DN $3500 demand

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Originally Posted by fifties

You're missing the point here;

he has no job, where they could garnish wages. He says he's on disability, which can't be garnished. He has no savings, so there's no bank account to seize. If he doesn't own Real Estate property, there's nothing they can put a lien on.

Assuming this is the case, he's better off simply checking with a lawyer about the best financial strategy, which might just be to let them get a default judgment against him, because at the present would be un-collectable.

Later on in his life, if he needs to clean up his credit, he can pay off the collection agency who will eventually get the judgment, for cents on the dollar.

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i agree with you just to add there is a statue of limitations on old debt that differs in all states and provinces that they cant collect on mostly its 6 years..however acknowledging old debt after and up untill the 6 year limitation reverts the six years to restart again..best thing to do is avoid all communication with creditors..if you and jj choose to go that route

Much better advice than what I gave and very well said.

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Originally Posted by fifties

You're missing the point here;

he has no job, where they could garnish wages. He says he's on disability, which can't be garnished. He has no savings, so there's no bank account to seize. If he doesn't own Real Estate property, there's nothing they can put a lien on.

Assuming this is the case, he's better off simply checking with a lawyer about the best financial strategy, which might just be to let them get a default judgment against him, because at the present would be un-collectable.

Later on in his life, if he needs to clean up his credit, he can pay off the collection agency who will eventually get the judgment, for cents on the dollar.

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Originally Posted by NoName

Much better advice than what I gave and very well said.

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It was a mediocre post....don't inflate his ego.

:hehe:

J/K of course fifites my good man.

Hi All~
I too have just received a certified mail, just last week. Bought my "donations" from wuffman, nokia and vgiddy. The letter is asking for $3500 and the promise I won't do it any more..I probably won't, as the resellers can't be trusted. Letter was addressed to me, but my wife signed for it. So guys, if you see an 8 1/2 X 11 envelope from Hagan Noll & Boyle LCC in your mailman's hand, be afraid, be very afraid. I haven't got the $3500, so don't know what I'm going to do. Have 30 days to respond, but for now, I'm going to set and wait, it's all I can do. By the way, this isn't the name I used to sign it with, I was a frequent poster on satfix, or the email address I used to use. I trust no one any more!!

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Originally Posted by Gomez

Hi All~
I too have just received a certified mail, just last week. Bought my "donations" from wuffman, nokia and vgiddy. The letter is asking for $3500 and the promise I won't do it any more..I probably won't, as the resellers can't be trusted. Letter was addressed to me, but my wife signed for it. So guys, if you see an 8 1/2 X 11 envelope from Hagan Noll & Boyle LCC in your mailman's hand, be afraid, be very afraid. I haven't got the $3500, so don't know what I'm going to do. Have 30 days to respond, but for now, I'm going to set and wait, it's all I can do. By the way, this isn't the name I used to sign it with, I was a frequent poster on satfix, or the email address I used to use. I trust no one any more!!

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Go see a Professional legal counsel and get advice, preferably someone experienced in dmca matters,Spend the couple hundred it takes to get proper advice now then to regret it later.

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Originally Posted by Gomez

Hi All~
I too have just received a certified mail, just last week. Bought my "donations" from wuffman, nokia and vgiddy. The letter is asking for $3500 and the promise I won't do it any more..I probably won't, as the resellers can't be trusted. Letter was addressed to me, but my wife signed for it. So guys, if you see an 8 1/2 X 11 envelope from Hagan Noll & Boyle LCC in your mailman's hand, be afraid, be very afraid. I haven't got the $3500, so don't know what I'm going to do. Have 30 days to respond, but for now, I'm going to set and wait, it's all I can do. By the way, this isn't the name I used to sign it with, I was a frequent poster on satfix, or the email address I used to use. I trust no one any more!!

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Did it say who specifically you bought codes from did it say Wufman AKA Thomas Dick...

That is what mine said which I got a couple of weeks ago. Transaction date was 12/2/2011 so they are going through it all.

a bit odd for your first post to the forum.

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Originally Posted by Gomez

Hi All~
I too have just received a certified mail, just last week. Bought my "donations" from wuffman, nokia and vgiddy. The letter is asking for $3500 and the promise I won't do it any more..I probably won't, as the resellers can't be trusted. Letter was addressed to me, but my wife signed for it. So guys, if you see an 8 1/2 X 11 envelope from Hagan Noll & Boyle LCC in your mailman's hand, be afraid, be very afraid. I haven't got the $3500, so don't know what I'm going to do. Have 30 days to respond, but for now, I'm going to set and wait, it's all I can do. By the way, this isn't the name I used to sign it with, I was a frequent poster on satfix, or the email address I used to use. I trust no one any more!!

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Originally Posted by NoName

a bit odd for your first post to the forum.

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Perhaps you should read my post again.

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Originally Posted by cheff

Did it say who specifically you bought codes from did it say Wufman AKA Thomas Dick...

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No name was mentioned, but the time frame of the purchases point to wufman.

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Originally Posted by notocer

That is what mine said which I got a couple of weeks ago. Transaction date was 12/2/2011 so they are going through it all.

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Yes, and they are just getting started. Anyone that did business with Wufman can expect a certified letter soon. Have read that a few other sellers have pulled up lame too, and are running for cover.

I also got a letter today from dish so i went a head and sent a payment out to piratecardblues but not sure what i am suppose to get and where to go from here..we have to much to lose to ignore it but is it worth it to fight

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Originally Posted by norm155

I also got a letter today from dish so i went a head and sent a payment out to piratecardblues but not sure what i am suppose to get and where to go from here..we have to much to lose to ignore it but is it worth it to fight

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It's a high stakes poker game, with them daring you to call their bluff.

So far, we haven't seen an outcome of an actual court battle, with them having to show their hand (which to win would have to be sufficient evidence for the bench or jury, to agree that it tilts the case just enough for them to prevail).

Unfortunately for the defendants, it will assuredly cost you more -in both $ and stress- to pay an attorney to fight them, then to pay the $3500 (which BTW is chump change when it comes to legal fees).

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Originally Posted by fifties

It's a high stakes poker game, with them daring you to call their bluff.

So far, we haven't seen an outcome of an actual court battle, with them having to show their hand (which to win would have to be sufficient evidence for the bench or jury, to agree that it tilts the case just enough for them to prevail).

Unfortunately for the defendants, it will assuredly cost you more -in both $ and stress- to pay an attorney to fight them, then to pay the $3500 (which BTW is chump change when it comes to legal fees).

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That is probably one of the best posts I've seen here....and unfortunately every bit of it is true.

They know they have you over a barrel and they know the deck is stacked in their favor. I'm just waiting for someone that has nothing to lose to call that bluff and go all in. I know there is at least one Sammy Farha on here, there has to be. ;)

Anyone know any Canadians who got letters? Starting to get worried, my uhh, friend bought from wuf over a year ago. :/