yes they did at one time and that is a fact, in fact wuf sold the codes back in mid 2011 that you could use for DN or b3v, that is a
fact, so as I did say in my other post being north of the us border don't mean you are safe, LOL.
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yes they did at one time and that is a fact, in fact wuf sold the codes back in mid 2011 that you could use for DN or b3v, that is a
fact, so as I did say in my other post being north of the us border don't mean you are safe, LOL.
who has received a letter that ordered 2 years ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by iq180
and until at least one end user gets a letter in canada I'd say they're safe
there have been some dating back to 2011, I didn't say they would I did say they could, what's to stop DN from handing overQuote:
Originally Posted by dishuser
there info to b3v then b3v could start sending out letters, just because you are in Canada it don't mean you are safe.
IKS is not safe in any country, that is a fact.JMO.
It is a joint between dn and bev that did more or less hire nagar . But the laws for piracy are different from the usa in Canada. There is a max limit of a fine that has been put in place for piracy . There is a law firm challenging this threw piracy downloads ...which doesnt look in there favor .
So for them to try and go cross boarder with dn ... At this time ...I doubt they would or even could at this time . Doesn't mean they won't at some point . They still have to take care of what they have in the usa .
But they do go after bev piracy ..but haven't seen a take down in a long time .
mmmmmlet me see ahnokiaQuote:
Originally Posted by dishuser
he never said he was sickQuote:
Originally Posted by mangohead
You are not completely safe in Canada but there is far less likelihood of end users being pursued in Canada. Many many years ago as I understand Bev did send out demand letters to some end users in Canada but as far as I know they never actually filled any lawsuits. In that situation people who ignored paying on the demand letter did better. In that situation it amounted to a scare tactic but not aware of anything else that you could say that.
There is a clause in the Canadian law under civil action where the provider might be limited to seeking a maximum of $1,000 award. It would depend on how the court interpreted that clause if an end user would be protected. If not the provider still probably would not be awarded very much more. In Criminal cases the fines per violation as far as I know never went over $2,000 per violation for a dealer and would not see courts awarding. Both Canada and the US have laws against Sat piracy but the penalties given are or have been significantly higher in the US. I am not aware of any Canadian ever being sentenced to jail time for Sat piracy while there has been quite a few that were in the US.
In the US the provider can realize a much higher award on an end user. They are able to make more claims of violations of different laws while in Canada think they would be limited to just a claim of violation pertaining to the Canadian Radio Communication Act.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iq180
IKS is safe in any country UNLESS you are running (OVERPRICED) iksservers
and selling codes to connect to THAT server which means
they would be running subbed (dn/bev) cards and THAT is their (providers') ONLY interest
so, cross border hunting in THIS game?? 100% NIL
AND
the day DN goes hunting for iks hobbiests in the north
is the day BEV goes in parts of U.S. hunting iks hobbiest viewing
NOTSOFREE bev, THERE and THAT day, well, she never cums, period. ;)
too many fraidy cats , relax and enjoy.....
Huh? What? Are you sure? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ftaalltheway
so you think iks is safe, you need to ask the ones that got the $3,500.00 demand letters how safe it is.LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by ftaalltheway
I've been led to believe that Paypal is the source for catching end users. True or False?????
False! it is the IKS servers and resellers getting busted that will reveal you. Paypal just confirms it for themQuote:
Originally Posted by hamster
It is simple. People advertise their illegal service. D1sh in an effort to protect their property initiates the PM and purchas through PP. They get a comfirmation of purchase and account identity of reseller. D!sh goes to court and gets a subponea for all activity on this account. PP complies, as it has to by law. Now they have all records for this account. Simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by hamster
AFAIK there was only the DA server bust that resulted in letters. Reseller busts originate from PayPal as stated precisely by Alex. End users are revealed personally by PayPal, not by the reseller. The reseller may provide more evidence or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
[QUOTE=hondoharry;966083]AFAIK there was only the DA server bust that resulted in letters. Reseller busts originate from PayPal as stated precisely by Alex. End users are revealed personally by PayPal, not by the reseller. The reseller may provide more evidence or not.[/QUOTE
Wufman turned over all his business records that's why all his customers got letters PP just confirmed it.