It would cost you minimum $7500.00 to have a defense so best is to settle only cost them $400.00 to file against you , Then if you bury your head good chance default judgement of $10,000 will be on you . Good luck with that.
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It would cost you minimum $7500.00 to have a defense so best is to settle only cost them $400.00 to file against you , Then if you bury your head good chance default judgement of $10,000 will be on you . Good luck with that.
That would not be advisable as it could very well result in a criminal matter prosecuted by the US Attorney.Quote:
Originally Posted by fifties
See "18 USC 1621". It carries a maximum of five years prison.
Notice they're sticking close to the lawyer's home base - Texas. If I got a letter in Texas I'd seriously consider negotiating a pre-lawsuit settlement.
that's where they started with DA and then they moved furtherQuote:
Originally Posted by hondoharry
There are 2 more now, in Indiana.
A friend of mine met Dave in court, who was suing her solely on the basis that she bought an unlooper from a busted dealer.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheff
She beat them, but it cost her the 5 grand they were trying to extort, in her legal fees. She was damned however, if her money was gonna go to Dave, lol.
Of course an attorney's advice on this would be the last word.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarvinGardens
They may be able to photograph a satellite dish on one's rooftop, but "it was there when I moved in" would be difficult for them to disprove, and it's doubtful that they could show evidence of purchase or ownership of a satellite receiver.
how is it other resellers feel safe unless not based in us or even canada hope they r in mexico or offshore like the mothership server.did some1 from dn buy codes off wuf & thats how he got in trouble? lot ???? mite be answered soon.
that's exactly what happenedQuote:
Originally Posted by caretaker69
read the docs
curious though,,, why isnt this posted on satscums?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anubis
to me,,, its all so ridiculous,,,to think a person can donate (buy a code)
and claimant not even have to PROVE it was even used??? something wrong with this world
when DN and their lawyers can even make such a case,,,so then if
they can point to an enduser connecting to servers?? wouldnt thousands and thousands more be
in same boat,,,thhis is cherry picking at its best,,,
or, it can be a test case for going after endusers,,,imho
They have 3 they served so far. Rest assured there is more coming. Satsc**ms is not going to post each individual on a daily basis. Wait and I am sure you are going to see a whole list of end users that judgment was made against. It just the trickling effect right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ftaalltheway
there are 4 more now for a total of 5, but i must say i dont understand how they can prove a dollar amount when they cant proveQuote:
Originally Posted by ftaalltheway
the code was ever used.
notice how they word it a "pirate satellite receiver" as opposed to an FTA receiver
that claim is full of crapola
they are actually trying to make it look like the enduser is actually decrypting the signal
by saying they are receiving the CW that is coming from the IKS server, blah blah blah
,,,lil known fact
forgotten by many,,,few yrs back, DN used to have a channel advising endusers they might be watching
their channels illegally if using anything other than their own equipment, along thos lines
anyways, he went on to say, words to the effect,,,"if you had someone install equipment
that gives you access to free channels, pls know it is illegal" and youd be better to contact us to subscribe
with propper equipment,,,these installers are selling you unauthorized equipment and is illegal
this was all an attempt to scare many BUT they realized that many endusers were fully UNAWARE
they were breaking any laws under the DMC...
once THAT message failed, DN tried other tactics,,,this is their last ditched attempt,,,after reading this claim
i would be floored if they won,,,unless of course they have lawyers working both sides of the fence,,and WHO would be the wiser??
i wished i had loads and loads $$$$$ i would happily pay that endusers' lawyer fees
BUT i would
make damned sure I would get the very best and who could care LESS
about DN and their cronies and show the judge just how DESPERATE they are,,,
they can't...yet they are still claimingQuote:
Originally Posted by iq180
Defendant violated 47 U.S.C. § 605(a) willfully and for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain
to which a GOOD lawyer should argue,,,there is and never was a "commercial advantage" and/or "financial gain"
as an ENDUSER
therefore the damages to DN are inconsequential,,,the judgement, then, if anything
should be in the mere hundreds
NOT thousands like those who sell the hardware and decrypt signals
...BUT we all know they always get a judge to see it their way,,,well, in the past
hopefully a new judge will see this for what it TRULY is,,,"scare mongering" at its best
if DN dont want endusers to view their shiate for FREE,??? go after the servers THERE is your
problem,,otherwise IKS will ive on as long as you cant touch them,,,now i cant wait till they go
after all endusers who loaded the software (bins) from all those sites they took over (shut down)
so laughable :) :)
From reading everything that I found about the purchases and Law actions, the common element seems to be Pay Pal and of course the Mod that helped !!! Has anyone seen anything else ???
Under the DMCA they can seek actuall damages OR Statutory (isp?) claims. It is what we do in the US, bow to lobbiests.Quote:
Originally Posted by iq180