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    Quote Originally Posted by fifties View Post
    Do lawyers do sneaky things? As long as they get the defendant into the courtroom, doesn't really matter to the bench if they have been morally virtuous in the method they used.
    I recall sometime in the past that one of the providers -I think it was Dave- offered some kind of prize, and were able to snare pirate user ID's by that method, in order to then proceed with lawsuits. Hardly moral, but financially effective.
    yes it was Dave and what they done was they offered up some goodies on a channel, I think it was a big discount on subbing but the only place the channel was visible was on hacked boxes... legit subs never got the channel so everybody that jumped on that bandwagon landed in the septic pumping truck

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    Quote Originally Posted by fifties View Post
    Do lawyers do sneaky things? As long as they get the defendant into the courtroom, doesn't really matter to the bench if they have been morally virtuous in the method they used.
    I recall sometime in the past that one of the providers -I think it was Dave- offered some kind of prize, and were able to snare pirate user ID's by that method, in order to then proceed with lawsuits. Hardly moral, but financially effective.
    But that's more of an 'investigatory' technique then an actual 'summons' to court. The act of you answering that advertisement was not indicative of you showing up in court. That was a preliminary stage of investigating satellite piracy at a point when summons hadn't even gone out yet. So that wouldn't pertain to this.

    Also I beg to differ there is a certain morality with serving papers that must be adhered to. If its not its ground to have the summons and in some cases the entire case thrown out. You can make a motion to quash a summons or subpoena. But technically this doesn't apply because at this point since its simply a demand letter....the O.P would have to wait until an actual subpoena arrives for court or other means of getting him into court come into play, i.e. the obscure newspaper, serving his parents and so on and so forth.

    When you reach the level of serving someone papers to appear in court there is a definite venue that must be followed and deviation from that will not look favorably on your court case.

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    Do your parents really want their neighbors to see a police car showing up delivering a summons that could become a story in the local papers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hondoharry View Post
    Do your parents really want their neighbors to see a police car showing up delivering a summons that could become a story in the local papers?
    That's not how it happens. Very rarely is it the actual police that will roll up code 3 and all....LOL.

    Most times its retired police officers, process servers, private investigators or someone else hired to do it that is not affiliated with the court case since you yourself cannot serve the papers.

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    You guys with letters may want to talk with this attorney. I might be reading too much into this, but it looks like a win!

    Wuf Magi answer to complaint.pdf
    Wuf Magi Dismissal.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by alex70olds View Post
    You guys with letters may want to talk with this attorney. I might be reading too much into this, but it looks like a win!

    Wuf Magi answer to complaint.pdf
    Wuf Magi Dismissal.pdf
    Yup kind of hard to prove satellite theft when the defendant is denying that he ever even had a satellite receiver.

    I been saying this for months now that its a far cry from some Paypal records alleging purchases of codes to actual satellite theft. I'm just glad that somebody has found a half @ssed decent attorney that argued that point and won it it looks like and got the case dismissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sodusme View Post
    Yup kind of hard to prove satellite theft when the defendant is denying that he ever even had a satellite receiver.

    I been saying this for months now that its a far cry from some Paypal records alleging purchases of codes to actual satellite theft. I'm just glad that somebody has found a half @ssed decent attorney that argued that point and won it it looks like and got the case dismissed.
    I think the kicker is no server logs IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alex70olds View Post
    You guys with letters may want to talk with this attorney. I might be reading too much into this, but it looks like a win!

    Wuf Magi answer to complaint.pdf
    Wuf Magi Dismissal.pdf
    Good.

    I'm glad they followed my advice, lol. No proof of a receiver, no judgment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alex70olds View Post
    I think the kicker is no server logs IMHO.
    YEP, I was saying that when all this crap started, so lets hope it will stop now.

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    It says they voluntarily dismissed the case Because it was SETTLED .

    It does not say what that settlement was .

    Could have been Nagra dropping the civil suit or it could have been an amount was paid .

    Someone with a vested interest should call Magi's attorney to see if the " no reciever " defense worked .

    NagraStar LLC (collectively, “DISH Network”), and Defendant Kailas Magi respectfully notify the Court of the parties’ settlement of this action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sodusme View Post
    That's not how it happens. Very rarely is it the actual police that will roll up code 3 and all....LOL.

    Most times its retired police officers, process servers, private investigators or someone else hired to do it that is not affiliated with the court case since you yourself cannot serve the papers.
    Watch out for that Pineapple Express process server.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamburger View Post
    It says they voluntarily dismissed the case Because it was SETTLED .

    It does not say what that settlement was .

    Could have been Nagra dropping the civil suit or it could have been an amount was paid .

    Someone with a vested interest should call Magi's attorney to see if the " no reciever " defense worked .

    NagraStar LLC (collectively, “DISH Network”), and Defendant Kailas Magi respectfully notify the Court of the parties’ settlement of this action.

    With this there was no decision in law. Could mean it was good for this defendant or they just decided to settle.



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    Say's they settled, I'm sure it cost Magi more than $3500.00 with Attorney fee's and court cost's. Don't see how it's a win of any kind. Still doesn't help folks who received letter's. Bottom line they're going after end user's $ trail easy to follow and win win for them . Only cost $400 to file against you in Civil Court so yes they will file. Only answer if caught is to pay up. It's all about the $$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamburger View Post
    It says they voluntarily dismissed the case Because it was SETTLED .

    It does not say what that settlement was .

    Could have been Nagra dropping the civil suit or it could have been an amount was paid .

    Someone with a vested interest should call Magi's attorney to see if the " no reciever " defense worked .

    NagraStar LLC (collectively, “DISH Network”), and Defendant Kailas Magi respectfully notify the Court of the parties’ settlement of this action.
    04/10/2013 join date.....welcome Oh wise one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeldf View Post
    04/10/2013 join date.....welcome Oh wise one!
    That is interesting.

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