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    Default Winter Project..

    Bathroom in the basement.

    Where I live winter is long,I decided to start a project in the basement..

    I'm not in a rush, but I would like to finish by next spring...

    I finished my basement 15 years ago,but I left this room, where I planned to build a bathroom.

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    I made a visit to Rona and bought the bath,toilet end sink....(1000$).

    For today I planned to install in ceiling fan,and break the wall of the house to take out the exhaust pipe.(150$)

    I'm not an expert but I'm doing pretty well in electricity, pipes, wood, etc.

    If you have tips or ideas are welcome...especially since I have never done a project this big.

    For next week I rent electric demolition hammer to break up the floor to install new drain end conect to the main pipe.


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    Great idea Henric, but one word of caution, on the toilet and bath drains, you must be sure that the main sewage drain from the house is low enough to connect the toilet into it, and in some areas a back flow preventer may be needed if the main sewer line is closer then 16" to the lowest toilet connection.

    This is to prevent the sewage from the main line from coming back up and into your basement if there was a problem on the main line.

    The same may hold true if your on a septic system.

    I would check with a local plumber as to what may be required.

    And if your new toilet and shower/bath is lower then the main drain from your house to the street, then you may need a secondary tank and pump, this if needed should be installed by someone who has done one before as they can get tricky.
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    Thank you Terryl.

    You are absolutely right,the drain pipe of the house should be 4ft under house foundations (by house plans),end the main street of city is much lower than the level of the home.
    Anyway I will install a safety valve (Backwater Valve) for the main,end a automatic air vent.

    I should be ok,I checked with several plumber company but the price is too high (2000$-2800$),so I decided to do it myself...(As the two valves are expensive 250$,remaining pipe material 150$,
    rent electric hammer 150$,and concrete 40$).

    I found a company that will come only for inspection for 150$,before I plug it with concrete...

    Thank you,and if you have ideas are welcome ...

    Keep you updated with pictures, step by step ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by henric View Post
    Thank you Terryl.

    You are absolutely right,the drain pipe of the house should be 4ft under house foundations (by house plans),end the main street of city is much lower than the level of the home.
    Anyway I will install a safety valve (Backwater Valve) for the main,end a automatic air vent.

    I should be ok,I checked with several plumber company but the price is too high (2000$-2800$),so I decided to do it myself...(As the two valves are expensive 250$,remaining pipe material 150$,
    rent electric hammer 150$,and concrete 40$).

    I found a company that will come only for inspection for 150$,before I plug it with concrete...

    Thank you,and if you have ideas are welcome ...

    Keep you updated with pictures, step by step ...
    Thats the best idea , get a plumber and electrician to detail out what and how you should do it, then let them check and sign off on the work after you completed it. Best to be safe and make sure everything is up to code.. It wont be that bad, its much worse when you have to demolish existing and redo.. Been there and lost a lot of hair doing it..LOL
    Make sure you use the sheetrock thats designed for bathrooms.. Are you going to tile the floors and walls, then its best to use the concrete sheets..

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    Henric that's a big sink compared to the toilet

    Quote Originally Posted by henric View Post
    Bathroom in the basement.

    Where I live winter is long,I decided to start a project in the basement..

    I'm not in a rush, but I would like to finish by next spring...

    I finished my basement 15 years ago,but I left this room, where I planned to build a bathroom.

    IMG_0031.jpg

    IMG_0030.jpg

    I made a visit to Rona and bought the bath,toilet end sink....(1000$).

    For today I planned to install in ceiling fan,and break the wall of the house to take out the exhaust pipe.(150$)

    I'm not an expert but I'm doing pretty well in electricity, pipes, wood, etc.

    If you have tips or ideas are welcome...especially since I have never done a project this big.

    For next week I rent electric demolition hammer to break up the floor to install new drain end conect to the main pipe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mclovin View Post
    Henric that's a big sink compared to the toilet
    Geez mac thats not the sink, its the bidet..LOL

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    Nice work so far!

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    To destroy was easy and went pretty fast,the electric demolition hammer is a great tool...

    I needed four or five hours to break the foundation and to make all the connections to the main pipe,was more difficult to carry the concrete debris outside.

    Inspection made by the plumber company was ok,and I could finish the concrete foundation.(I used 12 bags to fill the hole)

    I am lucky because the trailer at Rona is free the first two hours (if you buy substantially),and have enough time to get my material in my garage.

    The next step is to make the box for the bath,and to fix permanently,to install the faucet and make the connections to the water.

    Next week I planned to starting to build the second floor,I do not want to stay directly on concrete,I use 2/4 lying on floor and fastened with concrete nails,and I will cover with 3/4 plywood.

    Between floors I am planning to install the drain of dehumidifier,end the drain of hot water tank directly into the drain that I have already in the foundation.

    This way I hide the two hoses, and the floor will not be so cold..

    Yes JCO I will tile the floor (directly on plywood) and walls.


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    The box for the bath-tub is ready and fixed,the faucet is installed and connected to the water.( I have measured several times for holes to the bath-tub to be sure and not be wrong,the holes once made are difficult to correct..)

    I will close with plywood the box,front panel will be removable if necessary for accesse.

    Next step is the second floor,plywood covers well and is easy to install.


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    Looking great henric


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    I could not do much this week,but I managed to finish the floor and start with the walls.

    For next week, I want to finish the walls,and to think of an alternative for ceiling.

    I know that sheetrock is recommended for bathroom,but it is difficult to install as a ceiling when I work alone...

    It's going to be a dropped t- bar ceiling with panels.

    I look for that suspended ceiling,is easy to install and I will have access when needed.The ceiling tiles are moisture resistent.

    The fan is slightly bigger than I need and is wired to the light switch so it comes on everytime I go in there.

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    If you haven't laid the floor tile yet, look into in-floor heating kits. Home improvement stores sell electric floor heat kits that are fairly reasonably priced, I think it's a nice feature, especially in a basement. A towel warmer would be a nice touch, especially with the soaker tub.

    I personally don't like the idea of having the fan and light on the same switch, the fan ideally should be on a timer so that it runs long enough to properly remove the moisture from the room. If you shut the fan off too soon it won't be able to remove all of the moisture.

    Your ceiling idea is definitely the right way to go, it looks like there's some plumbing and mechanical up there that may need to be accessible in the future. Suspended ceilings in basements are always a good idea, and the nicer tiles don't look bad at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henric View Post
    I could not do much this week,but I managed to finish the floor and start with the walls.

    For next week, I want to finish the walls,and to think of an alternative for ceiling.

    I know that sheetrock is recommended for bathroom,but it is difficult to install as a ceiling when I work alone...

    It's going to be a dropped t- bar ceiling with panels.

    I look for that suspended ceiling,is easy to install and I will have access when needed.The ceiling tiles are moisture resistent.

    The fan is slightly bigger than I need and is wired to the light switch so it comes on everytime I go in there.

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    Make a support for the sheetrock to hold it in place while you screw it in.. Dropped ceiling in a bathroom is not a good idea because of the humidity..Worse case is a case a beer for some buddies to come in and hold the sheets while you screw them in.. Dont feed them the beers till after the job is done..LOL

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    You can also rent a drywall lift to do the job yourself, United Rentals has them... I think the big-box stores with tool rental centers would have them as well. I bet it's cheaper than a two-four...

    Worse case is a case a beer for some buddies to come in and hold the sheets while you screw them in..
    If you still choose to go down the T-bar drop ceiling route, you must use vinyl or some other kind of non-metallic T-bar...The metal stuff WILL rust. There are also tiles specifically designed for kitchens and bathrooms, though I suspect doing a T-bar ceiling properly will exceed the cost of sheetrock. It just comes down to, is there stuff up there that really needs to remain accessible.
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