DN $3500 demand

[Anubis]

Let's not ruin a good thread folks.

Keep it as a discussion and stop the bantering.

[sodusme]

sod, you seem to be missing the main point here.....

the sellers who are being busted are CO-OPERATING with the bust, they are not trying to run away, and they are not trying to hide anything, they are giving it up WILLINGLY....they are using the info as a bargaining tool to somewhat save themselves.....

therefore, i have said it a hundred times and i will say it once more.....

USING AN ENCRYPTION WOULDN'T MATTER!!!!!

So than why encrypt any of your records to begin with?

Lets say they didn't find ANY records on Wuf's computer? Don't you think that would probably have been a little more beneficial for his cause than him turning over all the records? If that is in fact what happened? In other words its not handed to them on a golden platter. Make them work for it.

Now how would they not find any records? Encryption, encryption and more encryption. They are not "hiding" anything because its a little hard to shut the barn door to contain a horse after the horse is out. So you are saying that Wuf had all this stuff sealed up and encrypted and only turned over the passwords after he realized that he was in trouble? Now that begs the question why turn it over at all? If it was encrypted to begin with than any dummy would leave it that way. The more evidence they have against you the worse it plays out for you. I've played the "We'll cut you a deal if you tell us yada, yada, yada" b.s. game with the cops and trust me its NO deal.

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

So than why encrypt any of your records to begin with?

Lets say they didn't find ANY records on Wuf's computer? Don't you think that would probably have been a little more beneficial for his cause than him turning over all the records? If that is in fact what happened? In other words its not handed to them on a golden platter. Make them work for it.

Now how would they not find any records? Encryption, encryption and more encryption. They are not "hiding" anything because its a little hard to shut the barn door to contain a horse after the horse is out. So you are saying that Wuf had all this stuff sealed up and encrypted and only turned over the passwords after he realized that he was in trouble? Now that begs the question why turn it over at all? If it was encrypted to begin with than any dummy would leave it that way. The more evidence they have against you the worse it plays out for you. I've played the "We'll cut you a deal if you tell us yada, yada, yada" b.s. game with the cops and trust me its NO deal.

In theory your suggestions make sense but in reality when someone is poped they are probably more tuned in making less hard for themselves and thus not tuned into making hard for them.


They are looking at possibly losing assets, maybe their homes and than the family kicks in. I suspect if your hit, have a wife and family they would be telling you to do anything you can to save whatever you can and cooperate. The person says well than I will be known as a Rat and the wife says I don't give a sh*t, cooperate and walk away from the sites, do you care about me and the children or what they call you. Its a hard situation to find yourself in.


Now some do fight it but usually end up turning things over later on after they refused or even went to jail for disobeying orders. Some fight it to the point they declare bankruptcy to not have a judgment enforced but than the opposition goes to court on that and usually wins with the court dismissing the bankruptcy.



GS2

[goadus]

With all this stuff going on with recovering posts to use against end users, can someone have all their posts removed from forums plus even user names, e-mail addys and anything else that points to someone posting info that could be used against someone.

[dishuser]

With all this stuff going on with recovering posts to use against end users, can someone have all their posts removed from forums plus even user names, e-mail addys and anything else that points to someone posting info that could be used against someone.

they already did that
why did you rejoin?

[Hannibalector]

Some how another good thread gone a-muck by the ncn gang that lives by hypocritical to rules ..

instead of a discussion..turns into a defense ..

I think you got your few minutes of fame !!

I've called and or emailed an attorney not once but twice to seek legal advice for those with a demand letter to see if a reverse demand letter to cancel is possible and I'm waiting to hear back, back the hell off

what the hell have you done other then post against NCN

[dishuser]

I've called and or emailed an attorney not once but twice to seek legal advice for those with a demand letter to see if a reverse demand letter to cancel is possible and I'm waiting to hear back, back the hell off

what the hell have you done other then post against NCN

sure you did...lol
you would've heard back by now

[1boxman]

I've called and or emailed an attorney not once but twice to seek legal advice for those with a demand letter to see if a reverse demand letter to cancel is possible and I'm waiting to hear back, back the hell off

what the hell have you done other then post against NCN

One your not there ..so stop promoting it ..

and I call bullsh&t on calling or email..which is it .

Every letter has its own situation with each person ..there for a lawyer info would be useless. Other than basic info on the law .

So the only lawyer you would have called ..My guess is for there team .

You have done enough bashing of sites ..case rests.

[Momotumbo]

There is only One Solution as I have Said Many Times on Many different Sites "Don't Buy From Resellers or pay with Paypal!"
The Chinese forms of payment seem the most secure if one is going to do it!!!
The Safest Way is to Subscribe to the Providers! JMHO

[goadus]

they already did that
why did you rejoin?

I didn't know they did it so I actually did not rejoin, just posted a question. See Ya! User name is still at the top though.

[goadus]

they already did that
why did you rejoin?

I rejoined because if they have the posts that were made the there's no point in starting over cause they'll have those too. So whats the point of starting over.

[Hannibalector]

sure you did...lol
you would've heard back by now

One your not there ..so stop promoting it ..

and I call bullsh&t on calling or email..which is it .

Every letter has its own situation with each person ..there for a lawyer info would be useless. Other than basic info on the law .

So the only lawyer you would have called ..My guess is for there team .

You have done enough bashing of sites ..case rests.

seems neither one of you challenged the issue when I told fifties I would email Faudlin Pierre the attorney for Fredrick Dames with regards to his case and the decision without prejudice.

[1boxman]

Snore...!!!!!!

[Anubis]

seems neither one of you challenged the issue when I told fifties I would email Faudlin Pierre the attorney for Fredrick Dames with regards to his case and the decision without prejudice.

Seems you have said this a couple times but no one has seen any results. Actions speak louder than words. Just saying.

[1boxman]

Well I call B.S ..Now whether hanni did or not ..doesn't really matter ...as I do not know any lawyer to give out any kind of consultation on a legal matter of such (demand) . Without charges and or in fact the real defendant in regards to this demand letter .Would not happen .

So if in fact there were any kinda contact it would be very general to the case . And after the email ..(it would say ..have them seek legal advice or them call me )

If anyone has consulted with a lawyer ..... would know this .
And even the first consultation is some what general until you retain them ... they want your money ..lol