DN $3500 demand

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Originally Posted by struckrk

Typical defenses being i bought the 20 codes but didnt use them or i didnt know what they were for or it was just a donation or lets see someone hacked my paypal account or whatever stupid excuse me and alot of other people on here tried to come up with to get out of this. You know what worked for me,paying the $3500

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You guys need to get some lawyers with balls,, My friend beat his easily. Didn't even go to court and they had to pay him for his time in the matter.. Identity theft is a really big problem in the USA and it's almost impossible for them to prove it didn't happen to you.. My identity got stolen a few years back and i still have problems with someone opening bank accounts, credit, emails accounts, paypal accounts ect... It happens to people everyday.. I was hesitant to post this on here because of all the feedback on the matter..

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Originally Posted by harescrambleracer

You guys need to get some lawyers with balls,, My friend beat his easily. Didn't even go to court and they had to pay him for his time in the matter.. Identity theft is a really big problem in the USA and it's almost impossible for them to prove it didn't happen to you.. My identity got stolen a few years back and i still have problems with someone opening bank accounts, credit, emails accounts, paypal accounts ect... It happens to people everyday.. I was hesitant to post this on here because of all the feedback on the matter..

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now that's funny...lol

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Originally Posted by harescrambleracer

I was hesitant to post this on here because of all the feedback on the matter..

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How DARE you post in this thread with ONLY 15 posts showing in your stats? ;-)

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Originally Posted by harescrambleracer

You guys need to get some lawyers with balls,, My friend beat his easily. Didn't even go to court and they had to pay him for his time in the matter.. Identity theft is a really big problem in the USA and it's almost impossible for them to prove it didn't happen to you.. My identity got stolen a few years back and i still have problems with someone opening bank accounts, credit, emails accounts, paypal accounts ect... It happens to people everyday.. I was hesitant to post this on here because of all the feedback on the matter..

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Would love to see you and one of your lawyers with balls in court. If you don't answer the letter and they file a judgment against you it can remain for 10 years and if you live in Delaware it's good for 20 years. They can also be reinstated before the time runs out so essentially your on the hook until you pay or file bankruptcy.

Not really a funny matter for the ones that got screwed by Wuf. But lessons learned for all. lol

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Originally Posted by kboom

Would love to see you and one of your lawyers with balls in court. If you don't answer the letter and they file a judgment against you it can remain for 10 years and if you live in Delaware it's good for 20 years. They can also be reinstated before the time runs out so essentially your on the hook until you pay or file bankruptcy.

Not really a funny matter for the ones that got screwed by Wuf. But lessons learned for all. lol

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Its not just wuf anymore

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Originally Posted by torpainter

Its not just wuf anymore

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so someone got a letter from a diff re seller ?

torpainter do u know somebody else that got the letter who is not from wuf.

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Originally Posted by harescrambleracer

You guys need to get some lawyers with balls,, My friend beat his easily. Didn't even go to court and they had to pay him for his time in the matter.. Identity theft is a really big problem in the USA and it's almost impossible for them to prove it didn't happen to you.. My identity got stolen a few years back and i still have problems with someone opening bank accounts, credit, emails accounts, paypal accounts ect... It happens to people everyday.. I was hesitant to post this on here because of all the feedback on the matter..

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Never ever heard of that, that some plaintiff paid a defendant who never went to court for his time.



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Originally Posted by harescrambleracer

You guys need to get some lawyers with balls,, My friend beat his easily. Didn't even go to court and they had to pay him for his time in the matter.. Identity theft is a really big problem in the USA and it's almost impossible for them to prove it didn't happen to you.. My identity got stolen a few years back and i still have problems with someone opening bank accounts, credit, emails accounts, paypal accounts ect... It happens to people everyday.. I was hesitant to post this on here because of all the feedback on the matter..

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Alright let's stop the BS. Identity theft yea right the judge will believe that one. Let's see they stole my pp acct, also got my address
and also got my ip address and all the other stuff that D**h has on you. They are gonna give w****n 300 yrs for how many identity thefts? Sorry that will not fly in this case. You can only cry wolf so many times then nobody will believe your story n'or the other hundreds if not thousands cry the same story.I may have been born at night but not last night.

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Originally Posted by harescrambleracer

You guys need to get some lawyers with balls,, My friend beat his easily. Didn't even go to court and they had to pay him for his time in the matter.. Identity theft is a really big problem in the USA and it's almost impossible for them to prove it didn't happen to you.. My identity got stolen a few years back and i still have problems with someone opening bank accounts, credit, emails accounts, paypal accounts ect... It happens to people everyday.. I was hesitant to post this on here because of all the feedback on the matter..

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Not buying that.

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Originally Posted by harescrambleracer

You guys need to get some lawyers with balls,, My friend beat his easily. Didn't even go to court and they had to pay him for his time in the matter.. Identity theft is a really big problem in the USA and it's almost impossible for them to prove it didn't happen to you.. My identity got stolen a few years back and i still have problems with someone opening bank accounts, credit, emails accounts, paypal accounts ect... It happens to people everyday.. I was hesitant to post this on here because of all the feedback on the matter..

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Until you get the letter yourself...STFU.

It would actually be very easy to prove or disprove an identity theft claim. Think about it all they would need is your big three credit bureau reports. Hell even a landlord can get access to those so its not difficult. If it didn't show anything 'suspicious' than that shoots that claim down.

For it to work...emails do get hacked...ip's are not a person ..per say ..credit cards all so plus am sure PayPal get some .. and if there is no isp logs or server logs for direct connection .

In D.A ..cases I would say no ..

Possible ...or pink elephants in a hail storm .

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Originally Posted by 1boxman

For it to work...emails do get hacked...ip's are not a person ..per say ..credit cards all so plus am sure PayPal get some .. and if there is no isp logs or server logs for direct connection .

In D.A ..cases I would say no ..

Possible ...or pink elephants in a hail storm .

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Hacked email....yes. i.p.'s do not equate to a person....yes. Credit cards stolen....yes. Paypal stolen or hijacked....yes. But put all those together, happening to one single person and that's quite a stretch to believe.

I still say the best defense is to argue that the DMCA law sub-paragraph being pointed to in the demand letter cannot be proven in this case. If they had went with any of the other sub-paragraphs it would be a moot point.

You can't accuse someone of intent to distribute marijuana when you catch them with a single joint. Just like in this case you can't accuse someone of 'actual' theft of service when all you have are some codes that may or may not facilitate the theft of service. And yes I know, I know they have so much more....but they don't really. They just think they do. It looks good on paper but it really doesn't mean sh*t.

This is a good read to see how it works in the real world from a Fed site.....no Made for TV courtroom.
If you go thru and read the steps and proceedures you will see there are many reasons most of the cases don't end up in actual court room. This stuff it pretty much sorted out well in advance. I in no way say the plantiff has the upper hand even if they seem to have there ducks in a better row, there is the arbitration and reasonable limits which may end up much less than ask for by the plaintiff.

This is a link...I hope it isn't what is considered a live link. If it is maybe someone can correct it so it can still be used or found.

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http://www.fjc.gov/federal/courts.nsf/autoframe?OpenForm&nav=menu4a&page=/federal/courts.nsf/page/203?opendocument

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I enjoyed the read, hope others may also.