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    With all the buzz around the buzz3000 I gave it a shot. It’s a 2gb xpl3000 buzz 2018 edition.
    Set it up was easy enough.
    Guide was a nice look and options easy to get to.

    Basically a android box with its own Iptv app . Livetv has search function lets u find channels. The guide interface looks really slick nice lots info and vod sections show episodes as list. Got a nice looking epg grid also. Those seem to be the things that set it apart from mag/stbemu.
    I guess it’s a good box to get if u don’t already got a android box And gonna do Iptv.

    I already got android boxes and after a Few days using I’m struggling to like it over stbemu or mag.
    First thing is if u got Mac u using on multiple different mag or stbemu boxes it will lock to buzz I’m assuming buzz must send device Id cause I tried cloning serial number too but no go, not able to go back to another mag/stbemu.

    Next it’s kinda slow not as responsive as mag/stbemu and channel list and info must loadad on every start and lil lag every time u change channel wait for channel info to display correct. I have used the cleanup brush option and also clean cache in settings for buzz app that didn’t help . And as for loading on start for livetv when u switch to videoclub/vod same thing it loads and authenticates. If u want radio section I didn’t see it on buzz.
    Also remote u gotta have pointed at box not huge issue but thought I’d mention it.

    If u select favorite channels when u go to view them u can only sort them via number or by name. No way to move channels around manually and group them like u can in stbem/mag. Makes for a messy list on buzz.

    If u go to timeshift it works but seeks ff rew really slow. And when u kick outta timeshift it kicks u back to livetv not list of day u where last looking at so u gotta go back that day all over again.
    Also with timeshift it’s not clear like on mag/stbemu how far back rec goes. Red lil rec icon on mag/stbemu

    In simple view When u are looking at catigory livetv like English or favorites or sports ect and viewing channels there’s no indication on screen telling u what category you are in.
    Also when u viewing a channel in preview window and browsing other avail channels there’s no idication what channel is showing in preview window if u forget.
    If u have adult section livetv it will not have password default set. On mags/stbemu many portal have it set to something those boxes will default to that. On buzz it didn’t see that think it was 0000 or not even set. Also even after it’s set u can still view channel names on in adult catigory which can/May be very descriptive.

    So far that’s everything I can remember last few days of testing it. I understand they update fw now and then maybe they can take these issues into consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tec9 View Post
    With all the buzz around the buzz3000 I gave it a shot. It’s a 2gb xpl3000 buzz 2018 edition.
    Set it up was easy enough.
    Guide was a nice look and options easy to get to.

    Basically a android box with its own Iptv app . Livetv has search function lets u find channels. The guide interface looks really slick nice lots info and vod sections show episodes as list. Got a nice looking epg grid also. Those seem to be the things that set it apart from mag/stbemu.
    I guess it’s a good box to get if u don’t already got a android box And gonna do Iptv.

    I already got android boxes and after a Few days using I’m struggling to like it over stbemu or mag.
    First thing is if u got Mac u using on multiple different mag or stbemu boxes it will lock to buzz I’m assuming buzz must send device Id cause I tried cloning serial number too but no go, not able to go back to another mag/stbemu.

    Next it’s kinda slow not as responsive as mag/stbemu and channel list and info must loadad on every start and lil lag every time u change channel wait for channel info to display correct. I have used the cleanup brush option that didn’t help . And as for loading on start for livetv when u switch to videoclub/vod same thing it loads and authenticates every time. If u want radio section I didn’t see it on buzz.
    Also remote u gotta have pointed at box not huge issue but thought I’d mention it.

    If u select favorite channels when u go to view them u can only sort them via number or by name. No way to move channels around manually and group them like u can in stbem/mag. Makes for a messy list on buzz.

    If u go to timeshift it works but seeks ff rew really slow. And when u kick outta timeshift it kicks u back to livetv not list of day u where last looking at so u gotta go back that day all over again.
    Also with timeshift it’s not clear like on mag/stbemu how far back rec goes. Red lil rec icon on mag/stbemu

    In simple view When u are looking at catigory livetv like English or favorites or sports ect and viewing channels there’s no indication on screen telling u what category you are in.
    Also when u viewing a channel in preview window and browsing other avail channels there’s no idication what channel is showing in preview window if u forget.
    If u have adult section livetv it will not have password default set. On mags/stbemu many portal have it set to something those boxes will default to that. On buzz it didn’t see that think it was 0000 or not even set. Also even after it’s set u can still view channel names on in adult catigory which can/May be very descriptive.

    So far that’s everything I can remember last few days of testing it. I understand they update fw now and then maybe they can take these issues into consideration.

    In regards to the MAC lock to a buzz, I can confirm at least for me, using OK3, there is no lock. I have my sub using MAC, and I have it on my BUZZ box in my living room, and I have given the SAME MAC on one of the profiiles on STBEMU on my mii box in my bedroom and it works fine (obviously only one at a time active). One thing I did notice on STBEmu in this case, is that I had to select very specific STB to emulate. Trying to emulate an Aura STB or the higher model MAG units, it would tell me that it was blocked. Changing back to something like the MAG254 it works fine. Strange, but not complaining. Don't really see a huge difference between different emulations anyhow.

    For me the one big thing I like on the BUZZ, is the EPG layout. I really don't like the simple view (also available on the buzz). It is annoying to have to select the the channel, to see it's EPG. I like the full EPG matrix style layout. Yes it can be slow, but I use the pageup/pagedn button, to switch one pagefull at a time, and I find it acceptable. IT does not cache/preload the EPG, which is why it is always up to date, but downside is that it takes time to load it at every page full. EPG is very similar to that available on "Perfect Player", but lately with Perfect player, it can take up to 5 minutes to just load the M3U playlist/XML epg. On Perfect player, this delay is due to the lack of parsing the panel_api file to determine which categories are liveTV vs VOD. So the more and more gets added to VOD section, the loading time is getting ridiculous.

    I find the BUZZ (2018 version at least) does have some memory leak in it's network stack, that if you just put it to sleep everytime (power button), then eventually the network (even hardwired) gets really slow. Changed behaviour of power button to actually power unit off every time, which adds about 30 seconds to power up sequence, but at least I have yet to see the network issue since then.

    There are a few bugs that buzz is aware about (like favorites on VOD which don't work), and may others. It is on thier ToDo list apparently. Let's see when they push the next update. I'd rather wait and have something clean, than have a half-@ss update like Mii did on their Oreo updates on the Mii Box 3 units. They finally released another major patch a few days ago.

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    Where do you see that toodo list or known bugs? Are ones I mentioned all known issues ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tec9 View Post
    Where do you see that toodo list or known bugs? Are ones I mentioned all known issues ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tec9 View Post
    In simple view When u are looking at catigory livetv like English or favorites or sports ect and viewing channels there’s no indication on screen telling u what category you are in.
    Also when u viewing a channel in preview window and browsing other avail channels there’s no idication what channel is showing in preview window if u forget.
    If u have adult section livetv it will not have password default set. On mags/stbemu many portal have it set to something those boxes will default to that. On buzz it didn’t see that think it was 0000 or not even set. Also even after it’s set u can still view channel names on in adult catigory which can/May be very descriptive.
    Please, do not mislead folks on this site or potential owners of the buzz unit. What you should do, instead of writing what you think you remember, you should write on the issues you have as you go through the unit because your memory is defeating you.

    If you are in favorites, English or sports category using simple view you will not be able to see which category you are in because you are in simple view. If you are in detailed view you will be able to see. Also, while in simple view in order to choose a category you have to hit left arrow on the remote. You either choose simple or detail, it is as simple as that. The buzz configuration option gives you that privilege!!

    If you are in preview window and you browse other channels, there is an indication telling you which channel you are watching. Because, the channel name and number is listed inside the preview itself at the bottom. If you cannot see it I suggest you book an appointment to the eye doctor, seriously!

    The adult section in livetv does have a password default set and it is 0000 as you think it was. Yes you can still see channel names and so forth but that will be taken care of very soon.

    So please, if you don't know or can't remember, it is best to stay away from the keyboard.
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    I wasn’t going from memory or trying to mislead I was in front of unit when I wrote that. I was trying to be as factual and consise as possible. Took my time reviewing it to hopefully help others and buzz adress issues in case no one else had brought them up. Only thing I went from memory was adult password which was on initial setup so I thought I’d mention that so others knew in case they had little ones around.
    I do have bad eyes so I will check again when I get buzz back I gave it to someone to try see what they think. 2 others that tried it perfered speed and simplicity of stbemu to buzz. I’m not saying I don’t like buzz I even said it’s good butwith the issues I experienced I perfered stbemu. When buzz fixes those issues I’d gladly give it another try cause it’s interface is nice and it’s got lot going right for it.
    Yea in simple view u can’t see catigory I know u can see in detailed view that’s why I wrote about simple view. Hopefully they can add that somewhere on screen.
    Thanx dishuser emporium and maestro for the info hope they update soon.
    Last edited by tec9; 10-02-2018 at 09:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tec9 View Post
    I wasn’t going from memory or trying to mislead I was in front of unit when I wrote that. I was trying to be as factual and consise as possible.
    It is best that you read the last paragraph of your original post, also based on some of the false info you put out, concise and factual are the incorrect words used
    Took my time reviewing it to hopefully help others and buzz adress issues in case no one else had brought them up. Only thing I went from memory was adult password which was on initial setup so I thought I’d mention that so others knew in case they had little ones around.
    It is good to help others but if you had also took the time to review the buzz section you might have seen similar posts to the issues you raised or you might have found posts with solutions to whatever issues

    I do have bad eyes so I will check again when I get buzz back I gave it to someone to try see what they think. 2 others that tried it perfered speed and simplicity of stbemu to buzz. I’m not saying I don’t like buzz I even said it’s good butwith the issues I experienced I perfered stbemu. When buzz fixes those issues I’d gladly give it another try cause it’s interface is nice and it’s got lot going right for it.
    I'm not sure what speed or simplicity issues you are having but you did mention the buzz having to authenticate upon loading. If you notice, STBemu has to load its portal upon opening.....that too, is authentication and the buzz has the detailed EPG which appears just like the STBemu setup but with the bonus of having a grid EPG as well

    Yea in simple view u can’t see catigory I know u can see in detailed view that’s why I wrote about simple view. Hopefully they can add that somewhere on screen.
    That's why you have the option to choose simplified or detailed, which STBemu doesn't have. And in simplified all it takes is the click of the left arrow too see or change category. On the other hand, with STBemu you have to leave livetv and go back to main menu to see or change category......But with the Buzz units you are afforded the speed and simplicity you and along with others crave for

    Thanx dishuser emporium and maestro for the info hope they update soon.
    You are most welcome and when it happens......remember to show your gratitude.
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    I did not post false information. I posted my experience with buzz and listed the things that that I hoped get fixed as those issues are reason I didn’t keep using the box. Maybe I should have listed more things that are good about the box but forum is filled with those that’s why I bought it.
    I reread last paragraph. if you referring to the word “remember” that was me trying to recall anything I may have left out. I have read buzz section and many the issues where not mentioned that’s why I posted.
    As for speed like I said in original post it lags lil bit on chan changes not much but is there and same for the channel info under preview screen takes a a second. It’s not major but it’s there.as for the authentication it does first time u go to livetv just like stbemu yes but u go to vod and it does it again. Also no radio feature. As for simple view would be nice to know what catigory u are in on screen without having to have detailed view is all I asked . Also forgot to add that if u are watching in favorites catigory sometimes if u do catchup and kick back to livetv go back to catigory it will revert back to whatever catigory that channel belongs to like English or sports ect..
    as for the epg grid guide it’s nice feature but too much going on in there for me others may love it but I found it easier to navigate without it that’s why I didn’t really post much about It I didn’t want someone who loves grid epg to crap on post because I didn’t like it. I said it was nice looking which it is that’s where I left it. For me nothing to fix there. I’m not trying to upset or anger people I was just trying to help and provide my experience with the buzz. I’m sure most of not all these issues can be corrected.
    The biggest issue for me and few others would be not having ability to edit order of favorites move channels around manually. I know u can sort by channel name or number. But being able to sort them move channels around . If it had that I’d still use it and live with rest of the issues I listed and wait for them to get fixed but as it is now channels are mixed up in order in favorites as that’s where it will sit 90% of the time
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    If you post information based on your experience and I point out to you where your info is wrong and I proved it, is your info true or false?

    Channel change timing depends a whole lot on the iptv service you are using. I know this because I currently use a South American service where channel change is literally a split second, like instant. I have not used any server as fast as it as yet.

    I see your point regarding reauthentication of VOD which should be looked into and having no radio section. I believe if the server have radio channels it will show up but I could be wrong about that.

    Catchup and categories is worth looking into as well and once you mention it you can guarantee it will happen. Epg is user preference as well but nothing beats grid view.

    The ability to organize channels as you wish is a good option, and the fact that buzz releases updates frequently I am sure that is one of the requests that might be answered.

    So go take back your buzz from that friend and enjoy it.

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    I’m not finding what I posted was false or wrong? Exept the channel info in the preview window which with my bad eyes I didn’t notice I kept looking at channel list for a play icon like on stbemu. If that channel number info is on that preview window I think that’s great. I don’t want anyone thinking I’m posting false info.

    As for speed, that was comparing same servers on stbemu mag and buzz. It wasn’t speed of tuning channel it was the actual movement of the cursor before u get to the channel u want and also the little lag it takes for info to display like what’s playing and times under the preview window. It will show last channels info it was on for a second not a huge issue but the lag in selecting channels going up down in list and sideways to do catchup. Is noticeable if you used to stbemu or mag which seems snappier. Also it always kicking to livetv when u exit catchup and not list of shows on same date. U gotta go back to select date and time if it’s a show right after it’s one u just watched. Don’t show how far back rec go no icon showin that. Also ff and rewind on catchup is slow but I read it’s better now than it used to be many months ago.
    I got list of issues I got with stbemu too nothing is perfect I understand that.

    I’ll prob grab buzz back when that fav issue gets resolved but I may not be able to pry it outta his hands by then.
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    what are you talking about mouse movement?

    you just use the tv remote when using tv and there epg
    people only use the mouse when searching threw the vods and for that use a wireless keyboard

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    No I’m not using mouse maybe word cusor was wrong choice I should have said the selected channel hilighted by using remote pressing up and down going through list of channels

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    OP,

    Had you read though this forum you would have figured out that no one can say negative things about the Buzz box here. Because it is perfect...

    The reality is that most can not be objective about a box.

    There are issues and complaints about every box. One has to use the one that best suits their needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue17 View Post
    OP,

    Had you read though this forum you would have figured out that no one can say negative things about the Buzz box here. Because it is perfect...

    The reality is that most can not be objective about a box.

    There are issues and complaints about every box. One has to use the one that best suits their needs.
    Don't think it's perfect but it's pretty close. If no one could say negative things about the buzz, those particular posts would be deleted instantly.

    It's a great iptv unit and we appreciate it

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    The Simple rule is not box is every going to be perfect and you use what best suits your needs.

    Buzz tv does many thing quite well and there is of course a few bugs that need addressing but they do listen which is more then many do.

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