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I have a GTMedia V8 finder. I know it won't find the turbo 8psk signal but transponder 12443 is standard definition and the signal is 85% on the finder. I scanned channels on the meter and the channels on Lyngsat showed up. When I connect it to the Belll PVR, it doesn't find the signal. I swapped the LNB with the 91 one. I swapped ports on the SW21 switch. I even ran the 82 cable directly into the receiver. There is some trees but I was pretty sure I was pointing above them. Any ideas?
What dish or dishes and LNB/s are you using
did you run a check switch test?Quote:
Originally Posted by dcapper
Running two separate dish lnbs into a sw21 switch on a dish500 dish. My pointer sees the standard def transponder but the receiver doesn’t see any signal. I even ran the cable directly into the receiver. This receiver was working perfectly at the lake and I brought it home to hook it up there. I have pretty much swapped everything. Is the hd signal a lot weaker than the sd one? I’m wondering if I have some tree problems.
Try the following program,just enter your location then go to the multi LNB setup, this will load a map with your location, zoom in as close as you can, move the marker to the location where you have the dish mounted, this will then give you a line looking out at the satellites.Code:https://www.dishpointer.com/
Remember your looking at two satellites, if your using one dish with two LNB's on it you will have to be pointing in-between the two, so for the 82/91 satellites the dish will be pointing at 86.5 degrees, pointing directly at one or the other satellite will get poor results on the other.
Remember the signal hitting the dish crosses over to LNB it doesn't come straight to LNB
not quiteQuote:
Originally Posted by Terryl
you're forgetting skew
where I live skew is very minimal so splitting the difference will get poor result
If you can get a old Bell/dish receiver, they are better suited to finding & locking on to 91/82 sats.
Easier to setup with.
The skew seems to be dead on. It’s so weird. I have a bell sd receiver I can use but the sat meter is so cool cause nobody is yelling out the window. I’m convinced the hd signal is weaker than the hd one. I’m using 12443 for 82 and it’s getting 85 percent. I scanned channels on the meter and the channels on lyngsat matched my meter. Does that make sense?
ya I always used a 3100 for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by auggie
one time I preset skew and went outside and mounted dish
it was at 98% when I went inside to check so I sat down and watched some tv
a week later it got really windy and I lost signal
I was so happy about getting 98% first try I forgot to back out and tighten dish to mast...lol
I wouldn't rely on Lyngsat not always up to date, setup on 91 first and locked in with 75% or better then skew/rotate the dishQuote:
Originally Posted by dcapper
for 82, if you are standing behind the dish looking out over the LNB's 91 will be on the LEFT & 82 on the right sitting a little
higher than the 91 LNB, once you have both locked in, then it's a matter of tweaking the dish for Maximum signal strength
91 should be the dominate LNB, So you may need to rob a little signal from it for 82 to come in higher
aim for at least 75% signal on both or better if you can.
I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by auggie
found it out west to have to sacrifice one over the other
here it's high on both
You said you're using a pvr receiver. Are you running 2 cables from dish? Or are you trying to use a DPP seperator? If so, it won't work with legacy lnb's. You would need a DPP twin or quad lnb.
LOL....I just scuttled 4 of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by auggie
Terryl is right and you can easily verify that by using dishpointer.Quote:
Originally Posted by dishuser
the LNBs are equal distance from the center of the dish, the focal points are equal distance from the center of the dish
the satellites are 9 degrees apart inorder to get both satellites you need to point at the center of them
the skew simply puts the dish and LNBs in line with the 2 satellites, when you adjust the skew you are not changing the Azimuth you are simply rotating the dish
well I only move mine 3 degrees after locking into 91 and then skew for 82 and get both in high 90's so splitting it would make one weak in signalQuote:
Originally Posted by really_troubled
you missed the point :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dishuser
if you locked in on 91 with the correct LNB then you unwittingly pointed it exactly in the middle of the 2 satellites there is no other way to lock in on the signal
if you then moved it 3 degrees you would have completely lost all satellite signal
skewQuote:
Originally Posted by really_troubled
you are missing the point
I don't split the difference between 82 and 91
if I split it the 82 signal isn't as strong as when I only move it 3 degrees
like I said, you unwittingly aimed the dish exactly in between the 2 satellites, there is no other way lock in 91 with a dish500 dualQuote:
Originally Posted by dishuser
go to dishpointer and see what the azimuth setting is for you area for a single lnb one satellite system
then check the azimuth for a dual from you location, then maybe you will understand the difference...
Quote:
Originally Posted by dishuser
I suspect if dcapper answers the above posts we will be able to give him an answer to why he's locked in on 82 but can't get a usuable signalQuote:
Originally Posted by fn59
thanx for the laff but I've been setting up pans for over 25 yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by really_troubled
It ended up that the sat finder is more sensitive and the signal wasn't quite as strong as the receiver. We pulled off the Dish500 dish and installed a 36" dish. 82 is working perfect now. Thanks for all the help.