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03-31-2023, 05:53 PM
weezer22

Tracking iptv

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Canada is Tracking IPTV User’s IP Addresses
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The war on IPTV services is continuing to heat up. These illegal services that sell access to live TV for a fraction of the cost of legal services have become a big target for media companies.

So what are IPTV services? In short, an IPTV service is an illegal live TV streaming service promising to give you all the big networks like ESPN but for a fraction of the cost of legal services.

Now we have learned that in Canada, users of IPTV services are having their IP address that can identify them logged. This comes as the NHL won a court order to block some pirate IPTV services. Not only did the internet service block the services, but they also logged and turned over the IP address of anyone who tried to access these services, according to TorrentFreak.

Canada is not alone in cracking down on IPTV services. In the US, a new law passed back in 2020 that made running an IPTV service a more serious criminal matter. Since 2020, multiple IPTV services have been targeted for legal action, both civil and criminal.

This is a massive shift from what used to be a hands-off approach by police. One of the first bit ones was when FBI went after the streaming service iStreamitAll. Later they went after the Gears Reloaded service was raided and shut down. Piracy is now being viewed as a criminal issue.

Recently both the Nitro IPTV service and USTV GO have both been shut down and in the case of Nitro, the owners are facing a $100 million judgment against them.

As cord cutting has put pressure on cable TV companies and content owners, they have invested heavily in efforts to stop even small piracy services. What was once a side project for many companies is now a major focus. Look for 2023 to be a year full of crackdowns on all kinds of illegal streaming services, including IPTV services.

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03-31-2023, 06:07 PM
dishuser

who cares?I don't live in the USA so let them go chase it...lol
03-31-2023, 06:22 PM
weezer22

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Originally Posted by dishuser

who cares?I don't live in the USA so let them go chase it...lol

Just a c/p but it was for the Canadian users
03-31-2023, 08:30 PM
dishuser

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Originally Posted by weezer22

Just a c/p but it was for the Canadian users

and I'm a canadian
03-31-2023, 09:02 PM
weezer22

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Originally Posted by dishuser

and I'm a canadian

Wow would of never guessed that...
03-31-2023, 09:10 PM
runamok

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Originally Posted by dishuser

and I'm a canadian

And I love the Leaf's
03-31-2023, 09:20 PM
dishuser

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Originally Posted by weezer22

Wow would of never guessed that...

today I'm in Boston
tomorrow I'll be in Chicago or New York City...lol
03-31-2023, 09:20 PM
dishuser

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Originally Posted by runamok

And I love the Leaf's

I never figured you for a guy who likes golf
03-31-2023, 09:33 PM
weezer22

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Originally Posted by dishuser

today I'm in Boston
tomorrow I'll be in Chicago or New York City...lol

I'm in the Netherlands �� tomorrow �� then maybe Germany �� Sunday will see
03-31-2023, 09:33 PM
runamok

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Originally Posted by dishuser

I never figured you for a guy who likes golf

But I do like golf Leafs are doing good sofar.Don't forget to stop in N.C. for the canes
03-31-2023, 10:09 PM
dishuser

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Originally Posted by runamok

But I do like golf Leafs are doing good sofar.Don't forget to stop in N.C. for the canes

out first round
golf leafs golf
03-31-2023, 10:09 PM
maird57

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Originally Posted by runamok

And I love the Leaf's

Who are the Leaf's???
03-31-2023, 10:16 PM
dishuser

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Originally Posted by maird57

Who are the Leaf's???

they're that team that let's you know spring is here when they get eliminated :thumbsup:
03-31-2023, 10:52 PM
The Noof

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Originally Posted by runamok

And I love the Leaf's

Nobody's perfect...lol.
04-01-2023, 12:40 AM
Ryu

and im in Africa oh Africa is big :)
I could go to Russia or South America :)
09-10-2023, 07:26 PM
Gunsmoke2 - GS2

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Piracy is now being viewed as a criminal issue.

Recently both the Nitro IPTV service and USTV GO have both been shut down and in the case of Nitro, the owners are facing a $100 million judgment against them.

So it states it's now viewed as a criminal issue and backs that up with giving two recent examples of civil cases.

There are criminal violations in Canada for piracy but rarely have been used and the penalties handed out have been quite weak.

Given the choice, if you don't care about having a criminal record being charge criminally in Canada might be a better option than a 100 million dollar judgment.

Though criminal penalties can change if a judge decides to by pass previous case law and make a more meaningful deterrent.

GS2
11-27-2023, 02:02 AM
really_troubled

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Originally Posted by weezer22

This is a massive shift from what used to be a hands-off approach by police. One of the first bit ones was when FBI went after the streaming service iStreamitAll. Later they went after the Gears Reloaded service was raided and shut down. Piracy is now being viewed as a criminal issue.

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Originally Posted by Gunsmoke2 - GS2

So it states it's now viewed as a criminal issue and backs that up with giving two recent examples of civil cases.

There are criminal violations in Canada for piracy but rarely have been used and the penalties handed out have been quite weak.

Given the choice, if you don't care about having a criminal record being charge criminally in Canada might be a better option than a 100 million dollar judgment.

Though criminal penalties can change if a judge decides to by pass previous case law and make a more meaningful deterrent.

GS2

Man, did you ever butcher that article.

If you read the entire paragraph, that you cut the conclusion from, you would see that 2 examples were given that were criminal.

As for you advice that it might be better in Canada to be charged criminally, you might want to rethink that advice. A criminal conviction would all but guarantee a subsequent civil suit. There is nothing to prevent them from pursuing you with a civil action after your crimal conviction and it can be used against you.
11-27-2023, 02:58 AM
dishuser

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Originally Posted by really_troubled

Man, did you ever butcher that article.

If you read the entire paragraph, that you cut the conclusion from, you would see that 2 examples were given that were criminal.

As for you advice that it might be better in Canada to be charged criminally, you might want to rethink that advice. A criminal conviction would all but guarantee a subsequent civil suit. There is nothing to prevent them from pursuing you with a civil action after your crimal conviction and it can be used against you.

you do know he went thru all this during the grey marketing days right?
11-27-2023, 03:07 AM
really_troubled

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Originally Posted by dishuser

you do know he went thru all this during the grey marketing days right?

what does that have to do with what I posted ?

are you saying that a person can't be pursued in a civil suit after they are found guilty of criminal charges ?

or are you saying that he didn't butcher the article ?
11-27-2023, 03:29 AM
dishuser

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Originally Posted by really_troubled

what does that have to do with what I posted ?

are you saying that a person can't be pursued in a civil suit after they are found guilty of criminal charges ?

or are you saying that he didn't butcher the article ?

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Though criminal penalties can change if a judge decides to by pass previous case law and make a more meaningful deterrent.

I thought he was quite clear on that
11-27-2023, 03:54 AM
really_troubled

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Originally Posted by dishuser

I thought he was quite clear on that

he said "criminal penalties can change" that has nothing to do with being pursued civilly for your criminal actions
11-27-2023, 04:02 AM
dishuser

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Originally Posted by really_troubled

he said "criminal penalties can change" that has nothing to do with being pursued civilly for your criminal actions

that can change means civilly to me
I know all about his case and don't make assumptions
I myself went thru this crap almost 20 years ago with dan caban
do you know how many sinkers you can make out of one 3.5" hard drive?
I do
and so does lake erie...lol
11-27-2023, 04:08 AM
really_troubled

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Originally Posted by dishuser

that can change means civilly to me
I know all about his case and don't make assumptions
I myself went thru this crap almost 20 years ago with dan caban
do you know how many sinkers you can make out of one 3.5" hard drive?
I do
and so does lake erie...lol

then you should know, that if you are found guilty of a criminal offense, it can be used against you and will all but guarantee a civil judgement against you, if the offended party pursues it.
11-27-2023, 05:09 PM
dishuser

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Originally Posted by really_troubled

then you should know, that if you are found guilty of a criminal offense, it can be used against you and will all but guarantee a civil judgement against you, if the offended party pursues it.

and gs2 basically said that in his post
11-27-2023, 06:14 PM
really_troubled

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Originally Posted by Gunsmoke2 - GS2

So it states it's now viewed as a criminal issue and backs that up with giving two recent examples of civil cases.

There are criminal violations in Canada for piracy but rarely have been used and the penalties handed out have been quite weak.

Given the choice, if you don't care about having a criminal record being charge criminally in Canada might be a better option than a 100 million dollar judgment.

Though criminal penalties can change if a judge decides to by pass previous case law and make a more meaningful deterrent.

GS2

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Originally Posted by dishuser

and gs2 basically said that in his post

Show me where he basically said that.

He is clearly saying that it might be in your interest to be charged criminally in an attempt to get out of a 100 million judgement. A judgement that would only be awarded in a civil suit ... but like I said, that criminal conviction would all but guarantee a subsequent civil suit.
11-27-2023, 06:29 PM
dishuser

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Though criminal penalties can change if a judge decides to by pass previous case law and make a more meaningful deterrent.

and you don't need to found guilty criminally to lose in civil
just ask OJ
11-27-2023, 06:35 PM
really_troubled

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Originally Posted by dishuser

and you don't need to found guilty criminally to lose in civil
just ask OJ

that's my point, why would take the chance of being found guilty by both courts
11-27-2023, 06:37 PM
runamok

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Originally Posted by dishuser

and you don't need to found guilty criminally to lose in civil
just ask OJ

You got that right and that shouldn't be right. OJ got shafted
12-06-2023, 02:22 AM
MarvinGardens

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Originally Posted by runamok

You got that right and that shouldn't be right. OJ got shafted

No he did not.

The difference is that to be found guilty in criminal court the standard of proof is "beyond a reasonable doubt". Being the highest standard of proof to be met.

In civil court the standard of proof is "by a preponderance of evidence". The lowest standard of proof. The plaintiff only has to prove that it is more likely than not that they were damaged by the defense.
12-07-2023, 10:12 PM
larnaca54

In Canada they only go after the distributors and not the users, just like satellite days.