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    Oscar De La Hoya issues open letter to fight fans


    Dear Fight Fans,

    On the night of Saturday, September 15, fans were set to be treated to what sports should be all about: the two best athletes in a sport squaring off against each other with the winner earning the title of the best in the business. This kind of an event - where an individual can be called the best in any sport -- is truly rare.

    Not only did the fight itself deliver all that was promised, against all kinds of pressure, Canelo Alvarez gave the performance of his lifetime to secure the unified middleweight championship of the world.

    Unfairly criticized for not fighting “Mexican” enough in the first fight, he kept Gennady Golovkin on his heels all night, taking the action to the “boogeyman of boxing,” walking him down and controlling the pace.

    Repeatedly ravaged for two positive drug tests that showed minor traces of clenbuterol - a common occurrence in Mexico due to the contamination of beef across the country, Canelo submitted to more than 20 drug tests in the lead up to the fight and passed them all with flying colors.

    Saddled with a judge’s card of a year ago that he had nothing to do with; the pressure of millions of fans watching; and what many were describing as a must-win to stay relevant, Canelo delivered a near-flawless fight.

    And yet...

    It wouldn’t be boxing if thousands of keyboard warriors weren’t talking (or tweeting) complete nonsense in the hours and days after Canelo began to cement his legacy as an all-time great fighter.

    Many have told me to ignore the haters; that I’ll never win. But while I know I won’t convince many of them, allowing them to even partly soil what was a certain fight of the year; a megaevent seen by millions of people; and a virtuoso performance by boxing’s marquis fighter would do a disservice to the sport I love.

    So allow me to respond to a few of the more absurd comments.

    Golden Boy paid the judges to fix the fight.

    Though I don’t think this deserves response, here are the facts: The three judges were chosen by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. Given the result of the first fight, NSAC was under a lot of scrutiny to come up with the fairest group of judges possible. For the first time I know of, GBP and team GGG were even allowed to approve a pool of judges. They saw what everyone else did; a close, competitive fight and scored it exactly that way.

    Golovkin landed more punches and therefore should have won the fight.

    If landed punches were the difference between winning or losing a boxing match, we would have an incredibly different and less interesting sport. Clean punching, ring generalship, effective aggressiveness and defense are what the judges are looking for in determining the winner of a round. I’m obviously a promoter, but in the four areas that actually count in judging, I can’t find one where GGG was the victor.

    Tom Loeffler’s statement that he doesn’t know if Golvokin can win a decision in Las Vegas.

    Perhaps Tom is just looking to make GGG feel better, but regardless this is maybe the most disappointing comment, because it comes from someone who knows the sport. Of course, GGG can win a decision in Vegas. But 22,000 people aren’t going to crowd into the T-Mobile to watch Golovkin fight and blast out the likes of Dominic Wade, Willie Monroe, Jr., or Vanes Martirosyan. He is going to need to fight a higher level of competition - and then fight better than that opponent - to earn a victory in the mecca of boxing.

    Boxing is a wonderful sport that is coming back thanks to streaming technology and growing international interest. But it is a sport that also faces competition, not only from the outside in the form of other, more-widely watched leagues, but from inside where the fractured nature of boxing has made it tougher and tougher for the best to face the bes

    Just look at celebrity row to see how special Saturday night was. There, another best-in-sport athlete, Lebron James, joined Will Smith, Mark Wahlberg and a huge group of other A-list celebrities to witness something special.

    While everyone is entitled to his or her opinion (especially in boxing), let’s take a moment to appreciate what Canelo and GGG gave us on Saturday night and work towards doing it more often for the sake of the sport we all love so much.

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    Yes was so happy for that red headed mexican he is awesome

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    Yep, happy for Canelo too... he deserved it.. when the last time you saw someone
    make GGG back up and put his hands down by his side in exhaustion.... he took some
    vicious body blows...
    The latest I have read is that Canelo not in that much of a hurry for a 3rd match..
    Canelo says he wants Canadian ko artist David Lemieux on December 15.. the Canadian
    knocked out his rival in the prelims... but, GGG already knocked Lemieux out..
    Canelo said if he does fight GGG again it would be in May of 2019..
    But says he wants to fight this year. (50 mil doesn't go far these days)
    Canelo was clubbing all around Vegas after the fight... an ex girlfriend texted me and
    told me she saw him at the Paris Hotel...well, his body guards anyway.. didn't actually see Canelo.
    Big crowd around him..
    Course Teddy Atlas thinks GGG got robbed..so does Stephen Smith on ESPN... both nuts!
    GGG trainer thought the fight was a draw!

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    Boxing fans like to see KO's or beatdowns
    when a fight comes as close as this one did ,, everyone becomes a
    boxing expert depending on who's side they're on

    I also thought it was a draw ,,, or at least would've liked it to be

    But by the end of the fight GGG's face showed the battle scars and
    his body hid them ,, I can only imagine what his rib cage looked like

    apart from the "headbut" cut on Canelo's face he looked like he went
    for a jog and wasn't even winded

    and even though I wanted it to be a draw ,, I also think the right
    decision was made

    Stephen Smith has got to be the most "one side" "opinionated" d*ck
    on sports television ... don't even know why he still has a show

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    i hate bringing up the azzhole instead of calling out Canelo after the fight look who the coward goes after
    i wish someone would tupac him!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by TLG View Post
    Boxing fans like to see KO's or beatdowns
    when a fight comes as close as this one did ,, everyone becomes a
    boxing expert depending on who's side they're on

    I also thought it was a draw ,,, or at least would've liked it to be

    But by the end of the fight GGG's face showed the battle scars and
    his body hid them ,, I can only imagine what his rib cage looked like

    apart from the "headbut" cut on Canelo's face he looked like he went
    for a jog and wasn't even winded

    and even though I wanted it to be a draw ,, I also think the right
    decision was made

    Stephen Smith has got to be the most "one side" "opinionated" d*ck
    on sports television ... don't even know why he still has a show

    yet another ignorant azzhole with an IQ no higher than his age.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefcake View Post
    Yes was so happy for that red headed mexican he is awesome
    Here is another pretty good redheaded Mexican Boxer..................

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveOtoo View Post
    Here is another pretty good redheaded Mexican Boxer..................

    yeah he was pretty good but no match for Salvador Sanchez who tko`ed him twice!

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    Yes, he was great! His brother Indian Red Lopez was a very good fighter too... not as good
    as Danny though..
    Yes Highway, Salvador ko'd him twice.. but Danny was at the end of his career and Sal was
    just starting.. Danny hit Sal with some vicious right hands that woulda ko'd anyone else.
    But combo of Danny old and punchy and Salvador a granite chin and young. Plus he hit hard too.
    Danny ended up in very bad bad shape..like Bobby Chacon and the Querry brothers and of course Ali.
    I spoke to the owner of the Main Street gym in Los Angeles after Danny tried to make a comeback.
    He says the Ca boxing commision went to see Danny spar in order to reissue his license.
    They saw one round, stopped the sparring session, took Danny and his manager Georgino to a room
    and promptly left... no way! This mighta been his 2nd comeback..not sure. But it was his last attempt.
    Ernie has left us... Think Danny still with us.. but in bad shape. I remember Chacon could not even
    talk anymore his last 5 or so years in his life.
    Off topic I know... but just started reminising... sorry.
    Born and bred close to downtown Los Angeles... walking distance to Howie Steidlers Main St gym.
    They ALL trained there.. even movie stars. 50 cents and you walk in and mingle.
    OK... sorry.

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    Great post Steve...that was Howie... he owned the place... him and Duke his colored assistant.
    Boy could Howie cuss!! never met anyone in my life that could cuss like him.. but it was funny.
    He cussed out Sonny Liston when Sonny was 2 or 3 hours late for his sparring session.
    Sonny ignored him.
    Howie was murdered on a freeway offramp... never found the killer..
    Couldn't read your column... but i know most of it... Danny and Ernie both trained there..
    Danny was the nicest guy you could ever meet... Ernie didn't talk much.
    Great days! great people back then.

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    It looks like Canelo will be fighting Rocky Fielding this coming Saturday and broadcasted by dazn. HBO is now out of the business broadcasting the ppv fights with DAZN being the new player in town. Will it be live streamed on the services?

    Which sports will live-stream on DAZN?
    In the U.S., DAZN offers fight fans live boxing and MMA events. And a live look-in baseball show arrives in time for the 2019 Major League Baseball season where fans can follow game-by-game action in real time. DAZN will also offer on-demand MLB content plus live weekend wrap shows.

    DAZN Group signed a $1 billion deal with Matchroom Boxing USA to live stream 32 fights per year exclusively on DAZN, and another nine-figure deal with Bellator to live stream 22 events per year. DAZN will also live stream the World Boxing Super Series' 15 fight nights each year, featuring a total of 21 bouts across the three knockout tournaments.

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