Coworker left a couple shop rags in the engine valley when doing intake gaskets.

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03-13-2019, 12:40 AM
Justdroppedin

Coworker left a couple shop rags in the engine valley when doing intake gaskets.

Now he gets to replace the engine......

https://i.redd.it/99g4qce4rpl21.jpg
03-13-2019, 01:26 AM
The Noof

Bye-bye 3800 Buick.I'm guessing the rag(s)got between the cam &lifters & caused valve interference?Maybe choked the oil pump screen if it ran long enough.
03-13-2019, 01:57 AM
sonicmario

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Originally Posted by The Noof

Bye-bye 3800 Buick.I'm guessing the rag(s)got between the cam &lifters & caused valve interference?Maybe choked the oil pump screen if it ran long enough.

those motors are bullet proof, my friend had one with like 600 000 km, still ran like a top.... he had the supercharged 3800 and the body gave up way before the drive-train..
03-13-2019, 11:33 AM
Dodgem

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Originally Posted by The Noof

Bye-bye 3800 Buick.I'm guessing the rag(s)got between the cam &lifters & caused valve interference?Maybe choked the oil pump screen if it ran long enough.

I never had one of these apart but it looks like that might be a balance shaft of some sort and the cam is a little lower.
03-13-2019, 12:02 PM
The Noof

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Originally Posted by Dodgem

I never had one of these apart but it looks like that might be a balance shaft of some sort and the cam is a little lower.

That is the configuration...cam right under.Could have grenaded the timing chain as well.Balance shaft driven from a small gear on the camshaft, which is chain driven.Many things can happen due to a moments stupidity .lol.
Looks like he used a die-grinder & abrasive wheel to clean the mating surfaces:that's a BIG no-no in my shop.
03-15-2019, 05:42 AM
chad1976

All the talking say its not going to be worth fixing!:comfort1:
03-15-2019, 01:47 PM
1boxman

Goes to show you ..that not even an engine can get rid of a rag :tape: or maybe it is on one
03-15-2019, 02:39 PM
Dodgem

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Originally Posted by The Noof

That is the configuration...cam right under.Could have grenaded the timing chain as well.Balance shaft driven from a small gear on the camshaft, which is chain driven.Many things can happen due to a moments stupidity .lol.
Looks like he used a die-grinder & abrasive wheel to clean the mating surfaces:that's a BIG no-no in my shop.

Looks like they used out door house caulking/silicone also.As for using a die grinder i have always used a fine abrasive pad.Just not on aluminum.Never had one come back with a leak.Actually i used a extra fine abrasive pad on the last hemi i did cam and lifters in. It was a mess and hard to clean.That was around Xmas and no leaks.It's been back for 2 services since.First time i ever used them on aluminum.
03-15-2019, 03:30 PM
The Noof

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Originally Posted by Dodgem

Looks like they used out door house caulking/silicone also.As for using a die grinder i have always used a fine abrasive pad.Just not on aluminum.Never had one come back with a leak.Actually i used a extra fine abrasive pad on the last hemi i did cam and lifters in. It was a mess and hard to clean.That was around Xmas and no leaks.It's been back for 2 services since.First time i ever used them on aluminum.

80 grit on a hard sanding block, straight-line motion for me.
03-16-2019, 02:07 AM
dishuser

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Originally Posted by Dodgem

Looks like they used out door house caulking/silicone also.As for using a die grinder i have always used a fine abrasive pad.Just not on aluminum.Never had one come back with a leak.Actually i used a extra fine abrasive pad on the last hemi i did cam and lifters in. It was a mess and hard to clean.That was around Xmas and no leaks.It's been back for 2 services since.First time i ever used them on aluminum.

my guess is they used the sealant because they didn't take manifold off in sequence and canoed it
get a nice whistling...lol