Letter now Court case

[sodusme]

Damn I send somebody a pm and it's advertised in the shoutbox. Nothing like saying HEY Dick I'm here

I think that is only displayed to you and the one you PM'ed. Nobody else sees that. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that is how it works.

[rainman2]

I sure do hope that's how it works.

[Gamer]

I sure do hope that's how it works.

Sod is correct as pm message in the shoutbox is only for you and person you pmed.You can disable notifications in shoutbox settings options.

[alex70olds]

Sod is correct as pm message in the shoutbox is only for you and person you pmed.You can disable notifications in shoutbox settings options.

LOL thats true. The problem I have, is with the PM function of the shoutbox itself. I always manage to click off the PM mode, and respond for all to see lmao.

[Anubis]

LOL thats true. The problem I have, is with the PM function of the shoutbox itself. I always manage to click off the PM mode, and respond for all to see lmao.

You just got to play with buttons don't you! Boy old habits are hard to break.

[kyzursozay]

If you ride it out expect a $10,000 sanction from the courts.. It all depends on how confortable you are with having that over your head for a long time..

This is a great site, I myself appreciate all the input presented here that will hopefully help people like me that is in this stressfull time. I admit I am kind of nervous like a lot of other folks here that received that hate me mail (being human is not easy).
Hopefully I can put this information together and sort it out. So far I am better off not doing anything and probably just ride it out.
Hope I'm right.

What I failed to mention in my post 530 is I NEVER filed for bankruptcy, never denied denied owing the money, the bank just wouldn't accept my payback schedule of $5 a month. lol When I appeared in front of judge on the 2nd (this one not taped to door) hand-delivered summons, explaining situation, he instructed me to confer with bank atty. in hallway, & comeback in courtroom when done. The atty actually was ok , wouldn't take the $20 I had in my wallet, suggested the sheriff inventory any belongings not on homestead exemption deed. That way the bank could charge-off what was owed as non-collectible & that would be the end of it. He also suggested the "bad service" excuse if the judge asked why I didn't respond to first court summons taped to apt. door. Indeed upon returning to court when the judge asked " Why hadn't I answered the original summons" I feigned ignorance, not knowing anything about it. He then asked sheriff's deputy who checked his log & said it was taped to the top left of apt. front door. With that he stated I wouldn't be held in contempt & an additional fine added to sum already owed. That was 35 years ago for the paltry sum of $1200 for one credit card. lol Did it ruin my credit rating ............ LOL .............. I wish lol .........my only regret none. Would a $10K judgement hanging over my head be of concern? Not likely as obtaining a judgement & collection are TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT MATTERS!!!!

[ftaalltheway]

This is a court case against a end user by the name of KAILAS MAGI. Not wuffman.
It clearly states that the said defendant purchased codes from wuff in page one.
Guess Nagra are going after those that are ignoring their letters after all.

well, NAG has NOTHING to do with these cases, right??

dont NAG have their own attorneys? and DN theirs?

these letters are for iks connections why would NAG be involved??

if they had their cards compromised BUT to say they get involved with iks codes as
though the security of their cards has been comprinised is well, HOGWASH

this has been a misnomer for much too long and posts by so called JJee
and others (impostors)
over at the defunct site was very funny cuz THAT is where it all started

all to do with "scare mongering" ,,,nothing more nothing less

fact is, they could care less about IKS connectivity THATS DN's PROB

funny this thread has been though and for those who doubt me,,,

get a hold of NAG and find out for urselves what lawyers represent whom,,,

even IF their (dn's) "extortion" letters leads one to believe otherwise

they are 2 seperate entities

IF NAG was involved? youd see many more
of these tactics BUT with MUCH more SEVERE consequences/penalties

[sodusme]

well, NAG has NOTHING to do with these cases, right??

dont NAG have their own attorneys? and DN theirs?

these letters are for iks connections why would NAG be involved??

if they had their cards compromised BUT to say they get involved with iks codes as
though the security of their cards has been comprinised is well, HOGWASH

this has been a misnomer for much too long and posts by so called JJee
and others (impostors)
over at the defunct site was very funny cuz THAT is where it all started

all to do with "scare mongering" ,,,nothing more nothing less

fact is, they could care less about IKS connectivity THATS DN's PROB

funny this thread has been though and for those who doubt me,,,

get a hold of NAG and find out for urselves what lawyers represent whom,,,

even IF their (dn's) "extortion" letters leads one to believe otherwise

they are 2 seperate entities

IF NAG was involved? youd see many more
of these tactics BUT with MUCH more SEVERE consequences/penalties

Sorry but you are absolutely wrong....

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/texas/txsdce/4:2013cv01227/1075979/

Plaintiffs: DISH Network L.L.C., EchoStar Technologies L.L.C. and NagraStar LLC

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/mississippi/mssdce/1:2013cv00020/81009/

Plaintiffs: DISH Network L.L.C. , EchoStar Technologies L.L.C. and NagraStar LLC

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/caedce/1:2013cv00107/249347/

Plaintiffs: EchoStar Technologies L.L.C. , NagraStar LLC and Dish Network L.L.C.

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/florida/flmdce/2:2013cv00043/280083/

Plaintiffs: Dish Network L.L.C. , Echostar Technologies L.L.C. and Nagrastar LLC

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/kentucky/kyedce/2:2013cv00012/71690/

Plaintiffs: Dish Network L.L.C. , Echostar Technologies L.L.C. and Nagrastar LLC

Please get your facts straight before accusing others of 'fear mongering'. Would you also like to tell the masses how safe IKS is now too? I'd be glad to go head to head against you with why its not.

[sami1977]

ok after reading all that, if I decide to settle what's the prove they wont come after me again. Before paying the 3500$ could they send me a letter mention that they won’t pursuit me if future. did anybody negotiate before settling. Did anybody paid and get confirmation about it? Did anybody went to court and win the case?

[alex70olds]

ok after reading all that, if I decide to settle what's the prove they wont come after me again. Before paying the 3500$ could they send me a letter mention that they won’t pursuit me if future. did anybody negotiate before settling. Did anybody paid and get confirmation about it? Did anybody went to court and win the case?

Where you a member of ABADSS? Here you might want to check this thread out.

http://www.satfix.net/showthread.php...DN-3500-demand

[sodusme]

I would think just as they request in writing that you won't be a 'bad boy' again....you could request the same? I don't see why not? Of course they may not agree to it but I don't see why you couldn't draft up something that they could not pursue you further regarding the same matter.

[Grave Digger]

ok after reading all that, if I decide to settle what's the prove they wont come after me again.

this is why i suggest getting a lawyer regardless,

let a lawyer settle this for you, even if you are paying the settlement fee, you need a lawyer to get a legal document written for you in return for your settlement fee that states you can no longer be sued for this in the future,

[sodusme]

I was thinking along the lines of double jeopardy but that only applies in criminal cases. So the term you are after is: res judicata which loosely translated means 'already adjudicated' but I don't know how it applies to matters of the same wrong doing or matters of accusation alleging different wrong doing. You'll need an attorney to sort that out but that is the term you are looking for.

[sami1977]

Question for the people who get the second letter to pay 5000$ what happened next after 30 day ? Did get letter for 7500$ or court letter or what

[alex70olds]

Question for the people who get the second letter to pay 5000$ what happened next after 30 day ? Did get letter for 7500$ or court letter or what

It is an interesting question. Of all the non-DA letters that have gone out, only 11 have made it to court in the US.