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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsmoke2 - GS2 View Post
    One thing Courts do not like is when their Court order is disobeyed. What choice were they left with.? Who should we blame for this happening ? The Court ? The ISP's for not fighting strong enough ? Frankly I blame GoldTv.
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    I agree with GS2.

    It's one thing to screw with the providers but never the court. GoldTV could have regrouped and rebranded but instead through their obstinance they became an example for the court's over-reaching ruling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvinGardens View Post
    I agree with GS2.

    It's one thing to screw with the providers but never the court. GoldTV could have regrouped and rebranded but instead through their obstinance they became an example for the court's over-reaching ruling.
    according to haha11 they're untouchable
    and smart...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishuser View Post
    according to haha11 they're untouchable
    and smart...lol
    I said "...moved", never said "untouchable". Go poke someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haha11 View Post
    I said "...moved", never said "untouchable". Go poke someone else.
    and you know this how?
    it's your service?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishuser View Post
    according to haha11 they're untouchable
    and smart...lol
    Even if this is true that wasn't my point.

    They may be able to walk away though they left a legacy that totally screwed the community they left behind.
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    gunsmoke2,why dont't you give GoldTv credit for still operating and giving us a service we can afford! The big 3 are the crooks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvinGardens View Post
    Even if this is true that wasn't my point.

    They may be able to walk away though they left a legacy that totally screwed the community they left behind.



    What they have succeeded in doing is having their business cut off, their customers I assume will be affected, forced a Court to set a new precedent of forcing IPS to block traffic, have upset customers of the ISP who feel their service they pay for should be not infringed.


    Everyone loses in this situation except the Plaintiffs who now have a new weapon other Courts will follow if requested. I blame GoldTv for all of this. It does not mean I side with Providers or anything. My opinion is just an legal one not a as a lawyer since I am not one, just from a layman on what it seems to me. I did not see that the Court had another option nor did I think they look kindly to their injunction orders being blatantly ignored.




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    Quote Originally Posted by brandy1 View Post
    gunsmoke2,why dont't you give GoldTv credit for still operating and giving us a service we can afford! The big 3 are the crooks!

    As I just wrote my opinion is that mostly of a legal one based on the Court decision, losers, and winners, why I think the Court ruled the way they did and who I felt was the cause of it.


    I am never going to be the one to be popular because I decided a long time ago to say it as I feel it regardless of the negative reactions. I have been around on sites one of the longest starting in 1998 when they first started. I have seen this play out over and over. You say why not give them credit for operating and giving you a service you can afford. That is great. I give them credit. So now I asked you then, so where is the problem? Are you happy with the service they currently provide? and do you anticipate it will continue? and if they were to be identified and their customer records were to be seized and end users received demand letters to pay a large amount or else, you being one of them would you be happy about that?




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    Quote Originally Posted by dishuser View Post
    and you know this how?
    it's your service?
    It's my plumber's

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    no need VPN, for me same old URL works, just change DNS to 8, 8, 8 ,8

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    there is several IPTV providers that will not let you use a VPN which is crazy as hell! Radiosity is one of them.

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    I read Tech Savvey is appealing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuman View Post
    I read Tech Savvey is appealing it.



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    They are appealing it mostly that the order infringes on Canadians' freedom of speech being the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Now the Charter is absolute but there are exceptions.


    Again my opinion is merely an legal one not as a lawyer but base on whatever I have seen from before. Doesn't mean I am right or doesn't mean that is what I want.


    I do not think the appeal will be successful on those grounds maybe on other grounds they are putting forth. I have never seen The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms extend to a Piracy or Copyright site or any illegal activity. I understand the argument that the internet user is being restricted thus their rights are being infringed but correct me if I am wrong or have it wrong, I understand they are being blocked from reaching this one site only. And if that is the case I think the appeal is asking the Court to give way to Rights and Freedoms to access an illegal site offering Copyright material that they are not legally allowed to offer. On that basis I can see the appeal failing but in Court you never know.




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    I don't know but I think TekSavvy has a pretty good argument

    even the CRTC rejected the idea of forcing ISPs to block the content

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