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    I would think that bell will do the same thing that DN done in the D.A. case, in other words,
    Hold on boys she is going to be a bumpy ride up north,JMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iq180 View Post
    I would think that bell will do the same thing that DN done in the D.A. case, in other words,
    Hold on boys she is going to be a bumpy ride up north,JMO.
    I thought they only went after those that helped with cams?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishuser View Post
    I thought they only went after those that helped with cams?
    I think they did go after end users in the D.A. case.
    Think about it why wouldn't they go after end users, they have the server so they have the server logs, the IPs of the end users,
    what ports & user passwords.
    If they send out demand letters for $1000,00 dollars and the end user don't pay, they take them to court & get $1000,00 dollars
    plus what is cost them to take them to court, it's a win=win for bell/nagra.
    What I can't understand is why anyone would buy a PS code for a server that's in there own country, its got bad idea all over it,JMO,LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iq180 View Post
    I think they did go after end users in the D.A. case.
    Think about it why wouldn't they go after end users, they have the server so they have the server logs, the IPs of the end users,
    what ports & user passwords.
    If they send out demand letters for $1000,00 dollars and the end user don't pay, they take them to court & get $1000,00 dollars
    plus what is cost them to take them to court, it's a win=win for bell/nagra.
    What I can't understand is why anyone would buy a PS code for a server that's in there own country, its got bad idea all over it,JMO,LOL.
    there is no evidence they went after end users
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    Quote Originally Posted by torpainter View Post
    there is no evidence they went after end users
    know more then a few folks that decided to play with those boys even with the really bad forms of payment. not a single one ever got a letter or heard a thing after the server was busted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfinisfun View Post
    I'm not sure how relevant those letters are now, I'm guessing not very, considering many things have changed in 7 years.

    Also, you have to consider who they were sent to and under what circumstances - ie:Running a server, re-seller, end user and/or on Canadian soil and so on.

    Either way, its all speculation at this point on how they will proceed, or if they will try to do more in this case.

    They are not very relevant other than they would be alleging a similar infraction of the the Canadian Radio Communication as did seven years ago.


    I just posted them because don't think too many people had seen them and as a reference as to what happened in the past.


    People will still say they went after end users or demand letters were never sent. As far as I am concerned demand letters were sent out once seven years ago and no actual lawsuits were ever filled. To say they will is guessing so myself won't say that but will say it can be done so best not leave a paper trail to yourself even in Canada.




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    Not sure if it's relevant but it's a good read anyway.

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    http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2014/02/20/court-rules-isps-to-release-names-addresses-of-subscribers-linked-to-illegal-downloading/

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    http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2014/02/21/canadian-court-decision-on-illegal-downloading-protects-against-copyright-trolls-but-not-against-breaking-the-law/

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    My name ain't on it.. It goes in the garbage.
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    Beaver pissed of the wrong person or people and he get it up the ass at the end. Everyone is looking to make a buck and if u screw someone over the wrong way then in this business watch ur back

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    I still remember the webpage someone made of the beav and they put up his pic where he lives and the rest was history. Law enforcement should just sit back and let these guys rat each other out because everyone is greedy for more money

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    you really need to get your facts straight regarding timeline of events but yep they are all playing a game and I ma pretty sure that DN has the name of the guy who ratted Beav out and they will just pick him up at the airport next time he visits family in US

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    reading on other forums that beav was ddosing other servers and websites and people got pissed off and look what happened

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvp99ca View Post
    reading on other forums that beav was ddosing other servers and websites and people got pissed off and look what happened
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    LMAO say dish and bev do have the servers with all the logs and there are say 10 000 ips they have a record of. Do u really think they can get anywhere with that case? The whole voltran case with teksavvy took 4 or 5 years and the courts finally gave up the names of the ips but other then that nothing else has happened. The Canadian judge said voltran couldnt issue any letters demanding money. I believe there are too many end users to go after its not a small amount because beav had alot of end users. Same thing with nfps god knows how many users they have if they ever get shut down then what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvp99ca View Post
    LMAO say dish and bev do have the servers with all the logs and there are say 10 000 ips they have a record of. Do u really think they can get anywhere with that case? The whole voltran case with teksavvy took 4 or 5 years and the courts finally gave up the names of the ips but other then that nothing else has happened. The Canadian judge said voltran couldnt issue any letters demanding money. I believe there are too many end users to go after its not a small amount because beav had alot of end users. Same thing with nfps god knows how many users they have if they ever get shut down then what?
    if dish did have access to the server they don't have too go after everyone just the heavy users and they could see who they are by looking at the server info. so they could break it down by going after the clients who paid for 1yr of service and leave everyone eles alone. this is just an example of what they could do.

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