SV 360 Elite channels disappear from guide, but they are there.

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03-04-2014, 03:05 PM
Bruiser

SV 360 Elite channels disappear from guide, but they are there.

I have an SV360 Elite.
It is working on an Ihub and NFPS.

I have both tuners connected to a DP Plus, I scanned 110 on one tuner and 119 on the other. All that works and I have a lot of channels. Many work, many do not, and I understand that's just how it is. Picture is beautiful.

So the problem I have is this: I have lots of guide data, but channel blocks are just missing from the guide. They are not missing from the channel list which you get if you push guide two times.

After I bring up a missing channel group in the channel list or by entering the number manually, then it will appear in the guide, for a while. Maybe an extra 30 or 40 channels are then in the guide which were just missing before.

A big group of the 500s will be missing, but they are there when I type the number. After I bring one up I get them all, with guide data, for a while. Later, that block will disappear from the guide.

Odd, huh?

Both tuners work, that all seems to be fine.
I have no switch installed at all, just the DPP 1000. Two wired directly to the back of the SV360. There hav been statements on another site that the SV360 doesn't have enough power for DPP but as I said it does seem to work.

I have a DPP44 switch but I haven't bothered to install it. Because it all seems to work. I just don't think that is causing channel blocks to disappear from the guide.
03-04-2014, 03:29 PM
Bruiser

BTW, some channels come in immediately, some, there is a delay while the box on the screen says "scrambled", then they start working, I suspect that is a server delay, receiving a response.

Some never come in and the "scrambled" message remains.
03-04-2014, 03:30 PM
Bruiser

I did update the box and the iHub with the latest firmware as discussed on another site.
03-04-2014, 04:14 PM
TurboPirate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruiser

I did update the box and the iHub with the latest firmware as discussed on another site.

Let me try to help with what I know, first yes you need to power up that system the SV360 can't do it on it's own, Elite and Premier are known to blow a Cap just by powering up the I-Hub with 5V so trying to power up the DP1000 is more then the I-Hub, I also notice you have 1 tuner dedicated to 119 and the other tuner to 110, I will try this first, have 2 switches so in each tuner you get 119 and 110, I am sure the guide issue will be solved, second and most important, install the switch 44 you mention since you have it, some members are dieing to have one and you have one so get the benefit of the switch to your demands......about thee firmware not very clear since I haven't use a Sonicview since 2009 but as far as I remember if you have the I-Hub this one needs to be converted to LAN wish is easy with the premier and elite because both receivers upgrade the I-Hub and NewLink to LAN after installing the receiver's software, if your I-Hub is converted to LAN all should be OK.............Again the EPG issue should be solved after each tuner is connected to both 119 and 110 and the sw44 to help with the voltage. Turbo
03-04-2014, 05:28 PM
Bruiser

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboPirate

Let me try to help with what I know, first yes you need to power up that system the SV360 can't do it on it's own, Elite and Premier are known to blow a Cap just by powering up the I-Hub with 5V so trying to power up the DP1000 is more then the I-Hub, I also notice you have 1 tuner dedicated to 119 and the other tuner to 110, I will try this first, have 2 switches so in each tuner you get 119 and 110, I am sure the guide issue will be solved, second and most important, install the switch 44 you mention since you have it, some members are dieing to have one and you have one so get the benefit of the switch to your demands......about thee firmware not very clear since I haven't use a Sonicview since 2009 but as far as I remember if you have the I-Hub this one needs to be converted to LAN wish is easy with the premier and elite because both receivers upgrade the I-Hub and NewLink to LAN after installing the receiver's software, if your I-Hub is converted to LAN all should be OK.............Again the EPG issue should be solved after each tuner is connected to both 119 and 110 and the sw44 to help with the voltage. Turbo

I scanned the tuners that way, but they didn't stay dedicated, They both switch, and that seems to be all automatic. I tried the dedicated idea but I don't see that as being supported. It seems to have been programmed to be dynamic. Pretty slick, which is why I can't see that is the problem.

Naturally, my ihub is being used with the lan, all that works.
03-05-2014, 01:06 AM
Sp0iler

Unhook your dongle for now.

Load the System clean file two times:
http://www.satfix.net/attachment.php...5&d=1349012909

Load the factory file:
http://www.satfix.net/attachment.php...4&d=1349012809

Load the current file for your box:
http://www.satfix.net/attachment.php...8&d=1349011101

Redo your sat settings and scan for channels.
Reconnect the dongle and come back to tell us how it went.

Good luck,
Sp0iler
03-05-2014, 01:17 AM
TurboPirate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruiser

I scanned the tuners that way, but they didn't stay dedicated, They both switch, and that seems to be all automatic. I tried the dedicated idea but I don't see that as being supported. It seems to have been programmed to be dynamic. Pretty slick, which is why I can't see that is the problem.

Naturally, my ihub is being used with the lan, all that works.

OK I know your I-Hub is connected to LAN what I meant is the dongle named LAN, first it was the I-Hub then it came the NewLink and last was the LAN, the first and second dongle have to be converted to the last dongle it came for SonicView, I am sure the receiver is doing the Change automatically but I remember when those receiver came to the game the proper or recommended method for setup was like that, 119 y 110 connected to a diseq or Switch21 from that switch to tuner 1 and the same set up for tuner 2 that way both tuners can access both Sats......now what the colleague suggested you is a good idea to try, load the system clean file and the others the way he has suggested. Turbo
03-06-2014, 06:46 AM
Bruiser

I did that procedure, it seems to have made no difference. The stuff that worked before still works, the stuff that didn't, about the same.

For instance, in the guide I now have a number of duplicate channels. I had those before and I deleted them with channel edit.
I have channel 480 and then 562, none between there in the guide, but if I click guide twice there are a number of channels there and some appear when I select them, and then I notice that 239 and thereabouts disappear, but still work.
03-06-2014, 11:08 AM
Sp0iler

Your transponder file is a mess.
Do a factory reset in the menu and then load this file:
http://www.satfix.net/attachment.php...6&d=1391855796

That should fix your issue.
Let us know and good luck,
Sp0iler
03-06-2014, 01:03 PM
TurboPirate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sp0iler

Your transponder file is a mess.
Do a factory reset in the menu and then load this file:
http://www.satfix.net/attachment.php...6&d=1391855796

That should fix your issue.
Let us know and good luck,
Sp0iler

and if the TP list is still a mess then try blind scan......
03-06-2014, 03:55 PM
Bruiser

That's a bin file with a channel list.
Is that not a part of the es22 file which I loaded?
03-06-2014, 04:14 PM
Bruiser

Wow! The channel list straightened it all out.
That was so nonsensical before. Now, much better.
I did find a channel mis named in the loaded channel list.
I corrected it but if I knew how to correct the posted list I would, just to make things better.

You guy are the best. Holey smokes!
03-06-2014, 04:15 PM
Bruiser

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sp0iler

Your transponder file is a mess.
Do a factory reset in the menu and then load this file:
http://www.satfix.net/attachment.php...6&d=1391855796

That should fix your issue.
Let us know and good luck,
Sp0iler

That sure did fix it.
Thanks!
03-06-2014, 04:16 PM
Bruiser

Channel list

Is that channel list only for SV, or can it be used on other FTA boxes?

A friend has a couple Linkbox, I think he has the same problem I had.
03-06-2014, 04:28 PM
TurboPirate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruiser

Is that channel list only for SV, or can it be used on other FTA boxes?

A friend has a couple Linkbox, I think he has the same problem I had.

channel list have to be made to a specific receiver since all use different files, some are BIN. ROM. ABS ETC.
03-06-2014, 04:32 PM
Bruiser

Well, that sure straightened it out. Geez. I'd have done that months ago, I finally found some real experts.

On other sites a lot of guys give opinions but have no actual knowledge of how things work. They are guessing.
One guy told me to put Disec in, on a DPP installation.
I said what possible good effect could that have in a DPP installation?
03-06-2014, 11:41 PM
Sp0iler

Glad you got it worked out and are viewing as you should.
Using that files transponder list I would think about doing this:
http://www.satfix.net/showthread.php...998#post874998

I made that list a couple of months ago and there have been some minor moves since then.

Good luck and happy viewing,
Sp0iler
03-07-2014, 05:33 AM
Bruiser

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sp0iler

Glad you got it worked out and are viewing as you should.
Using that files transponder list I would think about doing this:
http://www.satfix.net/showthread.php...998#post874998

I made that list a couple of months ago and there have been some minor moves since then.

Good luck and happy viewing,
Sp0iler

Well, I have been looking at this, and there are no channels between 501-525, which are ppv channels. Not in the list. I remember those being there in the scans I did, but there were so many problems with the scan it was, frankly. awful.

Nothing in 573-822 which are mostly intl. Not sure if I can get any of those with the three sats I have on my DPP 1000 3 horn.

Hmm. Any more ideas?
03-07-2014, 11:09 AM
Sp0iler

Those are HD channels and you won't get those on your 360.
03-07-2014, 08:45 PM
Bruiser

I also noticed that channel list is all on tuner 1. I had both tuners set up and they seemed to work.
I don't currently have the PVR in use, but if I did I would like to be able to use both tuners.
I know there have been allegations that doesn't work but as I said it all seemed to work.
06-03-2014, 04:38 PM
Bruiser

Channels missing again. OOPS.

Well, hell.

I was setting up another SV360Elite for another location.
I just disconnected the original running receiver, put the other one in it's place, same satellite connections, same ihub.

After I finished updating the firmware on the box to the es22 file (it was new, bought years ago by me and never used) it all worked.

After I took it out and put my original box back, I have missing channels. Channels like 239, which I was told to leave the box on to help the guide populate. Not there, doesn't come in, nothing. Many other channels work, but I now have large swaths of missing channels.

So I loaded the channel list sp0iler uploaded, but that didn't fix anything this time. I have it all on sort by SID.

What did I break? This has been running for a few months. Pretty well, I'd say. Not nearly as perfect as the old emu, though.
06-03-2014, 04:52 PM
TurboPirate

Try the simple step everyone forgets after loading a file to the receiver Factory Reset then re do all the settings and finally load the channel list file. TurboPirate
06-03-2014, 05:08 PM
Bruiser

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboPirate

Try the simple step everyone forgets after loading a file to the receiver Factory Reset then re do all the settings and finally load the channel list file. TurboPirate

Which I totally get, but I just used the ihub to test another IRD.

I didn't expect that simple action would screw up the original one. But it sure did. I didn't load a file to this receiver. I only did that to the new one, which I only tested and have not set up yet.
06-18-2014, 01:10 AM
Bruiser

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruiser

Which I totally get, but I just used the ihub to test another IRD.

I didn't expect that simple action would screw up the original one. But it sure did. I didn't load a file to this receiver. I only did that to the new one, which I only tested and have not set up yet.

Well, things are digressing. I reset the box completely then loaded the file 04-es22-2028_NoChk_A4to20.zip.
Loaded the channel list Sp0iler provided.

I still have very few working channels. Most say no service.
I realize there might be an NFPS ECM in progress.

I checked and I am connecting properly to the server. But not much working. Maybe nothing at the moment.

I have been turning it off while tuned to 239 which has been populating the guide pretty much completely up til recently

Now I have large swaths of channels with no guide data. Large swaths with too.

This didn't happen before. I wish I could figure out what changed?

Any ideas?
06-18-2014, 08:56 PM
Bruiser

I still have little working on the sv360.

Can anyone suggest what I should look at, or is everything down?
I'm just trying to figure out if it's just me. Or not.