DN $3500 demand

**Hannibalector** · 08-03-2013, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by Gunsmoke2 - GS2

The provider has been able to get Anton Pillar orders in Canada and orders in the US on a regular basis based on them alleging the defendants will destroy evidence if hit with a regular lawsuit. There has been several past incidents of this happening that they cite in their application for an order. They even use online posts from potential defendants who say something about wiping/destroying evidence.

When they apply for this orders its without the defendants knowing. The courts grant seizure order at a time and location(s) unbeknown to the defendants. Defendants are probably always got off guard. Defendants don't prepare for an unexpected visit with a setup that would allow them to destroy things when the unexpected knock on the door happens usually at more than one location at the same time.

It might happen one day but end users should realize that they should not depend on their information being secured or destroyed in my opinion.

GS2

light switch to an electro magnet followed by a photocell ?

**Hannibalector** · 08-03-2013, 04:35 AM

Originally Posted by Gunsmoke2 - GS2

In reality I don't think its going to happen. End users should not rely on that to happen. Sat people don't even see it as criminal.

GS2

I think you need to pay attention to your site and the ramblings going on there before you venture out here

**Hannibalector** · 08-03-2013, 05:24 AM

the allegations of cookies left at this site and elsewhere along with the fact there was in fact a mod here as a re seller selling before and after this site went down only speaks to co operation, that fact alone should cause concern

lets not forget the pm's to who they thought was a reseller

Hanni waves to the sh*tshow

**sodusme** · 08-03-2013, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by Gunsmoke2 - GS2

In reality I don't think its going to happen. End users should not rely on that to happen. Sat people don't even see it as criminal.

GS2

Oh definitely and my posts on "proper security" are directed more towards those that are reselling. I absolutely do not want to lull the masses into a false sense of security here and to think that their friendly reseller is following 'ole Sods advice.

But if you are reselling for the love of God follow some of the advice in this thread and do yourself and your clients a favor, encrypt, encrypt and encrypt some more.

**Hannibalector** · 08-03-2013, 05:37 AM

if you can't trust wufman who can you trust ?

**Hannibalector** · 08-03-2013, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by sodusme

Oh definitely and my posts on "proper security" are directed more towards those that are reselling. I absolutely do not want to lull the masses into a false sense of security here and to think that their friendly reseller is following 'ole Sods advise.

But if you are reselling for the love of God follow some of the advice in this thread and do yourself and your clients a favor, encrypt, encrypt and encrypt some more.

jj doesnt get this far up this sites xxxxxxx without going all the way

**dishuser** · 08-03-2013, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by Hannibalector

jj doesnt get this far up this sites ass without going all the way

he didn't go up this site's xxxxxxx you twit
so stop your shat now with blaming this site

**Hannibalector** · 08-03-2013, 05:43 AM

the only sheep in this shi*show were the ones that were lead by those that lead them to the slaughter

**Hannibalector** · 08-03-2013, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by dishuser

he didn't go up this site's ass you twit
so stop your shat now with blaming this site

I think this site gave him mod status did they not ?

did you see the list of sites he was mod at ? most gone now

**dishuser** · 08-03-2013, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by Hannibalector

I think this site gave him mod status did they not ?

did you see the list of sites he was mod at ? most gone now

no they're not
you must be MU'd from them to think they're gone...lol
I read the doc but apparently you skimmed thru it

**Hannibalector** · 08-03-2013, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by dishuser

he didn't go up this site's ass you twit
so stop your shat now with blaming this site

you want everyone to believe he only got to 1st base DU, do you honestly think Thomas Dixon was allowed to proceed and give evidence or do you think JJ had his boys act on behalf of Mr Dixon ?

**Hannibalector** · 08-03-2013, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by dishuser

no they're not
you must be MU'd from them to think they're gone...lol
I read the doc but apparently you skimmed thru it

keep lying

**ChillyWilly** · 08-03-2013, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Hannibalector

jj doesnt get this far up this sites ass without going all the way

There is no evidence that happened. However imho it would be foolish to assume it hasn't happened. But what we are talking about is a mod or administrator, here or else where, being on the Dixon list, and then being flipped by DN.

That would really pose no additional risk to the casual end user. We have always known these sites are being monitored, so the biggest risk to an end user is his own posts.

However, there may be a risk to those involved with iks servers. IMHO any one who was "flipped" would be instructed to concentrate their efforts to identify these people. To that end, all it would take is an email addy that was assigned by an isp.........And it's no secret that there are gossip type emails circulating between staff at various sites, not to mention freebee boxes shipped to some. Of course the answers to this issue are obvious, stay anonymous and do NOT compromise others.........

**hotdog2** · 08-03-2013, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by sodusme

Oh definitely and my posts on "proper security" are directed more towards those that are reselling. I absolutely do not want to lull the masses into a false sense of security here and to think that their friendly reseller is following 'ole Sods advice.

But if you are reselling for the love of God follow some of the advice in this thread and do yourself and your clients a favor, encrypt, encrypt and encrypt some more.

http://xxx.truecrypt.org/

**jeldf** · 08-03-2013, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by ChillyWilly

There is no evidence that happened. However imho it would be foolish to assume it hasn't happened. But what we are talking about is a mod or administrator, here or else where, being on the Dixon list, and then being flipped by DN.

That would really pose no additional risk to the casual end user. We have always known these sites are being monitored, so the biggest risk to an end user is his own posts.

However, there may be a risk to those involved with iks servers. IMHO any one who was "flipped" would be instructed to concentrate their efforts to identify these people. To that end, all it would take is an email addy that was assigned by an isp.........And it's no secret that there are gossip type emails circulating between staff at various sites, not to mention freebee boxes shipped to some. Of course the answers to this issue are obvious, stay anonymous and do NOT compromise others.........

great advice but when someone has $$$ in their eyes, they epically fail!

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