondering about that. I'm just a script kiddie. I'm not going to be the one to tell him though.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodusme
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Eh Rotten's an OK guy I'm sure if you presented the question respectfully to him he wouldn't have a problem with you questioning it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azul2
Basically the only 'device' that can see your MAC address is the next device in the path on the way to your destination. So in other words your ISP would see your MAC as you connect to any website....but even they only see your 'last' MAC so they would see your router MAC if you are behind one. They don't see your computer MAC ever. Then as your traffic passes through their (meaning the ISP'S) router and is forwarded to the next 'hop' or router.....that MAC is inserted in the packet and forwarded on and so on and so forth....until your packet reaches its final destination.
The packet will contain the MAC of the last device through which it passed when it arrives at the website. Every router builds a table of all connected devices and forwards the packet based on that table. Your i.p. remains constant through the entire packet travel but your MAC does not it will be swapped out at each 'hop' or router.
If I change my i.p. address can the man get me again.
I depends on what they got before. At some point you have to take a look at risk vs reward, or return on investment.Quote:
Originally Posted by rainman2
Damn I send somebody a pm and it's advertised in the shoutbox. Nothing like saying HEY Dick I'm here
I think that is only displayed to you and the one you PM'ed. Nobody else sees that. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that is how it works.Quote:
Originally Posted by rainman2
I sure do hope that's how it works.
Sod is correct as pm message in the shoutbox is only for you and person you pmed.You can disable notifications in shoutbox settings options.Quote:
Originally Posted by rainman2
LOL thats true. The problem I have, is with the PM function of the shoutbox itself. I always manage to click off the PM mode, and respond for all to see lmao.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gamer
You just got to play with buttons don't you! Boy old habits are hard to break.:tehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by alex70olds
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Originally Posted by JCO
What I failed to mention in my post 530 is I NEVER filed for bankruptcy, never denied denied owing the money, the bank just wouldn't accept my payback schedule of $5 a month. lol When I appeared in front of judge on the 2nd (this one not taped to door) hand-delivered summons, explaining situation, he instructed me to confer with bank atty. in hallway, & comeback in courtroom when done. The atty actually was ok , wouldn't take the $20 I had in my wallet, suggested the sheriff inventory any belongings not on homestead exemption deed. That way the bank could charge-off what was owed as non-collectible & that would be the end of it. He also suggested the "bad service" excuse if the judge asked why I didn't respond to first court summons taped to apt. door. Indeed upon returning to court when the judge asked " Why hadn't I answered the original summons" I feigned ignorance, not knowing anything about it. He then asked sheriff's deputy who checked his log & said it was taped to the top left of apt. front door. With that he stated I wouldn't be held in contempt & an additional fine added to sum already owed. That was 35 years ago for the paltry sum of $1200 for one credit card. lol Did it ruin my credit rating ............ LOL .............. I wish lol .........my only regret none. Would a $10K judgement hanging over my head be of concern? Not likely as obtaining a judgement & collection are TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT MATTERS!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by rainman2
well, NAG has NOTHING to do with these cases, right??Quote:
Originally Posted by Anubis
dont NAG have their own attorneys? and DN theirs?
these letters are for iks connections why would NAG be involved??
if they had their cards compromised BUT to say they get involved with iks codes as
though the security of their cards has been comprinised is well, HOGWASH
this has been a misnomer for much too long and posts by so called JJee
and others (impostors)
over at the defunct site was very funny cuz THAT is where it all started
all to do with "scare mongering" ,,,nothing more nothing less
fact is, they could care less about IKS connectivity THATS DN's PROB
funny this thread has been though and for those who doubt me,,,
get a hold of NAG and find out for urselves what lawyers represent whom,,,
even IF their (dn's) "extortion" letters leads one to believe otherwise
they are 2 seperate entities
IF NAG was involved? youd see many more
of these tactics BUT with MUCH more SEVERE consequences/penalties
Sorry but you are absolutely wrong....Quote:
Originally Posted by ftaalltheway
Code:http://dockets.justia.com/docket/texas/txsdce/4:2013cv01227/1075979/
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Plaintiffs: DISH Network L.L.C., EchoStar Technologies L.L.C. and NagraStar LLC
Code:http://dockets.justia.com/docket/mississippi/mssdce/1:2013cv00020/81009/
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Plaintiffs: DISH Network L.L.C. , EchoStar Technologies L.L.C. and NagraStar LLC
Code:http://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/caedce/1:2013cv00107/249347/
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Plaintiffs: EchoStar Technologies L.L.C. , NagraStar LLC and Dish Network L.L.C.
Code:http://dockets.justia.com/docket/florida/flmdce/2:2013cv00043/280083/
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Plaintiffs: Dish Network L.L.C. , Echostar Technologies L.L.C. and Nagrastar LLC
Code:http://dockets.justia.com/docket/kentucky/kyedce/2:2013cv00012/71690/
Please get your facts straight before accusing others of 'fear mongering'. Would you also like to tell the masses how safe IKS is now too? I'd be glad to go head to head against you with why its not.Quote:
Plaintiffs: Dish Network L.L.C. , Echostar Technologies L.L.C. and Nagrastar LLC
ok after reading all that, if I decide to settle what's the prove they wont come after me again. Before paying the 3500$ could they send me a letter mention that they won’t pursuit me if future. did anybody negotiate before settling. Did anybody paid and get confirmation about it? Did anybody went to court and win the case?
Where you a member of ABADSS? Here you might want to check this thread out.Quote:
Originally Posted by sami1977
http://www.satfix.net/showthread.php...DN-3500-demand
I would think just as they request in writing that you won't be a 'bad boy' again....you could request the same? I don't see why not? Of course they may not agree to it but I don't see why you couldn't draft up something that they could not pursue you further regarding the same matter.
this is why i suggest getting a lawyer regardless,Quote:
Originally Posted by sami1977
let a lawyer settle this for you, even if you are paying the settlement fee, you need a lawyer to get a legal document written for you in return for your settlement fee that states you can no longer be sued for this in the future,
I was thinking along the lines of double jeopardy but that only applies in criminal cases. So the term you are after is: res judicata which loosely translated means 'already adjudicated' but I don't know how it applies to matters of the same wrong doing or matters of accusation alleging different wrong doing. You'll need an attorney to sort that out but that is the term you are looking for.
Question for the people who get the second letter to pay 5000$ what happened next after 30 day ? Did get letter for 7500$ or court letter or what
It is an interesting question. Of all the non-DA letters that have gone out, only 11 have made it to court in the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by sami1977
Hey guys, long time member here incognito, lol. I recently got a letter too, with the "evidence" listed against me I noticed that the two different IP address' listed are not mine, when I look them up it shows they come from Amsterdam. I bought from wuf, and it shows my old user ID from here and my email. Think I got anything to stand on here with the IP address listed not being mine? its also showing different des keys, stuff isn't adding up on my letter. What do you guys think?
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Originally Posted by nboxman
Best to consult a lawyer. Not to be negative and hope my opinion is wrong but I personally don't think the IPs to Amsterdam changes much if the evidence they have showed you subscribed/purchased to the service other than they will say/suggest you used a proxy from Amsterdam to try to hide your true IP identity but a lawyer could say different. Why would anyone from Amsterdam being using the service. ?
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The Amsterdam IP was the one you were connecting to.Quote:
Originally Posted by nboxman
Thanks I appreciate the feedback, I'm defiantly going to talk to a lawyer on Monday. Thing is, I never used a proxy, I think they didn't have enough info on me and just pieced a bunch of BS together to try and get me scared. Hasn't N*P* always used the same DES key?
Ohhh, well that just shot my little bit of hope down, lolQuote:
Originally Posted by alex70olds
No, that IP is not from a proxy. Where you a member of the ABA site?Quote:
Originally Posted by nboxman
Nope, only this one since I started doing this stuff about 3-4 years ago. They even listed my old ID from here on my letter
I was just curious. The only thing they have from here is what Wuff gave them. The more incriminating thing was the re-seller control panel at eltwenty. com. Which is now papio. The reason I asked about ABA, is they have the complete db and our using that to corroborate other info.Quote:
Originally Posted by nboxman
I know this question had probably been asked 1000 times, but I just cant read through 300 pages of threads. Have any end-users actually been to court for this yet?
I can only tell you about the US. There have been exactly 11 cases filed (due to wuff). I thought it was in this thread, but I may be mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by nboxman
The IP is the server and all they need is that you purchased a code , If you do nothing taking a chance they will file against you and they will no doubt only cost $400.o to file against you. Wuf really screwd a lot of folks. The only real choice is to settle a lawyer will tell you same thing. It will cost way more to defend. Good luck. From what I've read they'll take payments als Hagen and boys.
I've read a few folks had success with making a payment plan, have any details been posted about what cost per month, how long, etc.? I just had a kid and this was all from some crap my neighbor talked me into doing with him. I don't even mess with this anymore, I got to figure something out. I've only got like $600 to my name right now
every settlement will be different based on what you can afford for a down payment and monthly paymentsQuote:
Originally Posted by nboxman
not trying to rub salt into your wounds, but you knew what you were doing was illegalQuote:
Originally Posted by nboxman
with any type of illegal activity there could be very serious consequences
your neighbor might have suggested this to you, but it was still your decision to act upon it
if my neighbor suggested that i rob the corner store with him, i would say no in fear of being caught, understand?
your cheapest route will be to consult a lawyer, get the lawyer to work out a payment plan for you with hagen, DO NOT contact them yourself, do not ignore it, it will only get worse from this day on,
solve the small problem, before it turns into a nightmare,
ignoring this will totally F your life up for many years to come
good luck to you,
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Originally Posted by alex70olds
Ok I misunderstood.
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