IPGUYS being sued

[johnnylarue]

Bingo!You would be surprised what you find you wouldnt even need to sub.
I dont think they needed any technical means someone on their server
fell asleep and let their dish info screen onto a channel selection for all to see
at that time is when it will show up on url grabbers you dont need to be on that specific
channel either. Think about it how did that info get to dish were they being watched and why or did someone
squeal?I am surprised that they werent using hacked accounts.

I've seen that on a few streams. The stream go down and the ird/card number is there for all to see. Easy way to catch them! lol

[runamok]

I have seen a message run across screen from direct saying*you are streaming this channel*

[jedi]

Dish can see the receiver and card information anytime they want - they can embed it into the stream - we can't see it but they can - it is called televes watermarking.

If you are a seeder - all they have to do is buy a subscription to an IPTV service and watch any channel they want - they can see the receiver ID number that is the source for that channel.
There is no way to remove that watermark.

Here is a copy and paste from Televes webpage:

Dish Network™, the US Satellite Operator, approves Televes Watermarking on its suite of Clear QAM Encoders
20/05/2014
Televes has received approval from Dish Network (http://www.dish.com/) -one of the main TV Satellite Operators in the USA, with 14 million subscribers- for its Watermarking solution on its suite of Clear QAM Encoders. Watermarking is the process of hiding digital information to verify the authenticity or integrity of the signal or to show the identity of its owners. Televes Clear QAM Encoders offers invisible watermarking as an option for forensic video analysis in an effort to prevent piracy.

Juan Molezun, director of the International Division, said: “We are very pleased to have received approval of our watermarking solution from Dish Network. This is the next step in expanding the market for our professional quality encoders.”

All versions of Clear QAM Encoders provide Dolby Digital from analogue or digital inputs, closed captioning, EAS support, and include ASI input and output for easy EAS signal management, all with the innovative Televes integrated RF combiner. They encode both MPEG-2 and H.264 and offer the full remote control functionality that any T.0X headend module supports. For these reasons, they are ideal for any video distribution integration. “Be it for distributing full HD video cost effectively in the home or a commercial HD installation, our Clear QAM Encoder output distributed over standard coax, on any modern TV, provides top quality”, affirmed Molezun.

What is watermarking?

A digital watermark is a marker embedded in the image data. It is typically used to identify ownership of the copyright of such signal. “Watermarking” is the process of hiding digital information to verify the authenticity or integrity of the signal or to show the identity of its owners. It is prominently used for tracing copyright infringements and for banknote authentication. Like traditional watermarks, digital watermarks are only perceptible under certain conditions, for example using some algorithm (watermarking detection), and imperceptible anytime else for the naked eye. Since a digital copy of data is the same as the original, digital watermarking is a passive protection tool. It just marks data, but does not degrade it nor controls access to the data.

In this case, Televes encoders hide the serial number of the Dish Network set-top box making it invisible to the human eye, but unalterable to any recoding or retransmitting from other video devices such as a camcorder. In case unauthorized publications, the Televes encoder recuperates the STB serial number to identify the source of the coded image.

About Televes

Televes is a leading global company focusing on the design, development and manufacture of systems and products associated with telecommunications services for the home, and specialising in reception and broadcast of television signals. The company’s headquarters are located in Santiago de Compostela (Spain), where the company was founded in 1958. At present, Televes is the head of a Corporation formed by 20 subsidiaries (technological, industrial or commercial), near 700 employees and 53 invention patents.

Televes has nine international subsidiaries in Portugal, France, UK, Italy, Germany, Poland, UAE, China and USA, and distributes its products to more than one hundred countries on five continents through an extensive network of distributors. Throughout its 55 years of experience, Televes has launched more than 1,500 different products, an achievement that is understood from the company´s real passion for manufacturing. The company produces at its own facilities to ensure the highest quality. To achieve this, it has been a pioneer in the implementation of automated robotised lines and has its own testing and quality control laboratories. Therefore, the brand’s products proudly display the "European Technology Made in Europe" stamp.

About Dish Networks

Dish Network is an American direct-broadcast satellite service provider. The company provides satellite television, satellite internet, audio programming, and interactive television services to commercial and residential customers in the United States. As of November 2013, the company provided services to just over fourteen million subscribers and has approximately 34,000 employees (with more than 25,000 employees located within the United States). The company is headquartered in Meridian, Colorado.

[jedi]

Bingo!You would be surprised what you find you wouldnt even need to sub.
I dont think they needed any technical means someone on their server
fell asleep and let their dish info screen onto a channel selection for all to see
at that time is when it will show up on url grabbers you dont need to be on that specific
channel either. Think about it how did that info get to dish were they being watched and why or did someone
squeal?I am surprised that they werent using hacked accounts.

When you were using URL Helper - what was showing up for you to see?
How did you identify it as a Dishnet stream?

If the IPTV service is using Dishnet as a source and then encoding and streaming a channel - I would think the URL info for the IPTV service would show up - how are you seeing Dishnet as the source?

[Highwayman]

When you were using URL Helper - what was showing up for you to see?
How did you identify it as a Dishnet stream?

I always run url helper/wireshark when checking out iptv services i dont remember which channel i was checking out think it was espn when you start a stream url helper captures the IPTV services link first then you may depending on the stream you may get additional info depending if your watching regular tv or movies and tv shows you may get the suppliers links if there is one which if you sub and it expires you still have the suppliers links they will still work without usernames and passwords thats another story.

For the dishnet xml to come up the iptv operator could have done a number of things
while restreaming you have to watch everything while you restream!

It shows up as a xml file, copy and paste the xml to your browser and it shows the dishnet info screen
model receiver smartcard and location id its all there.

Now you need to check this by running another stream after espn if nothing you go back to espn if it shows
a mistake was made on the espn channel by the operator.

[streame]

Hard to believe one of the best iptv services shutting down.

[maird57]

I guess everything you read on the internet is true

[dishuser]

I guess everything you read on the internet is true

so you're saying this is bogus?

[herk]

I guess everything you read on the internet is true

I know Romie had a knock on his door and it wasnt the avon lady

[jedi]

I guess everything you read on the internet is true

It's true and he's been on NagraStar's most wanted list for years - dating back to the start of IKS. None of the resellers have been able to collect that bounty on his head yet - and I'm not sure if they ever will.

[surfinisfun]

It's true and he's been on NagraStar's most wanted list for years - dating back to the start of IKS. None of the resellers have been able to collect that bounty on his head yet - and I'm not sure if they ever will.

You lost me here....who is "he"? Romie?

Don't recall him doing IKS but then again, I'm getting up there.

[dishuser]

You lost me here....who is "he"? Romie?

Don't recall him doing IKS but then again, I'm getting up there.

key words
modded receivers

[jedi]

key words
modded receivers

Yep you got it - also ran one of the biggest and best IKS servers around for many years

[jedi]

You lost me here....who is "he"? Romie?

Don't recall him doing IKS but then again, I'm getting up there.

No - Romie was just a Super Reseller - I'm talking about the head honcho of IPGuys

[surfinisfun]

No - Romie was just a Super Reseller - I'm talking about the head honcho of IPGuys

K, thanks. After a little more reading in this there.....I'm up to speed.