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    I received received an email about a Nagrastar settlement. The name on top as correct, but the physical address was an old work address so nothing was received by CMRRR. Also, the "evidence" listed only 1 item and the date and transaction ID don't matchup with anything. If I go back 4 yeasr I can find a match for the amount which "could" be related. The date on the listed evidence is over 3 years old.

    I've read through pages and pages of info but not sure how to proceed consider the info isn't correct.

    Should I contact them to see if they have more evidence? Should I wait since the evidence is possibly not correct?

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    Well there is no right answer other than to speak to a lawyer. My layman opinion since you receive the letter by email and not by registered mail I would not reply to it nor contact them. If you contact them the first question they could ask would be for the current address. Also if you call block out you phone number as if they get it than they can reverse it.


    You should check in your state if email is an acceptable valid notice. Most likely it is not but if you reply to the email you would be than be putting yourself in a position of confirming you receive it and read it which might than apply as being valid.


    I don't normally advise ignoring notices but for notices by email I would ignore it but I am not a lawyer.




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    There really is no way for a sender to be 100 percent sure that a recipient has received an email.

    I suspect that the email you received is an offer by DN to settle a controversy before they take you to court. If that's what the email is all about it is simply an informal curtesy communication. DN is under no obligation to keep that settlement offer open. So if they decide to track down your whereabouts and formally serve you the amount to settle will go up.

    If you decide to respond you should let an attorney respond on your behalf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvinGardens View Post
    There really is no way for a sender to be 100 percent sure that a recipient has received an email.

    I suspect that the email you received is an offer by DN to settle a controversy before they take you to court. If that's what the email is all about it is simply an informal curtesy communication. DN is under no obligation to keep that settlement offer open. So if they decide to track down your whereabouts and formally serve you the amount to settle will go up.

    If you decide to respond you should let an attorney respond on your behalf.
    I thought it was a 3 year time limit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishuser View Post
    I thought it was a 3 year time limit?
    Different statute of limitations in different states, need to look it up on a per state basis. If he responds, that's considered a communication and the time limit will start all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishuser View Post
    I thought it was a 3 year time limit?
    The time limit begins to run when DN discovers evidence leading to the identity the IKS subscriber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c8rbk1ng View Post
    Different statute of limitations in different states, need to look it up on a per state basis. If he responds, that's considered a communication and the time limit will start all over.
    Incorrect. The DMCA is federal law and cases will be litigated in federal court. State law does not apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvinGardens View Post
    Incorrect. The DMCA is federal law and cases will be litigated in federal court. State law does not apply.
    Maybe your perception but I actually went through this and was not in Federal Court but State Court...maybe that's why I won
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    Quote Originally Posted by c8rbk1ng View Post
    Maybe your conception but I actually went through this and was not in Federal Court but State Court...maybe that's why I won
    LOL. It's not my conception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvinGardens View Post
    LOL. It's not my conception.
    Glad you "got" the intended joke

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    I have some new information on the demand letters. Seems like once a reseller is busted and has his records seized then basically anyone who bought from him will also receive letters..
    The thing is that i have see with my own eyes a person who received the same satscams email showing the correct transactions..but the transactions had nothing to do with rocket or nfps (this person never purchased iks from the reseller) but with iptv from ipguys.... and the email only mentions nfps and rocket iks.....so basically many times they must be fishing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechanicman View Post
    I have some new information on the demand letters. Seems like once a reseller is busted and has his records seized then basically anyone who bought from him will also receive letters..
    The thing is that i have see with my own eyes a person who received the same satscams email showing the correct transactions..but the transactions had nothing to do with rocket or nfps (this person never purchased iks from the reseller) but with iptv from ipguys.... and the email only mentions nfps and rocket iks.....so basically many times they must be fishing...



    I don't think that is new information. In fact that concept first stated with Dave quite some time ago around 2002. They received end user information from either law enforcement busts of dealers or from Civil lawsuits of dealers. They sent out about 10,000 end user demand letters and than filled lawsuit against ones who did not settle.


    However back than some end users won their cases while most lost. in those lawsuits it was about devices you bought. Some were able to argue that the devices bought had some legal uses plus a Court ruled that Dave has no civil right of action against those who simply possess pirate devices in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 2512. That only applied to 18 U.S.C. § 2512 not allegations of other violations pertaining to other laws like the DMCA. I don't think they allege infractions of 18 U.S.C. § 2512 anymore.


    With obtaining codes for IKS you really don't have any legal argument of obtaining them for some legal use.



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    I have a fishing trip lined up for next month but won't be going because the fish have learned not to bite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benney View Post
    I have a fishing trip lined up for next month but won't be going because the fish have learned not to bite.
    Remember the OP is "notaniksuser" lol

    Perhaps you're using the wrong bait? Have you tried rats? They seem to work sometimes, however it's more than a fish can get in it's mouth.
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    Any update on your situation?

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