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    Default Pirate IPTV Services Will Be Blocked Says Set-Top Box Manufacturer

    Infomir, the manufacturer of the popular MAG range of set-top boxes, says it will block the portals of suspected copyright-infringing IPTV providers following complaints from copyright holders. While MAG devices are used to access plenty of legal services, the news will come as a blow to large numbers of customers who use the very capable devices to access unauthorized platforms.


    Over the past couple of years, unauthorized IPTV services have been making their presence known in the ‘pirate’ TV space.

    As recently reported pirate IPTV services are accessed by 5.5% of US and Canadian households. The range of content is phenomenal, with few – if any – official entertainment companies in a position to compete.

    Such services are typically accessed via set-top boxes, from ubiquitous Android-based platforms through to dedicated IPTV hardware. None of these devices are designed to be infringing but with the addition of third-party services, they can be transformed into piracy powerhouses.
    For those looking for a premium IPTV experience, the MAG box range from Ukraine-based Infomir are the tools of choice. The compact devices are used by thousands of consumers to access legitimate content via a beautiful interface but like any such hardware, these boxes can also be used to access infringing streams.

    Infomir has understandably distanced itself from this kind of illicit consumption but until now doesn’t appear to have interfered with the choices of its customers. Moving forward, however, it’s clear that will change.
    “Infomir is an international company operating in over 150 countries globally. As a manufacturer of multimedia devices, we are subject to copyright and related rights legislation, which we respect and adhere to,” the company says.

    “Upon receiving complaints from a copyright holder, Infomir is obliged to restrict access from its devices to any portal suspected of copyright infringement. The restriction will be maintained until the issue with the copyright holder is resolved.”

    IPTV services (both legal and less so) often supply a URL which enables MAG and similar devices to access their ‘portal’. These are entered into the device’s setup page, with the box typically being authorized at the provider’s end by verifying its MAC address against a pre-registered one.
    However, Infomir appears able to prevent certain portal URLs from being accessed via its set-top devices and there are some unconfirmed reports online which indicate this may be happening already.
    TorrentFreak spoke with Infomir to find out more about this development. Will the company block portals following straightforward copyright complaints, for example, or is a court order required?

    “The complaints need not be necessarily backed up by a court order. The form and contents of a copyright complaint must conform to the DMCA requirements,” Infomir Legal Counsel Vladislav Larionov informs TF.
    “Our policy is to comply with the EU and US legislation on copyright and take into account best practices in the area of handling of copyright infringement reports. In particular, we only process the reports of copyright infringement that contain all the elements of notification envisaged by the DMCA.”

    Some IPTV providers not only provide access to ‘pirate’ streams but also other content that has the potential to be non-infringing, depending on a users’ circumstances. For instance, there could be questions raised over legality when the holder of a UK TV license only accesses BBC One and similar channels via an IPTV service.

    Speaking in more general terms, TF asked Infomir if over-blocking is a concern. The company told us that they require detailed complaints from rightsholders to block portals and they give services that are blocked the right to file a counter-complaint.
    “We respect the rights of legitimate service providers, and we are concerned that such service providers might be reported by mistake or due to misidentification. That is why we request that copyright infringement reports submitted to us comply with the DMCA and contain a statement under penalty of perjury that the report is true and accurate,” Larionov explains.

    “We also review each copyright infringement report to prevent false or abusive ones. Finally, we provide every service provider with a possibility to oppose a copyright infringement report. In case there is a dispute between a copyright holder and a service provider, we will request a court order to maintain access restriction to a portal.”
    While copyright holders who file for blocking injunctions in court can be identified fairly easily, discovering who has filed a complaint with Infomir is less straightforward. The company told TF that it cannot provide information on who has requested a block other than to say it is mostly “big copyright holders, anti-piracy associations, and companies that provide copyright management and protection services.”

    Finally, it’s not entirely clear how MAG devices are prevented from accessing portal URLs and Infomir informs TF that it won’t provide that information as it might “downgrade” its “access restriction system”. There is already some speculation on specialist forums that firmware updates may be responsible but no clear confirmation is currently available.

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    most of iptv,if not all, using mag devices are illegal. this means that iptv servers will be blocked on mag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by astaza View Post
    most of iptv,if not all, using mag devices are illegal. this means that iptv servers will be blocked on mag?
    read the thread title

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Eyes View Post
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    Finally, it’s not entirely clear how MAG devices are prevented from accessing portal URLs and Infomir informs TF that it won’t provide that information as it might “downgrade” its “access restriction system”. There is already some speculation on specialist forums that firmware updates may be responsible but no clear confirmation is currently available.
    Any guesses as to how Infomir is blocking these portals?
    If the pirates can figure out how they are blocking it - I'm guessing they could find a way to unblock it :-)

    I'm sure Infomir is under a lot of pressure to make it look like they do NOT condone pirtates and they have to appear to be taking steps to try and prevent it - but their business is dead without pirates IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astaza View Post
    most of iptv,if not all, using mag devices are illegal. this means that iptv servers will be blocked on mag?
    C/P
    If they are blocking the portal URL, I suspect it will be international and so won't matter if you are in EU, US, Canada, Australia or India, if your box uses a portal url which has had a legitimate complaint filed with Informir then it will get blocked, I doubt they are cherry picking boxes based on user location. Besides, in their reply to Torrentfreak, Infomir have made it quite clear that they appear to be open to US based entities to have their content blocked too. Quote “Our policy is to comply with the EU and US legislation on copyright and take into account best practices in the area of handling of copyright infringement reports" so its not just an EU based exercise and I imagine once the word gets around the industry, it won't just be the UK / EU channels affected, technically I suspect any copyright holder from anywhere in the world could complain about their content appearing on a providers' portal, and I reckon Infomir would be happy to comply and add the URL once the rights of the complainant had been verified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jedi View Post
    Any guesses as to how Infomir is blocking these portals?
    If the pirates can figure out how they are blocking it - I'm guessing they could find a way to unblock it :-)

    I'm sure Infomir is under a lot of pressure to make it look like they do NOT condone pirtates and they have to appear to be taking steps to try and prevent it - but their business is dead without pirates IMO.
    Most underground IPTV services provide other ways to access their content. And then there is STB Emulator.
    Of course, if I had one of their boxes and my IPTV got blocked I would be upset but there are other alternatives.

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    Infomir midse we'll apply for bankruptcy protection than. And realistically we have many alternatives. I was never overly impressed with their boxes anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Eyes View Post
    Most underground IPTV services provide other ways to access their content. And then there is STB Emulator.
    Of course, if I had one of their boxes and my IPTV got blocked I would be upset but there are other alternatives.
    stb emu is based on stalker(mag)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Eyes View Post
    C/P
    If they are blocking the portal URL, I suspect it will be international and so won't matter if you are in EU, US, Canada, Australia or India, if your box uses a portal url which has had a legitimate complaint filed with Informir then it will get blocked, I doubt they are cherry picking boxes based on user location. Besides, in their reply to Torrentfreak, Infomir have made it quite clear that they appear to be open to US based entities to have their content blocked too. Quote “Our policy is to comply with the EU and US legislation on copyright and take into account best practices in the area of handling of copyright infringement reports" so its not just an EU based exercise and I imagine once the word gets around the industry, it won't just be the UK / EU channels affected, technically I suspect any copyright holder from anywhere in the world could complain about their content appearing on a providers' portal, and I reckon Infomir would be happy to comply and add the URL once the rights of the complainant had been verified.
    I'm kind of old school i guess. Professional courtesy states you name the C/P.

    Not a big deal i guess, just one of my pet peeves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfinisfun View Post
    I'm kind of old school i guess. Professional courtesy states you name the C/P.

    Not a big deal i guess, just one of my pet peeves.
    not if it came from a private site

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    The MAG is the best for me because I do my own channel list .
    .p.s -I dont pay for any portal ..Everything is on the net ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jedi View Post
    Any guesses as to how Infomir is blocking these portals?
    If the pirates can figure out how they are blocking it - I'm guessing they could find a way to unblock it :-)

    I'm sure Infomir is under a lot of pressure to make it look like they do NOT condone pirtates and they have to appear to be taking steps to try and prevent it - but their business is dead without pirates IMO.
    Private servers will not get blocked only those who advertised in the social media everywhere.as long as you don't update the firmware on the Mag boxes to recent releases then you won't be blocked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Eyes View Post
    Private servers will not get blocked only those who advertised in the social media everywhere.as long as you don't update the firmware on the Mag boxes to recent releases then you won't be blocked?
    My understanding is that it's the firmwares released after June 2018. The case I heard of site blocking was someone in Finland and his iptv provider was on Facebook. Some European countries have legislation in place that allows for site blocking.

    In Canada, Bell has been lobbying the CRTC to allow them to block certain sites. Along with Rogers,Shaw, Quebecor - Vertically Integrated companies and other interested parties.

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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bell-piracy-website-blocking-internet-1.4308068
    With Ian Scott as chairperson of the CRTC a former lobbyist of Telus who has shown is not consumer friendly then who knows what will happen.

    Site blocking or not, there are other ways that internet providers can try and discourage people that have iptv. So no Box is immune to that. And most probably people will need VPNs.

    But getting back to the Mags, they are open source and there are patches that fix this. Boxes are being flashed and no more blocked sites.
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    you need to code external links

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    looks like infomir has started blocking some iptv services

    pop up messg on mag boxes
    "the web page you were trying to visit has been blocked in accordance with manufacture content protection and privacy prevention policy.please contact your IPTV service provider for more information."
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