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    Hello everyone been a member for years but I don't think I have ever posted anything, until now. I think I need some help, I pulled out my old Sonicview HD8000 to see if there was anything that I could do with it but I seem to be having trouble picking up the satellites. I have an excellent signal but Q is 0 on all transponders. I have an old 8PSK board from a DN 6000U which worked fine in the past, are those still the correct 8PSK modules? The ones I see on Ebay are considerably different than the one I have. I have a DP+ 3 LNB dish and I used the most recent channel list I could find and S is 90+ but I can't seem to get Q to move from 0.

    If anyone can give me some insight I would greatly appreciate the help.

    I'll also try to keep the dumb questions to a minimum.

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    You need to install a turbo 8psk module & edit the transponder list.the 8psk from the ird won't work for you.

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    I thought that might be the case. I will try to order one. Thanks for your help.

    Are there any QPSK transponders I can try to make sure everything else is working before I spend the money on the new board.

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    There is a reliable vendor on ebay of sv parts & services.I believe his user name there is danmarco.You can try to see if you can get channel 9421 (velocity).From here I'm not sure of the modulation, but it is a free channel.Search this site or go to lyngsat for modulation info.

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    Ok I said I would keep the dumb questions to a minimum and I hope this is my only one.
    Is there a difference between these modules. I have found 2 of them one is a red board 8psk mpeg-4 module seller says it contains 2018 updates and then there is a green one that says A-1 rev1.1 BIN #B0. Would either of these be the correct one?

    EDIT : The seller you mentioned is the one with the red board so I will grab one of them. Thank you for all your help.

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    red board ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by demigawd View Post
    I thought that might be the case. I will try to order one. Thanks for your help.

    Are there any QPSK transponders I can try to make sure everything else is working before I spend the money on the new board.
    Last 6 or so on 110 or first 5 on 119 and you should be able to find something still QPSK with in some of the spotbeams. Listing on site here post #15 toward the bottom of the post:
    https://www.satfix.to/showthread.php...-Changes-Lists and or on jameslong/lyngsat. If you are still needing one. If you have used a resent list then the conus tp's should be up to date. Symbol rates changed around 2015.
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    Well I have an update. I ordered the new board and got it installed, unfortunately I still can not get anything to work. When I go to dish settings I can see there is plenty of signal ( S is around 90) but Q stays at 0. I have turned on the external module and gone through the TP list and set them as listed but still nothing.

    Could I have a firmware problem? Is there a recommended file to use?

    Again thanks for any help you can offer.

    EDIT : It also seems that no matter what diseq setting I use the signal doesn't seem to change. Could the problem be my dish. This dish came with the house so I am not sure exactly what it is other than a DPP 1000; are those compatible with the 8000HD?
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    Guess it is possible your dish in out of alignment. Could go to
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    and check your elevation and skew etc. Just put in your address and your dish type. I will say this from recent experience you may need to add close to three degrees to the elevation and skew to get good strong Q&S. The more info you can provide in regard to your dish the better the help.

    Files are important in the end but most will work the same with Q&S and scanning for the most part. Have seen some older files show a certain epg that newer ones won't but as it stands now with that particular bird it's worthless. All that being said you will need a certain file in the end network and version wise so you may as well have the correct one loaded from jump. There is a nochk file posted that works with either iHub/wiz110sr/4.12.

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    Those DPP 1000 are a real pain to setup, have built in switches,etc.
    A Dish 500 with legacy LNB'S is alot easier to setup.

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    Actually the OP could have kept the original DN 8PSK board as it it Turbo 8PSK. But that board is a power hog so the new red board is much better anyway.

    The reason you get no Quality is that all the transponders (TP's) are no longer DVB, they all have to be changed to Turbo 8PSK.

    old = DVB, SR 20000, FEC 7/8

    new = Turbo 8PSK, SR 21500, FEC 2/3

    Change all your TP's or just a few and see if you get quality. Make sure your switch and LNB are set to what you have now.

    Might be a channel list in the file section with updated TP's use it and then set up LNB and switch and you should be good to go.

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    s at 90 means it's reading lnb
    q at 90 is what you want

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    "EDIT : It also seems that no matter what diseq setting I use the signal doesn't seem to change. Could the problem be my dish. This dish came with the house so I am not sure exactly what it is other than a DPP 1000; are those compatible with the 8000HD?"

    A dishpro is set like this

    LNB type = OSC-DP
    LNB frequency = 11250
    Sat 119 = diseqc 1
    Sat 110 = diseqc 2
    Sat 129 = diseqc 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by jets View Post
    "EDIT : It also seems that no matter what diseq setting I use the signal doesn't seem to change. Could the problem be my dish. This dish came with the house so I am not sure exactly what it is other than a DPP 1000; are those compatible with the 8000HD?"

    A dishpro is set like this

    LNB type = OSC-DP
    LNB frequency = 11250
    Sat 119 = diseqc 1
    Sat 110 = diseqc 2
    Sat 129 = diseqc 3
    I think This might be my problem. I have the wrong type of LNB selected. I have never used one of these 1000 dishes before, my old house I had put up a motorized dish with a universal LNB.

    I will try changing the dish settings to these and cross my fingers.

    Thanks everyone
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    Something else you may want to run your cabling down and see if there is external switch in line. If there is that could be causing a problem. Guess it is possible there's a 44 or 34 in the mix. Just a thought.

    1000.2 manual that maybe of help and or just in case. Angle tables starting on pg.10:
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    https://manuals.solidsignal.com/151255_01_text.pdf
    Just keep in mind some of the info in the manual may not work the same or as well with an stb. Some could possibly cause damage to an stb as well
    Last edited by vapor; 07-07-2018 at 09:26 AM. Reason: added info

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