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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffg1 View Post
    yes that what i have been saying, BOTH are looping, i bought new 3 ghz quad shielded rg6, made new connectors over the weekend, doubt 2 different sets of F connectors and still looping.
    it's very simple to test if it's the cable or the LNB

    power everything off
    leave the RG6 connected to the receiver, go out and disconnect the cable from the LNB
    go back and power up the receiver, if it still boot loops then it's your cable if it doesn't then it's the LNB

    you should have paid attention to auggies very first post in this thread and you would have found your problem within minutes ...

    EDIT : power everything off should be replaced with unplug your receiver ....
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    I will try your test, however i did follow auggies very first post, i took the DL apart, even switched dl200 to a known working module.
    *edit* even swapped LNBs, from 2 to 1 quad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffg1 View Post
    I will try your test, however i did follow auggies very first post, i took the DL apart, even switched dl200 to a known working module.
    *edit* even swapped LNBs, from 2 to 1 quad.
    auggie told you to hook directly to 91 without the module installed ...

    he didn't say swap modules and add a quad lnb into the mix

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    just for clarity

    if you had followed auggies advice and came back and said it didn't work hooked direcly to 91, you would have then been told to try the other lnb, if that still didn't work you would have been told to check the cable by itself ...

    like NBS told you right at the start... it's a process of elimination, auggie was giving you the starting point and would have helped you through the process of elimination, but he can't do that if you don't do what he tells and then reply back with the results

    it's still possible that it's a power supply issue but I find that highly unlikely when 2 different receivers and power supplies were doing the same thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by really_troubled View Post
    just for clarity

    if you had followed auggies advice and came back and said it didn't work hooked direcly to 91, you would have then been told to try the other lnb, if that still didn't work you would have been told to check the cable by itself ...

    like NBS told you right at the start... it's a process of elimination, auggie was giving you the starting point and would have helped you through the process of elimination, but he can't do that if you don't do what he tells and then reply back with the results

    it's still possible that it's a power supply issue but I find that highly unlikely when 2 different receivers and power supplies were doing the same thing
    The "diagnostic routine" doesn't come easily to all bro.This really is a simple diagnosis.

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    Some times the "KISS Method" is the way too Go when you are trying to fix something...........lol lol

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    in fairness to jeffg1, swapping out the lnb and cable usually works if the cable and lnb are good,
    however, in this case it just added to his frustration ...

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    >Eliminate the RG6< Disconnect both ends and use a Fluke meter to see if there is a short between the threaded part of the F-Connector (Ground) and at center copper core. It should be open. If it is open then short out the other end and check again for >0< ohm's. Remove you self induced short & if both check ok the cable is good. The power supply (the one that plugs into the wall) can cause many different problems including constant reboot if supplied CURRENT is not enough. Voltage will check OK but current won't. After eliminating the RG6 you can hook up an LNB. It does not have to be mounted in the dish, just to the other end of the RG6 and see if you still have reboot problem. If it don't then hookup to the dish. If it starts rebooting then your problem is in the dish or power supply.

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    I agree that a multi meter (or a sat meter that has the capability) is the best option when checking cables

    but there is no doubt that the receiver will let you know if the cable is shorted ... obviously not the best option because it will stress the power supply but I doubt connecting it 1 more time will hurt it at this point

    it's worth pointing out that this appears to be a new install, a short in the coax is actually quite rare and IMO is always associated with human error

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    Quote Originally Posted by really_troubled View Post
    just for clarity

    if you had followed auggies advice and came back and said it didn't work hooked direcly to 91, you would have then been told to try the other lnb, if that still didn't work you would have been told to check the cable by itself ...

    like NBS told you right at the start... it's a process of elimination, auggie was giving you the starting point and would have helped you through the process of elimination, but he can't do that if you don't do what he tells and then reply back with the results

    it's still possible that it's a power supply issue but I find that highly unlikely when 2 different receivers and power supplies were doing the same thing
    As i did report back, that i tried each LNB individually, on both sats 91 and 82. Why would i replace skip straight to swapping out the DL 200 module if i didn't test it with and without it? I have been around alot longer then you may think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auggie View Post
    Some times the "KISS Method" is the way too Go when you are trying to fix something...........lol lol
    It may seem simple to you, however, as i have noted only thing that i haven't changed is the actual dish on the roof. so even an RG6 swap didn't stop it from boot looping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by staticrider View Post
    >Eliminate the RG6< Disconnect both ends and use a Fluke meter to see if there is a short between the threaded part of the F-Connector (Ground) and at center copper core. It should be open. If it is open then short out the other end and check again for >0< ohm's. Remove you self induced short & if both check ok the cable is good. The power supply (the one that plugs into the wall) can cause many different problems including constant reboot if supplied CURRENT is not enough. Voltage will check OK but current won't. After eliminating the RG6 you can hook up an LNB. It does not have to be mounted in the dish, just to the other end of the RG6 and see if you still have reboot problem. If it don't then hookup to the dish. If it starts rebooting then your problem is in the dish or power supply.
    It does not boot loop when there is no rg6 connected...
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    Quote Originally Posted by staticrider View Post
    >Eliminate the RG6< Disconnect both ends and use a Fluke meter to see if there is a short between the threaded part of the F-Connector (Ground) and at center copper core. It should be open. If it is open then short out the other end and check again for >0< ohm's. Remove you self induced short & if both check ok the cable is good. The power supply (the one that plugs into the wall) can cause many different problems including constant reboot if supplied CURRENT is not enough. Voltage will check OK but current won't. After eliminating the RG6 you can hook up an LNB. It does not have to be mounted in the dish, just to the other end of the RG6 and see if you still have reboot problem. If it don't then hookup to the dish. If it starts rebooting then your problem is in the dish or power supply.
    I will try a direct connection to an LNB that isn't mounted, thanks for that idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffg1 View Post
    As i did report back, that i tried each LNB individually, on both sats 91 and 82. Why would i replace skip straight to swapping out the DL 200 module if i didn't test it with and without it? I have been around alot longer then you may think.
    these posts are 3 weeks apart and nothing in between... all you said was you were going to bypass the switches ... I see no confirmation that you did
    Quote Originally Posted by jeffg1 View Post
    thank you all, i am going to try to bypass the switches, i did already try different power cables with the same results.
    Quote Originally Posted by jeffg1 View Post
    hey guys just wanted to update as i got around to it now, so what i have done is changed the from the double lnf and sw 21s to a dp quad, and replaced the rg6 cable. still getting a ton of boot loops on the dream link. the satatlie is being installed on a shingle/wood roof. and i have not yet grounded the satalite dish, but will the grounding improve this?

    thanks
    anyway, since you've been around as long as you have, then maybe you can explain why it's not working

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    just like you said you were going to try what I suggested

    nowhere did you reply with the results ... did you connect the rg6 without anything connected to it or not ?
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