Hmm well must work for those taking it as many that are out there are...or they just don't care
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Hmm well must work for those taking it as many that are out there are...or they just don't care
Some resellers are turning to 3rd party middlemen companies that act as an intermediary between PayPal or the credit card companies. 2CO is based in the United States and I believe that they will be extremely cooperative when the authorities come knocking. The money trail still leads to your front door.
Click2Sell.eu on the other hand is based in Lithuania and are less likely to respond to a US company's demand for information. Ultimately, when push comes to shove and a subpoena for information is obtained, that money trail still leads to you.
Money orders in the mail are slick. Instruct the seller to send the "information" to a disposable email address (e.g. @mailinator.com). You do have to trust that the seller won't just pocket your money or say it never arrived.
you can use fake info with most WU outletsQuote:
Originally Posted by NOKIA™
That's right, a lot of users just don't give a darn. Look at the legal documents that have been posted that are full of legit e-mail addresses and verified PayPal accounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy carl
For some people nearly-free TV is as addictive as crack, and they'll do anything to get it...
If you pay cash for a prepaid visa gift card, register the card under fictious name, use this card for funding on PP after you set
up a fictious e-mail and fictious PP account the only thing that can be tracked is IP address. No bank info or soc # needed!
Or you can find someone who will simply accept a green dot MoneyPak that requires no info and use It ..... (Now That's Safe)
If your in Canada you should be fine with Paypal... I'm one of them that should of gotten a letter from D*ck net..
but never did... They probably had all my info... not much they could do if I'm in Canuck land..
Ya I live there...and I'm thinking about a renewal. Maybe stuffing the brown bag and meeting behind Wallymart makes some sense after all. Maybe stuffing an envelope with xxxx bucks or so, slapping a stamp on it and mailing it. Might be worth the chance,. All the seller has to do is post his mailing address...or not...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishbum
I found most of them already... who would have thought sesame street was realQuote:
Originally Posted by lester
Hi,
I use WU without any ID, I create a bogus email account via hot mail or gmail from an internet cafe, I then retreive my donation info logging into my bogus email address from the same cafe.
That is extremely safe!!!
in the US they require ID...you could get a fake ID i guess but where will it end?Quote:
Originally Posted by Transcon
free TV=acting like a criminal..lol
GreenDot Moneypak is the very best way period !!!!!
Which services use GreenDot? Still loooking ...
bear in mind, to load moneypak on to Paypal, you have to provide personal info including SS# which paypal will verify. If someone will take moneypak number bypassing PayPal, you should be in good shape
I can vouch for this. That is exactly what I did. Greendot Moneypak works and hopefully there will be other options since the nfps fiasco.Quote:
Originally Posted by clarkBENT
what about the pre pay visa cards....are does accepted by iks providers....hard to trace sense theirs no info about u on the card.
How bout if I put XX$ on a Money Pak. Send the seller the Money Pak number and tell him it has XX$ on it. He then adds that throwaway Money Pak card to his PayPal and transfers XX$ to his already setup PayPal. When he see's XX$ is in his Pay Pal account, he can deliver the product that you have negotiated. Sound correct?
If you use prepaid card on PayPal without registration you will be OK no matter where you come from.:no:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishbum
Greenport Money pak is great option for a user who is looking to find a secured and anonymous way of payment for their donation codes in the USA.
I am sad to informe you that Pay pal is cracking down on seller or anybody who take payments from Green Dot MoneyPaks. So this method of payment will soon not be an option for seller. Check this announcement form Pay Pal below.
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PayPal we regularly screen activity in our system. A recent review of activity on your PayPal Account indicates that you may have been informally accepting Green Dot MoneyPaks as a form of payment. The Green Dot MoneyPak was designed for the purpose of depositing cash in to your PayPal account for retail purchases, not informal payment acceptance. We ask that you discontinue using the Green Dot MoneyPak in this way. Continued use of the MoneyPak in this manner will lead to limitations on or closure of your PayPal Account.
Yep! I for one won't even entertain buying at PP anymore. But for the seller, they really need to do some intensive investigation on security for themselves and for the enduser or this is going to come to a halt in the not to distant future.Quote:
Originally Posted by ELMASCHINGON
from what I can understand Canadians can not buy a moneypack, or at least I cant find a way/place to get one in Canada,
it sucks since the donation I want to make only accepts moneypak,
any ideas
Not sure if that as been told aready but it is easy to open a paypal account with a vanilla MC card....YOu can be 100% anonymous if you are wise(Make sure to log in via VPN).
BITCOINS !!
Heres one i have seen for a while and been checking it out....there will be fees on top of normal donations from peeps receiving donations as transfers are different but completely anonymous .....takes longer though but worth it i believe. Heres some links for peeps to do there homework and check it out.....
thanks
Code:http://arimaa.com/bitcoin_get/
https://localbitcoins.com
http://coinmill.com/BTC_USD.html
http://bitcoinme.com
Just learned that most banks here in Canada won't issue money orders without ID anymore.
They always have requested id. At least for the last 20 yrs I know of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Open Sky
It is so they can make sure funds are going to intended person to track it.
It is even worse than that. Don't you think Charlie monitors forums like this. Capturing the IP's from the sender is easy. Monitoring the IP's of servers associated with this experimental hobby is also easy and the server IP's as well as ports are readily available on many forums. Capturing the IP's of the requester to the server is easy. Who the the ISP is information open to the public. This tells them approximately where you are. Proof that you are in regular and mostly in constant contact as the requester to the server is enough for your ISP to release your information. There is no other reason to be in regular and mostly constant contact with the server port that does not serve web pages other than to receive encryption codes. Capturing the packets you receive also is proof of your activity. I do not see any guaranteed safe way to study this experimental hobby so how you pay is not the threat for single users that I would be so single minded about. Sending cash will not make you invisible. Prepaid cards, fake names, nothing you can do will change this short of paying for a service that masks you IP. In closing if you want to be safe you would need to obtain an untraceable E-mail address and a few services for this do exist and then send cash to the provider providing them with that E-mail address. You could only communicate with your E-mail via a service that masks your IP as well as use this service for your box. This would make you as invisible as possible but even all this would not totally protect you if Charlie was willing to put enough resources on you; rest assured for you that do this that the return compared to the cost to catch you makes it not worthwhile doing from Charlies perspective. You are safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by donzo
This is correct, what happen with wulf/satlobo was becouse HE SOLD his database not paypalQuote:
Originally Posted by yappapi
im tired to explain this to the users
theres international banking laws, that needs international aprovals for digging onto an pp account
if that where the case, ALL MEXICAN NARCO WILL BE POOR becouse of banking leaking information
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Originally Posted by tirolocop
Greendot Moneypak so far, is the safest and the easyist to use. Walk into the store and you could leave your wallet and ID in the car pay in $20 increment the amount you want to put on the card and it will cost you $4.95 for doing it. So say you want to put $40 on the card. If you walk into Walmart for example with your cash it will cost you $44.95 Quite a number of resellers are offering this now and have been if you ask. No need for the customer to hold a risky PayPal account.
Not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by tirolocop
PP gave up transaction history for nexiks, newgen, Razor etc etc. All the need is a subpoena, which US courts give quite frequently. Please dont mislead your US Clientele. Gracious.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were already filled out and just waiting for a signature and date at the rate things are going.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by alex70olds
if u analyze it all, is it really worth having this....have of the time your down or freezing...MY PPVs been down 2 days now....u pay for a service that does not work half the time....and u run the risk of the Justice Department coming after u....this hobby has is pure garbage.
90% con
10% pro
not worth it
Justice Dept. doesn't come after you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ftanewbie
Yes it is a risky hobby but so is sky diving and crossing the road.
also based on what you pay if even you got 30-75 channels open for the full time the donation is paid for you still would have paid less than having a sub for year at min-29.99 per month.. this has always been testeing not tv for life.. we had time it was out for months... if person are looking for free tv then get motor on a dish and cruz the sky lots of free stuff on the FTa sats.. and you need not buy or upgrade your reciver to do heck u dont even need internet or a fancye mpeg4 reciver.... this is just a hobby and yes person do make money on like my self but it has and all ways will be a hobby and a way to push ones personal knowlage not all but for the one like my self and other that just like to fig how things work.. as for ppv that not here know there as having most if not all the general channels up and still getting services is blessing in it self.. if you have been in this game long enough then you would know that this last motnh has be a test to all..... and guess what the fact we are still going is proff that the there is enough pro to this than con...Quote:
Originally Posted by ftanewbie
just my 2cents...
FYI- THIS IS NOT FREE TV BUT TESTING..... IKS has made all seem to forget what this orginal hobby was all about to start...:noidea:
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Originally Posted by ftanewbie
I've been around since the BUD days and I've not see it this bad and your right. That's one reason I have NetFlix $8 a month and streamed is well worth it. I'm probably going to let my donation run out and when it does I'm done. Receivers now day are even cheap cr*ap and over all not worth it. Like you say up/down up/down freezing and people telling ya when you mention they are down it's almost always the same answer it in you equipment. Not us. Or the sites screaming they got screwed by the reseller so you as the customer get screwed and your donation is dropped. Yea, I just don't need that. It use to be great, a fun good hobby. But things have changed. JMO.
LS HD Air
Dish HD
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Originally Posted by satcom4
well i would agree with u if, lets say out of a month u get 3 weeks of interruption free programing , then i would say yes is worth it...but is almost everyday now were down....like today all channels in the 110 are black out....forget about it Providers are winning this battle and eventually this war...is looks to me they figure out how to ECM on a daily basis the CAMS IKS seeders.
we been thru worse we will always find a way to keep going.... the war is only over when we stop fighting.. things will trun back around... it always up and down.. but never lose faith, what one man can make another can break ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ftanewbie
i wil aggree the last 3 weeks have been very rough but as i said we will pull thru...
hello folks i am looking for a great iks not tomuch down times,what the price for iks let know
May I suggest you start by reading the site rules found here....http://www.satfix.net/showthread.php?352-RulesQuote:
Originally Posted by mely wuso
You will have to do some reading on the various servers and pm the appropriate people to get the information you are asking for.
Buy VBA ( Virtual Bank Adress ) and VCC ( Virtual credit card ) to create an anonymous paypal account! Just use vpn to connect on and prepaid credit cart! Its cost 12$ to create the paypal! I suppose is the best way to pay in the iks universe! ;)
Anybody get GREENDOT MONEYPAK in Canada???