ok, pulled the HD module and box would boot up!! So I then put new factory file and the latest file. Then remembered I had a new HD module so put that in!! Now it all seems to work except for trying to connect to server as that is a bitch cause you can't see if it saved or not?? Hope i'am using correct info?? Waiting on sat9182 for that?? Anyhow seems to be good now, thanks everyone for your help!!!