Letter now Court case

[alex70olds]

I have seen only 2 cases in the list where D!5H has pursued "Writs" to collect judgments. one is Ech0 V Steele. He has like 5 vehicles.
It aint like the S0nicview case, they are turning every rock over collecting that judgement.

Still only 9 Wuf cases. Not sure why, (possibly because they don't have server logs?) I would have expected a lot more, but still a lot of time left on the statute of limitations.

[sodusme]

I think the "We will seize your cars, trucks, motorcycles, R/V's, snowmobiles, wife, kids, dog and cigarettes"....depends on what state you live in. Not every state allows that B.S.

They aren't the damn IRS folks....they are only DN/Nagra. Some of you people talk like they are God. At least that one guy did that isn't with us anymore.

[sodusme]

http://www.ckfraud.org/judgement.html

*Getting a judgment is only the beginning in a collection process. The losing party rarely writes a check at the courthouse. The more usual scenario finds the winner continuing to use the judicial system to enforce a judgment.

[hondoharry]

Well these cases are in federal court. Not sure what that means in terms of collection.

[JCO]

Well these cases are in federal court. Not sure what that means in terms of collection.

Its a civil procedure, getting a sentence is easy collecting it could be problematic depending on the persons assets..

[alex70olds]

http://www.ckfraud.org/judgement.html

This is fact. I have a 6 figure judgement in favor of my company, it aint easy to collect.

[fifties]

dude, you have no clue,

when they get a court judgement against you they will freeze your bank account, take every last penny from it, if that does not cover the amount, they will take your assets, if that doesn't cover the amount, they will take your paychecks directly from your employer, or any other source of income you have (government issued checks) until its paid off....

they WILL GET THEIR MONEY, unless you are somebody who has no assets, no bank account, and no formal/taxable income, who could possibly live the rest of their lives like that? a homeless person i guess,

a judgement like this can, and will, destroy your entire life for many years to come....people may act all tough and care free, before hand, but just wait till that hammer falls, then they turn into crying babies,

I am afraid the, of late joeblow, is the one having no clue.

"When they get a court judgement against you" simply means that they can then ask the court to issue a writ, of which can name different tacks, one writ for each, and then given to a law enforcement entity for execution...At a cost for each, of course. Every step beyond the court requires $.

Before doing this, however, they would need to have the court call in the defendant on what's known as an "Orap" (order of appearance of a judgment debtor), so that his/her assets can be verified. After all, how can they seize his car, for example, without knowing what make, model, license plate, and where it's kept? Oh yes, and assuming they do go through with this, they are the ones who have to pay for towing and storage, and if there are monthly car payments, they have to be sure the payments are made, or the lender can then seize the car. Now of course once liquidated, they could go through more legal paperwork to tack on all of these expenses they've incurred. Would it be a safe bet that they most likely won't go this route?

Now what about his bank account? Once he's been in court and given the information, that or the next day he simply closes the account(s) and opens new ones at another bank. No law against that.

I don't believe Social Security payments can be garnished. Not sure about any other form of government income, such as disability, however.

How about garnishing his wages? This is really the only viable way, and then only if he has a steady employer. Wages can be garnished for up to 25% of monthly gross pay, but there's a caveat here; if they are already being garnished, this judgment creditor has to wait until the previous garnishment amount is satisfied, before his can be activated.

Don't ask me how I know all this. Getting the judgment is the easy half of the equation. Collecting on it is the trick.

[ftaalltheway]

This is fact. I have a 6 figure judgement in favor of my company, it aint easy to collect.

finaly,,someone who "gets" it...

[ftaalltheway]

Well these cases are in federal court. Not sure what that means in terms of collection.

exact same procedures have to be followed in all civil at all levels

[ftaalltheway]

I am afraid the, of late joeblow, is the one having no clue.

"When they get a court judgement against you" simply means that they can then ask the court to issue a writ, of which can name different tacks, one writ for each, and then given to a law enforcement entity for execution...At a cost for each, of course. Every step beyond the court requires $.

Before doing this, however, they would need to have the court call in the defendant on what's known as an "Orap" (order of appearance of a judgment debtor), so that his/her assets can be verified. After all, how can they seize his car, for example, without knowing what make, model, license plate, and where it's kept? Oh yes, and assuming they do go through with this, they are the ones who have to pay for towing and storage, and if there are monthly car payments, they have to be sure the payments are made, or the lender can then seize the car. Now of course once liquidated, they could go through more legal paperwork to tack on all of these expenses they've incurred. Would it be a safe bet that they most likely won't go this route?

Now what about his bank account? Once he's been in court and given the information, that or the next day he simply closes the account(s) and opens new ones at another bank. No law against that.

I don't believe Social Security payments can be garnished. Not sure about any other form of government income, such as disability, however.

How about garnishing his wages? This is really the only viable way, and then only if he has a steady employer. Wages can be garnished for up to 25% of monthly gross pay, but there's a caveat here; if they are already being garnished, this judgment creditor has to wait until the previous garnishment amount is satisfied, before his can be activated.

Don't ask me how I know all this. Getting the judgment is the easy half of the equation. Collecting on it is the trick.

its very simple,,,the winner HAS to go to court EVERY single time they want
to effect a garnishment and apply to the courts to approve an amount

that is done for every time they want to collect through the courts, on the very same judgement
cuz they cant get it in one lump sum
only other way is sell the debt to collections and then THAT is where they basically
GIVE UP cuz most times collection agencies dont get SQUAT IF one knows how to play

about the ONLY neg there, would be your rating,,,anyone care?? hell ive gotten lines of credit
with one bad debt on file many times ,,,so freaking what,,,so long as DIK gets ZERO??
id be happy go lucky
and watch my freetv all over again ,,, meaning, EF U DIKheads

[alex70olds]

There are Fed exemptions, and others that vary state to state. Here is a good example of Fed and Illinois exemptions.

Money and Property that Cannot Be Taken to Satisfy a Judgment
Illinois and Federal laws place limits on the collection of a judgment. Exempt money or property cannot be taken from your client for payment of a debt. Your client can be sued and a judgment entered against them, but if their money or property comes from any of the sources listed below, that money or property cannot legally be taken from them to pay the judgment.

Tell the judge or creditor’s attorney that your client's income or property is exempt. However, keep in mind that if your client previously agreed in court to make payments, they may have given up your exemption rights.

Exemptions may not apply to debts owed for taxes, child support, alimony or fines.

List of Exemptions
Personal Property Exemptions
For each family member, necessary clothing, a bible, school books, and family pictures;
One motor vehicle in which interest does not exceed $2,400;
Wildcard Exemption: The exemption is $4,000 worth of property, including money in a bank account. The Wildcard Exemption is a stackable exemption. For example, you can add your wildcard exemption of $4,000 to your car exemption and have a car worth $2,400;
$1,500 worth of implements, professional books or tools for a trade;
Health aids prescribed by a physician;
Money from the sale of exempt property. HOWEVER, the property is not exempt if the property was purchased with the intent of converting non-exempt property into exempt property or with the intent to defraud creditors.
Homestead Exemption: $15,000 of equity in a house, mobile home, condominium, building or lot of land occupied as a residence by the debtor is exempt. Each couple who jointly owns a home would have a $30,000 homestead exemption since each could exempt $15,000.
Income Exemptions
Public Aid and General Assistance:
Aid to the Aged, Blind or Disabled (AABD)
Aid to Families with Dependent Children (TANF)
General Assistance (GA)
Social Security
Supplemental Security Income
Veteran's Administration Benefits (all V.A. benefits are exempt, except benefits subject to specific claims by the United States government)
Worker's Compensation
Black Lung Benefits
Unemployment Compensation
Alimony, Support and Maintenance (exempt only to the extent that they are needed for personal support and the support of dependents)
Pension (exempt only to the extent that they are needed for personal support and the support of dependents)
Payments
The following payments are exempt:

Crime Victim's Award
Wrongful Death Award or Life Insurance payments of a person on whom you are dependent to the extent reasonably necessary for your support
Payment of up to $7,500 for personal injury to you or your dependent
85% of Gross Weekly Wages
Wages cannot be garnished unless take home pay after taxes is more than $371.25 per week (45 times the minimum wage). If take home pay is more than $371.25, the most that can be garnished is 15% of weekly gross pay.

[ftaalltheway]

There are Fed exemptions, and others that vary state to state. Here is a good example of Fed and Illinois exemptions.

Money and Property that Cannot Be Taken to Satisfy a Judgment
Illinois and Federal laws place limits on the collection of a judgment. Exempt money or property cannot be taken from your client for payment of a debt. Your client can be sued and a judgment entered against them, but if their money or property comes from any of the sources listed below, that money or property cannot legally be taken from them to pay the judgment.

Tell the judge or creditor’s attorney that your client's income or property is exempt. However, keep in mind that if your client previously agreed in court to make payments, they may have given up your exemption rights.

Exemptions may not apply to debts owed for taxes, child support, alimony or fines.

List of Exemptions
Personal Property Exemptions
For each family member, necessary clothing, a bible, school books, and family pictures;
One motor vehicle in which interest does not exceed $2,400;
Wildcard Exemption: The exemption is $4,000 worth of property, including money in a bank account. The Wildcard Exemption is a stackable exemption. For example, you can add your wildcard exemption of $4,000 to your car exemption and have a car worth $2,400;
$1,500 worth of implements, professional books or tools for a trade;
Health aids prescribed by a physician;
Money from the sale of exempt property. HOWEVER, the property is not exempt if the property was purchased with the intent of converting non-exempt property into exempt property or with the intent to defraud creditors.
Homestead Exemption: $15,000 of equity in a house, mobile home, condominium, building or lot of land occupied as a residence by the debtor is exempt. Each couple who jointly owns a home would have a $30,000 homestead exemption since each could exempt $15,000.
Income Exemptions
Public Aid and General Assistance:
Aid to the Aged, Blind or Disabled (AABD)
Aid to Families with Dependent Children (TANF)
General Assistance (GA)
Social Security
Supplemental Security Income
Veteran's Administration Benefits (all V.A. benefits are exempt, except benefits subject to specific claims by the United States government)
Worker's Compensation
Black Lung Benefits
Unemployment Compensation
Alimony, Support and Maintenance (exempt only to the extent that they are needed for personal support and the support of dependents)
Pension (exempt only to the extent that they are needed for personal support and the support of dependents)
Payments
The following payments are exempt:

Crime Victim's Award
Wrongful Death Award or Life Insurance payments of a person on whom you are dependent to the extent reasonably necessary for your support
Payment of up to $7,500 for personal injury to you or your dependent
85% of Gross Weekly Wages
Wages cannot be garnished unless take home pay after taxes is more than $371.25 per week (45 times the minimum wage). If take home pay is more than $371.25, the most that can be garnished is 15% of weekly gross pay.

well posted and as thorough as it gets,,,well done

note, this also appllies to the IRS so for those who think DN has so much powers?? think again
and we havent even touched on "exemption of seizures" which are pretty similar and where ONLY
Gov. entities like the IRS have powers to effect

and for sure You NEVER agree on a payment schedule or amount of any kind,,,that will
sink most of your arguments

[Peachseed]

Guys, this guy ( joeblow ) is not worth 1 number on a blood pressure chart...lol

[ftaalltheway]

well posted and as thorough as it gets,,,well done

note, this also appllies to the IRS so for those who think DN has so much powers?? think again
and we havent even touched on "exemption of seizures" which are pretty similar and where ONLY
Gov. entities like the IRS, banking insitutions and or mortgage lenders have powers to effect

and for sure You NEVER agree on a payment schedule or amount of any kind on your own,,,that will
sink most of your arguments if you are claiming destitute

in addition,,
Prperty liens vary from state to state and texas is very strict on these exemptions

Exempt Assets
Certain benefits you receive and assets you hold are exempt from commercial creditors, even if the creditor in question has a court judgment against you. Social Security, unemployment and child support are just a few examples of income that a collection agency can neither intercept nor withdraw from your bank account without your permission. Certain assets you hold, such as your 401k plan, are also exempt from seizure by a collection agency


for sure opinions differ
anyways,,will be something for some of us to watch as this dn crap unfolds

[oz2804]

So is there anyone else that wants to disregard the sites rules and defy staff.. I'm willing to continue playing the game...LOL

yeap! what kind of site just agrees with one another stroking each other off big deal ! the guy forgot to put cp holly reminds me why nobody came back to this dictatorship crap i like others input and not just those that think there smart cause they have some sort of power at a has been sat forum good luck with your bs!