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    You forgot to mention the other common denominator was the ones that got the letter had purchased Rocket/N F P S and it was Rocket/N F P S reseller that turned over their information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3900 View Post
    Whats wrong?
    buy from a re-seller in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whoknows View Post
    You forgot to mention the other common denominator was the ones that got the letter had purchased Rocket/N F P S and it was Rocket/N F P S reseller that turned over their information.
    No, there are other servers. Stargate Portal, etc. But you are right, all from re-sellers info. And yes, they got the re-sellers info from PP.

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    well i wounder how long pp keeps does records before they are recycle....for what i understand hotmail and other services keep a copy of all e-mails 6 months to 1 year and then is all flush out of their servers to make space....i remember cases on tv were police is investigating a murder and went to e-mail providers to retrieve their info and found out they dont keep it that long in their server and what they were looking for had already been deleted from the server....so i wounder how long pp keeps it before it removes it.

    i believe if after 1 year your pretty much safe....now agree with the others here dont pay for service using PP.

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    So it seems that all this talk is around Charlie. Is anyone out there concerned about BEV here in Canada???

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    here's what I found
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    Quote Originally Posted by dishuser View Post
    here's what I found
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    Very good info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftanewbie View Post
    buy from a re-seller in the US.
    I'm don't understand the logic behind your post. Since dn is in the US and the court cases are in the US and any resellers that gave up the information are in the US wouldn't it be better dealing with a reseller from Canada?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftanewbie View Post
    well i wounder how long pp keeps does records before they are recycle....for what i understand hotmail and other services keep a copy of all e-mails 6 months to 1 year and then is all flush out of their servers to make space....i remember cases on tv were police is investigating a murder and went to e-mail providers to retrieve their info and found out they dont keep it that long in their server and what they were looking for had already been deleted from the server....so i wounder how long pp keeps it before it removes it.

    i believe if after 1 year your pretty much safe....now agree with the others here dont pay for service using PP.
    Last I checked pp keeps all transactional records forever. Not sure how long after the account has been 100% closed but I would guess years. Just think about your personal income taxes.

    As for Hotmail the last I read records were stored 60 days after being deleted from the Recycling Bin (or what ever they call it now). Messages still may be found within other prior backups that have been made.

    Yahoo and Gargle are just as bad.

    You should be able to find more details on eff dot org.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whoknows View Post
    I'm don't understand the logic behind your post. Since dn is in the US and the court cases are in the US and any resellers that gave up the information are in the US wouldn't it be better dealing with a reseller from Canada?
    what i mean is if u going pay it has to be a re-seller thats off sure but u cant use a vanilla card....i give u a example the P$ in mexico are less likely to get raided...but the way things are looking i dont think people have to worry to much if they pay using PP....channels are falling off and it does not look like their coming back....looks like dish has figure it out....but time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ftanewbie View Post
    what i mean is if u going pay it has to be a re-seller thats off sure but u cant use a vanilla card....i give u a example the P$ in mexico are less likely to get raided...but the way things are looking i dont think people have to worry to much if they pay using PP....channels are falling off and it does not look like their coming back....looks like dish has figure it out....but time will tell.
    Can't disagree with most of your post except the part about channel loss and return.

    Seems some have returned, for how long?......thats another question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hutch View Post
    paypal/WU will turn over your phony account info... do not use them as any papertrail will eventually catch up to you/reseller c/p...

    IT IS NOT SAFE TO PURCHASE IKS SERVICES USING PAYPAL
    THEY WILL DISCLOSE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION TO DN ON REQUEST

    THE END USERS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED LEGAL PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF THEIR ACCESS CODE PURCHASE - HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON -- THEY ALL USED PAYPAL TO PURCHASE THEIR ACCESS CODE.
    If the account is phony its going to be tough to track it back to someone. I'm sure the NSA could do it but I think DN is just looking for a list of names and addresses to send out letters. I doubt they are going to track fake names and emails sent on public wifi's with spoofed mac addresses. I agree you should not do anything using your real info.

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    It's not safe to use resellers. They will belly up on you in a split second. Better to buy directly from IKS provider. Do not ever use paypal.Never,Never,Never

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    Quote Originally Posted by gladiator View Post
    It's not safe to use resellers. They will belly up on you in a split second. Better to buy directly from IKS provider. Do not ever use paypal.Never,Never,Never
    then u can get nothing here...everyone here offering service is a reseller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gladiator View Post
    It's not safe to use resellers. They will belly up on you in a split second. Better to buy directly from IKS provider. Do not ever use paypal.Never,Never,Never
    I used to use deal with thebeav directly. That didn't matter now did it?

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